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re: Jalen went from a "low IQ" Qb (Bama) to a Prolific Passer (OU) to an near MVP (NFL)
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:06 pm to RiverCityTider
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:06 pm to RiverCityTider
Mac Jones came to Alabama as a lightly recruited 3 star prospect and if it wasn’t for his own teammate winning it, he’d probably have won the Heisman his last season here. Shouldn’t Saban and staff get some credit there for development?
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Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:08 pm to RiverCityTider
Hurts wasn't low iq. Milroe is.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 7:45 pm to RiverCityTider
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Jalen went from a "low IQ" Qb (Bama) to a Prolific Passer (OU) to an near MVP (NFL)
Never once heard anyone refer to Jalen Hurts as "low IQ" while he was at Alabama, period. People questioned his field vision due to his height, sure. Some even questioned his ability to make all the throws for his first year or two. He worked hard, and improved while at Alabama, and was beloved for his grit. He put up bigger numbers at Oklahoma for three reasons. The defenses in the Big 12 sucked compared to the SEC. He stayed in for entire games at Oklahoma instead of a half, or maybe 3 quarters, in games at Alabama. He had to put up bigger numbers to win at Oklahoma.
Posted on 1/6/24 at 8:46 pm to Tupelo
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He had to put up bigger numbers to win at Oklahoma.
And he was ready to do it after playing at Bama and getting the work ethic instilled in him.
Sure, it's easy to nit-pick at Saban at this moment and sure, give Riley some credit for developing him just a bit more but you do have to give Bama some credit for getting Hurts ready for his time at Oklahoma.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:12 am to ItJustMeansMore
Go back and watch the first play of the Rose Bowl. It epitomizes the reason we lost.
Milroe looking down field as the pocket collapses... protection terrible. But TE, has made his cut and is running free in the middle.
Milroe didn't even look at the hot route.
Same thing on the second one... etc.
Throw the ball Jalen. Easy pass and it's 2nd and 4.
Michigan wasn't even trying to cover our hot routs BECAUSE WE DONT USE THEM.
If he hits that te a couple of times, Michigan adjusts, those sacks don't happen and we have downfield opportunities and a more effective run game.
Do you not think that a competent QB coach could have had Milroe utilizing his hot routes in almost a year of coaching?
Can't this be simulated in practice?
That's my whole point. There is just basic shiit that isn't getting effectively taught.
Milroe looking down field as the pocket collapses... protection terrible. But TE, has made his cut and is running free in the middle.
Milroe didn't even look at the hot route.
Same thing on the second one... etc.
Throw the ball Jalen. Easy pass and it's 2nd and 4.
Michigan wasn't even trying to cover our hot routs BECAUSE WE DONT USE THEM.
If he hits that te a couple of times, Michigan adjusts, those sacks don't happen and we have downfield opportunities and a more effective run game.
Do you not think that a competent QB coach could have had Milroe utilizing his hot routes in almost a year of coaching?
Can't this be simulated in practice?
That's my whole point. There is just basic shiit that isn't getting effectively taught.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:33 am to RiverCityTider
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Do you not think that a competent QB coach could have had Milroe utilizing his hot routes in almost a year of coachin
Not if the QB cannot process what is going on in real time game speed. He gets stuck in one process and that is whatever the first option of the pay that is called. He cannot see the pressure coming, open WRs, or escape the pocket to scramble.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 11:44 am to RiverCityTider
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Do you not think that a competent QB coach could have had Milroe utilizing his hot routes in almost a year of coaching?
I don't know at this point. I doubt that this hasn't been covered repeatedly in practices. Some QB's never get past certain hurdles, for whatever reason. I've seen senior QB's that never learned to throw the ball away rather than take a sack, for example. Sometimes it takes a long time for "the light to come on", and the game to slow down for QB's.
This post was edited on 1/7/24 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:12 pm to RiverCityTider
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Do you not think that a competent QB coach could have had Milroe utilizing his hot routes in almost a year of coachin
What’s more likely here?
An extremely successful coach who has been around for decades isn’t ensuring his QB is being taught to read/use hot routes?
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The QB hasn’t grasped the ability to read/use the hot routes?
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:20 pm to RiverCityTider
I will say that maybe there is something to us failing with dual threat type QBs and that’s because we don’t adjust our offense enough. It’s not a development issue. More so our offensive system not being suited to highlight a dual threat QB’s ability.
Although this year with Milroe…he isn’t good at read option runs or RPO. Not much you can do with that schematically if the QB isn’t good at it.
That’s gotta be fixed as well. No excuse a 4th year college QB can’t run read option. I mean come on.
Although this year with Milroe…he isn’t good at read option runs or RPO. Not much you can do with that schematically if the QB isn’t good at it.
That’s gotta be fixed as well. No excuse a 4th year college QB can’t run read option. I mean come on.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 12:32 pm to RiverCityTider
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Milroe looking down field as the pocket collapses... protection terrible. But TE, has made his cut and is running free in the middle.
Milroe didn't even look at the hot route.
Same thing on the second one... etc.
Milroe seems incapable of throwing to the outlet guys. Always trying to get it all on one play.
For instance that fumble. Make a damn decision and stick to it. If you're going to run, run like you're possessed. If you're going to throw to the WR... THROW IT.
Don't be double-minded, let the defender close then fumble because you're so damn unsure.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 2:03 pm to RiverCityTider
Sweet. Maybe Milroe will transfer to USC and become an NFL star. IDGAF. I want BAMA to win.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 7:08 pm to RiverCityTider
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Jalen went from a "low IQ" Qb (Bama) to a Prolific Passer (OU) to an near MVP (NFL)
Back to 2018 jalen in the last 7 or so games. The cycle is complete, he's gone full circle.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 9:56 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I attribute Jalen Hurt’s success to Jalen Hurts.
This is a good point. Hurts has the ideal mindset, which helped him to continuously grow. Milroe has shown some good things in terms of personality and leadership, but there have also been moments of immaturity, such as "Give me the Heisman," being too prideful to call himself a running quarterback, and calling out BoB. He can continue to grow, but he mentally is not where Hurts was at this point.
Posted on 1/7/24 at 10:02 pm to RiverCityTider
Jalen Hurts absolutely improved. His real problem is that for some reason in 2017, he couldn't play well on the road. His second problem is that arguably the best quarterback in Alabama history was riding the bench and everyone knew it. Just about any other year, he doesn't get benched.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 10:59 am to RiverCityTider
I don't think Hurts was ever a "low IQ" QB. He was inexperienced, raw, and inaccurate, and had "protect the ball" drilled into his head. He got better each season and improved his accuracy. He also was forced to start before he was ready. This was Milroe's 3rd season. His mechanics are still awful. One has to wonder what he does in the offseason.
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