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re: Jimbo Gets His RF QB 52 Pass Attempts - CNS TF QB Gets 11 Attempts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to PowHound
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:01 am to PowHound
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Winning an SEC and national championship? I sure frickin hope so.
Could anyone convince you that Bama needed a miracle play from Arkansas to win the SEC and Natty last year because they lost to Miss last season ?
If they could, could they make the case that Bama lost because there was still a QB competition going on at the beginning of conference play, and a leader was established too late ?
I'm just asking.
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Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
FSU ran 93 plays
Alabama ran 63 plays
Alabama ran 63 plays
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:02 am to PowHound
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Could anyone convince you that Bama needed a miracle play from Arkansas to win the SEC and Natty last year
That logic will literally disqualify every national champion from the last 25 years.
Do you want me to go down a list? Stoerner fumble, Rocky Block, Kiffin beating Oregon and Okie St losing to Iowa St, etc etc etc
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:05 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:03 am to YStar
Dude. I apologized to you last week for overreacting. And said then I was ultimately behind whoever was under center. So don't even start with me.
In fact, I apologized again to the board in a thread for being wrong.
In fact, I apologized again to the board in a thread for being wrong.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:04 am to PowHound
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Would that seem reasonable to you, or is the point of this thread silly to you ? Honest question.
Maybe be patient and watch two freshmen develop. Or maybe be happy with what Alabama has going. Because it won't always be this way.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:06 am to CapstoneGrad06
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Because it won't always be this way.
Amen. I too vividly remember DuBose, Price, Fran and Shula to get pissed about stuff like this.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
I havent stated whether I was happy or not with how they are managing the QB's. I have posed a question to the forum in an effort to stimulate a conversation that I felt would elicit opinions from both sides of the situation.
I'm trying my best, but this thread has work to do. Especially with staying on point.
I'm trying my best, but this thread has work to do. Especially with staying on point.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:13 am to PowHound
Got ya - I just dont know, in terms of the actual gameplan and play calling (given the flow of the game), how else they could have managed it.
I think this week will be a get experience throwing the ball week, like these 2nd games generally seem to be.
I think this week will be a get experience throwing the ball week, like these 2nd games generally seem to be.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:13 am to PowHound
After the whole uniform thread, I haven't figured out yet if you're just trolling. But what the heck. I'll bite.
Follow along. I'll try and explain a couple of things that are obvious to the rest of us.
1. FSU QB played the whole game. We gave freshman QBs 17 attempts. Giving Barnett more reps is why I have no problem with the long pass to Dieter.
2. Cook's longest run was only 18 yards. FSU's longest pass plays were 31, 25, 27, 24, and 29 yards. Damien Harris had carries of 73 and 46 yards. We had TD passes of 39, 71, and 45. Howard also had a 40 yard reception. Unlike FSU's performance, we gobbled up yardage in much larger chunks...which obviously is going to result in fewer plays being run.
3. We had scoring drives of 3, 3, 4, 3, and 4 plays. Kind of hard to get you QB reps throwing the ball when you're only running 3 or 4 plays in a drive.
A normal close game and we're probably throwing it 35 times last Saturday, which is plenty. Of course, Saban could have told Stewart to trip over the 30 yard line, or maybe Harris to go Dalvin Cook and start playing with the football like it was a volleyball around the 40 yard line, so Hurts could get more pass attempts.
Follow along. I'll try and explain a couple of things that are obvious to the rest of us.
1. FSU QB played the whole game. We gave freshman QBs 17 attempts. Giving Barnett more reps is why I have no problem with the long pass to Dieter.
2. Cook's longest run was only 18 yards. FSU's longest pass plays were 31, 25, 27, 24, and 29 yards. Damien Harris had carries of 73 and 46 yards. We had TD passes of 39, 71, and 45. Howard also had a 40 yard reception. Unlike FSU's performance, we gobbled up yardage in much larger chunks...which obviously is going to result in fewer plays being run.
3. We had scoring drives of 3, 3, 4, 3, and 4 plays. Kind of hard to get you QB reps throwing the ball when you're only running 3 or 4 plays in a drive.
A normal close game and we're probably throwing it 35 times last Saturday, which is plenty. Of course, Saban could have told Stewart to trip over the 30 yard line, or maybe Harris to go Dalvin Cook and start playing with the football like it was a volleyball around the 40 yard line, so Hurts could get more pass attempts.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:14 am to PowHound
Everyone is bringing up the score.
What does CNS say about bringing up the score ? He says the inner scoreboard is different from the external one.
Who give a frick what the score was ? The mission was to get better. Can the passing game progress with the QB's getting 10 attempts per game ?
Riddle me that Batman !
What does CNS say about bringing up the score ? He says the inner scoreboard is different from the external one.
Who give a frick what the score was ? The mission was to get better. Can the passing game progress with the QB's getting 10 attempts per game ?
Riddle me that Batman !
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:18 am to PowHound
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What does CNS say about bringing up the score ? He says in the inner scoreboard is different from the external one.
Who give a frick what the score was ? The mission was to get better. Can the passing game progress with the QB's getting 10 attempts per game ?
The score matters because we did it quickly and that translates to less plays being run and less opportunities to throw. It's a literal factor of how many times you get to run football plays.
We ran 30 less offensive plays than Florida State did.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:19 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:20 am to PowHound
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how does this board feel about the presumed starter having 11 pass attempts in his career ?
Not thrilled about it but it is what it is. I doubt him throwing 10-15 more times in that game would make him "experienced/seasoned" going into the Ole Miss game.
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Should an emphasis be placed on getting one of the QB's more repetitions before SEC play ? Or will you be satisfied with another split of repetitions ?
The ideal situation, IMO, would've been for one of these guys to have CLEARLY won the job in the summer. Would be nice if they're not splitting snaps early on but that seems to be the repeating theme in these competitions.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:24 am to 615tider
Four downvotes for asking a non biased question. 
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:25 am to PowHound
People are addressing and answering your question, I dont really understand what you are looking for here.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
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People are addressing and answering your question, I dont really understand what you are looking for here.
Exactly.
Of course, we could have thrown a bunch of bubble screens for 6 yards apiece. That would have given the freshmen QBs a lot of needed work.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
PowHound don't fret, you're absolutely right, and idk why Alabama fans on forums start crying everytime you want to question lord Saban. It's a discussion forum. Open-minded people question everything, and there's nothing wrong with that.
With that said, I totally don't get it.
The only explanation is that somehow, heading into week 2, Saban still hasn't chosen a starter, and I doubt we'll see the QBs tested against WKU. Look for indecision at QB to hurt us against Ole Miss again. It might cost us the game again.
The problem really isn't Saban's philosphy on reps. Once he's chosen a guy, he loves keeping him in the game late (one of the gripes is that he never gets the backup any game exp). The problem is clearly that Saban is extremely indecisive when it comes to selecting a starting QB. In his mind, we still don't know if Jalen is going to be the guy moving forward.
With that said, I totally don't get it.
The only explanation is that somehow, heading into week 2, Saban still hasn't chosen a starter, and I doubt we'll see the QBs tested against WKU. Look for indecision at QB to hurt us against Ole Miss again. It might cost us the game again.
The problem really isn't Saban's philosphy on reps. Once he's chosen a guy, he loves keeping him in the game late (one of the gripes is that he never gets the backup any game exp). The problem is clearly that Saban is extremely indecisive when it comes to selecting a starting QB. In his mind, we still don't know if Jalen is going to be the guy moving forward.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:42 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:41 am to uofarolltide
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idk why Alabama fans on forums start crying everytime you want to question lord Saban
Good lawd
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Should an emphasis be placed on getting one of the QB's more repetitions before SEC play ? Or will you be satisfied with another split of repetitions ?
There is a saying, "if you have two QB's, you dont have one."
I'll keep my opinion to myself for the time being, but I am curious how the board feels about this ?
What would you do if you were having to prepare this team for SEC play ?
@George: I felt like the OP was fairly clear. :shruggs:
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 11:47 am
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
I'm just going to assume it's a bunch of early 20 somethings that only have the recollection of Saban as head coach. Somehow, despite all the success, the product on the field just isn't good enough.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:46 am to PowHound
Our fanbase will bitch about literally anything
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