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re: Jimbo Gets His RF QB 52 Pass Attempts - CNS TF QB Gets 11 Attempts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:47 am to PowHound
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:47 am to PowHound
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What would you do if you were having to prepare this team for SEC play ?
Well, I'd have done what we did against USC if I truly wasn't sure who to make the starter. At this point I'd make a decision and roll.
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Should an emphasis be placed on getting one of the QB's more repetitions before SEC play ? Or will you be satisfied with another split of repetitions ?
I'd prefer we pick one and go, yes.
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:50 am to PowHound
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Should an emphasis be placed on getting one of the QB's more repetitions before SEC play ? Or will you be satisfied with another split of repetitions ?
needs to be a split because both QBs are freshman and they both need to get reps. if one goes down, saban wants to use the other freshman, so they both need reps.
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There is a saying, "if you have two QB's, you dont have one."
here's another saying, "shut the frick up"
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:57 am to SECSolomonGrundy
Everyone is so fricking emo.
Can men not have a logical discussion about strategy without people getting their fricking feelings hurt?
This is a legit topic of discussion considering that QB indecision likely played a big part in our one loss last year, and it looks like we'll be heading into the Ole Miss game with the QB position still undecided.
Can men not have a logical discussion about strategy without people getting their fricking feelings hurt?
This is a legit topic of discussion considering that QB indecision likely played a big part in our one loss last year, and it looks like we'll be heading into the Ole Miss game with the QB position still undecided.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:59 am to uofarolltide
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it looks like we'll be heading into the Ole Miss game with the QB position still undecided.
Do you honestly think that is the case?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:05 pm to uofarolltide
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PowHound don't fret, you're absolutely right, and idk why Alabama fans on forums start crying everytime you want to question lord Saban.
For starters, if you saw his uniform thread, you would understand why some of us are skeptical.
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Look for indecision at QB to hurt us against Ole Miss again.
First of all, there won't be any indecision. Second, there was no indecision last year. Coker had won the job and proceeded to cough it up like Dalvin Cook coughed up that ball last night...probably in practice the week of the game.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:13 pm to BamaGradinTn
Serious question...what makes you think there was any "indecision" last year, just because Coker didn't start? Coker started both of the first two games and had 47 PAs vs. Bateman's 25...so I'm curious why you think Saban was "undecided" going into the Ole Miss game, as opposed to Coker just losing his job in practice.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:23 pm to TideSaint
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quote: it looks like we'll be heading into the Ole Miss game with the QB position still undecided. Do you honestly think that is the case?
I think both QBs will split time against WKU.
So technically, the QB competition will still be open, and I'm sure that's what CNS will say to the press.
I HOPE, that Jalen Hurts starts against Ole Miss, and they stick with him until the end.
But, who knows what will happen?
To the point of the OP though, they must still be undecided, otherwise, why not give Jalen all of the first team reps in practice, and give hime 80-90% of the snaps in the game?
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:27 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Serious question...what makes you think there was any "indecision" last year, just because Coker didn't start? Coker started both of the first two games and had 47 PAs vs. Bateman's 25...so I'm curious why you think Saban was "undecided" going into the Ole Miss game, as opposed to Coker just losing his job in practice.
Well it's the same thing. If Coker lost his job in practice, apparently there had been no definitive decision made about the QB position. Coker didn't outright win the job until the Ole Miss game, so you could say the coaches were still undecided.
Also, Saban doesn't split reps when he has decided on a QB. How many snaps did Bateman get after the Ole Miss game?
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:33 pm to uofarolltide
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If Coker lost his job in practice, apparently there had been no definitive decision made about the QB position.
How can you lose a job if a decision hadn't been made to give it to you?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:40 pm to uofarolltide
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Also, Saban doesn't split reps when he has decided on a QB.
Bateman didn't see the field against Wisconsin until the end of the 3rd quarter when we had a 28-10 lead. He didn't see the field against MTSU until the second half with a 23-3 lead. Although Bateman got some reps, we clearly had a true starter.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:43 pm to uofarolltide
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Can men not have a logical discussion about strategy without people getting their fricking feelings hurt?
It sounds like you are getting your feelings hurt because people are calling out your buddy for stating a stupid opinion.
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QB indecision likely played a big part in our one loss last year,
The game was 3-3(might have been 10-3) when Cooper Bateman left the game last year. So how exactly did him starting that game lose the game for us?
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:49 pm to BamaGradinTn
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Bateman didn't see the field against Wisconsin until the end of the 3rd quarter when we had a 28-10 lead. He didn't see the field against MTSU until the second half with a 23-3 lead. Although Bateman got some reps, we clearly had a true starter.
I'm missing your point. Is your point that Coker was always the starter, but lost his job before Ole Miss?
Saban never named Coker the starter. He said the competition was ongoing through two games in which both QBs saw significant action. Then in the third game, he actually started Bateman, which we can assume meant that the competition swung in Bateman's favor.
After the Ole Miss game, the QB race was over, and Bateman hardly ever saw the field after that.
Saban is saying the same thing this year, and his actions are the same. Hurts will split time with Barnett for the first two games, and a real decision won't be made until after Ole Miss. We just have to hope that they start the right QB vs. Ole Miss this year
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:53 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The game was 3-3(might have been 10-3) when Cooper Bateman left the game last year. So how exactly did him starting that game lose the game for us?
If you're really this dense, go back and watch the game.
If for no other reason than Coker turned out to be the guy, so by starting the other guy in our first SEC game, they made a mistake.
Bateman played almost the entire first half, and led our offense to just 3 points, and threw a costly INT.
Coker came in cold, led our team to score 30-odd points, and gave us multiple chances to win a total frickery of a game. He proved himself to be a leader of our team.
The decision to bench Coker in the first half was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from Saban. period.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:56 pm to PowHound
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PowHound
If you love Jimbo so much, then go be an FSU fan.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 12:58 pm to uofarolltide
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If you're really this dense, go back and watch the game.
I've seen the game.
The game was tied when Cooper went out.
We lost the game, and it came very close to getting out of control multiple times when Coker was in. Yet you are clearly using the factor the Bateman started as a large reason as to why we lost that game. That makes no sense to me. Please explain this to me.
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If for no other reason than Coker turned out to be the guy,
That's fine, but what does that have to do with the fact that you are trying to place a large portion of the loss on the fact that Bateman started.
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Bateman played almost the entire first half, and led our offense to just 3 points, and threw a costly INT. Coker came in cold, led our team to score 30-odd points, and gave us multiple chances to win a total frickery of a game. He proved himself to be a leader of our team. The decision to bench Coker in the first half was one of the worst decisions I've ever seen from Saban. period.
You have no idea what would have happened if Coker had have started that game. No clue. The only thing we have to go are facts. So how can you say that it would have even mattered if Coker started the game?
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:24 pm to uofarolltide
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If you're really this dense, go back and watch the game
Cant grown men just have a discussion
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:48 pm to uofarolltide
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Bateman played almost the entire first half
Cooper Bateman played exactly 4 series, taking his last snap with 10:00 left in the second quarter and the score tied at 3
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and threw a costly INT.
Coker threw two. One at the Alabama 31 that led directly to an Ole Miss touchdown and the second that effectively ended the game when Ole Miss was reeling.
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If you're really this dense, go back and watch the game.
If you think what you posted is a factual recollection of that game, you're the one that needs to go back and watch it because everything you said above is wrong and disproven by simply reviewing the play by play.
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If for no other reason than Coker turned out to be the guy, so by starting the other guy in our first SEC game, they made a mistake.
If they had known he was the guy, I'm reasonably certain they would have started him. IMO, benching him lit the fire that caused him to become 'the guy'. Neither you nor I know if that would have happened had he started the game.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:02 pm to PowHound
I'm not sure why the comparison of Jimbo to Saban and style and bringing up attempts with bolded type. We didn't have to come back from a multiple td deficit and also had the opportunity to give a new o-line the chance to come together as well as new rb's.
I would always rather have a more balanced attack and not have to lean on freshmen qb's to win their first game.
I would always rather have a more balanced attack and not have to lean on freshmen qb's to win their first game.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:04 pm to JustGetItRight
Literally only a couple of posters were able to understand the thread topic, and then bring anything of substance to the conversation.
The rest was a train wreck.
I personally feel that it could be a really interesting discussion. I understand the argument both ways. When a point can be argued both ways, and sound logical either way I think that is an opportunity for a good discussion, but too many folks actually really do get their feelings hurt.
That uniform thread for instance. My god. I could not have imagined that people would get that upset about the idea of using an alternate uniform once per season. I mean some folks in that thread are literally foaming at the mouth angry over it.
That is the definition of crazy in my opinion.
The rest was a train wreck.
I personally feel that it could be a really interesting discussion. I understand the argument both ways. When a point can be argued both ways, and sound logical either way I think that is an opportunity for a good discussion, but too many folks actually really do get their feelings hurt.
That uniform thread for instance. My god. I could not have imagined that people would get that upset about the idea of using an alternate uniform once per season. I mean some folks in that thread are literally foaming at the mouth angry over it.
That is the definition of crazy in my opinion.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 3:13 pm to PowHound
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Literally only a couple of posters were able to understand the thread topic
You keep saying this like it's everybody else's fault. Generally, it's probably your fault if 'only a couple posters' 'get' your point.
And I think pretty much everybody understands your thread topic tbh. It's just not a good one is the problem.
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