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re: If one person on this board defends coker
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:22 am to bamafan1001
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:22 am to bamafan1001
The coaches put Bateman in with a "you had one job" type of motto. That job was to run the read option. The read option sucks if the QB doesn't ever keep it.
Bateman keeps it and our first field goal would have been a touchdown.
Bateman keeps it and our first field goal would have been a touchdown.
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Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:27 am to chattabama
agree 100% and why was Kiffen not in his face on the sideline yelling at him to occassional keep the damn ball.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:34 am to I Love Bama
Coker did everything in his power to make UA lose that frickING game.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 8:35 am to thatdude1985
He played hard but he does not have the IT factor so I cant blame him for this loss.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:01 am to mrbroker
I am not defending anyone but sure as hell not blaming Coker. He was responsible for 4 TDs last night. Kept us in the game and so what he threw an interception late. We also dropped an interception that could have changed the outcome. He got us within 6 points. Lets talk about our return game that if they could hold onto the ball we would have won the game with Coker's performance last night.
The said part for many on here if he would have drove down the last series and won the game many would be praising him.
The said part for many on here if he would have drove down the last series and won the game many would be praising him.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:03 am to TideWarrior
I do think the coaches now know that it is Coker's team so no more games with practice on who gets first team reps etc. And my beef with the MTS game was we tried to do something like pass on every down instead of play our bread and butter mixed in with roll outs and play actions. Let us get back to that in the LaMonroe game
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:03 am to TideWarrior
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The said part for many on here if he would have drove down the last series and won the game many would be praising him.
But he didn't. He threw an interception.
Coker has some major limitations and I'd hardly consider him an asset.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:05 am to FairhopeTider
I do..He made some great runs to convert on third and longs. I just think the O now needs to be limited to his best qualities. Against a fast D you can keep running the sweeps which in my recollection got us very little last night.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:09 am to FairhopeTider
Perhaps. But he didnt lose that game. There were drops that would have put them at midfield sooner. There were some wrong routes run. There was some poor blocking.
Thete was enough plays at qb to win this game if not for 5 damn turnovers and a freak td.
Thete was enough plays at qb to win this game if not for 5 damn turnovers and a freak td.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:14 am to Alahunter
I think Alec Morris may be the game manager mode as he is smart. Not sure he has the wheels though. I wonder if he gets a sniff this week as the #2 to see what he can do once Coker gets Bama a nice lead
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:17 am to Alahunter
What we underestimate in this game is the "no Amari Cooper" factor. With Cooper, (outside of the LSU game) you were almost assured that if a pass landed in his hands he would catch it. Even our most dependable WR (Richard Mullaney) had a few passes that should have been caught. In short, yes Coker had a bad game, but his WRs didn't do him any favors.
Last year we did a bad job of rotating in some of the younger WRs to help them get acclimated to the game. Last year ArDarius Stewart had just 12 receptions, Chris Black had 15 receptions, and Robert Foster had 6 receptions. We are reaping those consequences now.
Last year we did a bad job of rotating in some of the younger WRs to help them get acclimated to the game. Last year ArDarius Stewart had just 12 receptions, Chris Black had 15 receptions, and Robert Foster had 6 receptions. We are reaping those consequences now.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:19 am to Alahunter
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There were some wrong routes run.
This stood out to me last night. I saw a few balls go beyond the WR and it seemed to happen more with A Stewart routes than anyone. I started noticing in the 2nd half that Stewart was getting pushed back off the line and may have caused some of the bad plays as he never got to where the QB was expecting him to.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:49 am to TideWarrior
Just looked at the box score for the first time.
Total yds
Bama 503
Ole Miss 433
TOP
Bama 35:26
Ole Miss 24:34
First Downs
Bama 29
Ole Miss 16
3rd Down Conversion
Bama 11 for 20
Ole Miss 4 for 14
Turnovers
Bama 5
Ole Miss 0
Offense played good enough to win this game. Fricking rare to even have a chance at the end with that many turnovers. Everything that went wrong are fixable issues and that many turnovers is an extremely rare thing. Let's not hit the panic button just yet.
Total yds
Bama 503
Ole Miss 433
TOP
Bama 35:26
Ole Miss 24:34
First Downs
Bama 29
Ole Miss 16
3rd Down Conversion
Bama 11 for 20
Ole Miss 4 for 14
Turnovers
Bama 5
Ole Miss 0
Offense played good enough to win this game. Fricking rare to even have a chance at the end with that many turnovers. Everything that went wrong are fixable issues and that many turnovers is an extremely rare thing. Let's not hit the panic button just yet.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 9:56 am to Alahunter
Exactly we did what we needed to minus protecting the ball. That game minus the turnovers was good enough to beat anyone on our schedule.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:03 am to Alahunter
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Everything that went wrong are fixable issues and that many turnovers is an extremely rare thing. Let's not hit the panic button just yet.
5 turnovers are rare, but I'm not ready to write that off as a fluke. Its not like yesterday was out of the ordinary play from Coker. He's the most turnover-prone QB we've had under Saban. He could very well be good for a few INTs a game...especially on the road. Drake has a long history of putting the ball on the ground.
Point is that the turnover problem is not exactly uncharacteristic of us. Its more than likely going to keep happening. (Probably not 5 but multiple TOs per game)
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 10:05 am
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:33 am to FairhopeTider
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Its not like yesterday was out of the ordinary play from Coker
He had no turnovers against Wisconsin and one against Mid. Tenn. Yesterday, he had two when it was somewhat obvious he was going to be passing.
This yr, he is 51 of 91 (56%) for 628 yds and 5 TD's and 3 TO's now. Not exactly in the Heisman race. But good enough to be the starting QB and certainly good enough to not be getting the blame for yesterday's loss.
There is enough blame to go around. The Oline was pretty bad at times. Special teams put us behind the 8 ball from the get go. Henry, as good as he is, is easily tackled before he gets a head of steam. Several dropped balls late in the game. Busted route running....questionable play calling, unable to trust the kicking game.. It was a team loss. And the loss was caused by mistakes that can be corrected.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:43 am to ReauxlTide222
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Why is Coker doing this to people? Did you watch?
Coker couldn't have been worse. Ole Miss dropped probably 6 picks from him. He was god awful. Bateman didn't play enough to get a really good read on him but he had a bad pick as well.
This This 1000000x this
If yall cant see that this kid is awful then I dont know what to tell you. We have nothing to offer at the QB position this year. Coker is not the answer, Bateman is not the answer. I'm not saying that the answer is on our roster, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that those 2 arent it.
and to whoever said...
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Coker is our QB. Get used to it.
You have his cock 12 inches down your throat. Get used to that. You frick wits that just want to call people idiots and stupid because you disagree with their opinion are just a retarded as anyone else.
How about this
We are not the football team this year that we have been in recent years. We are going to lose more games. It's not Kiffin's fault, he is doing the best he can with what he has. Did he make some bonehead play calls last night? Yeah, but I've never seen a OC that didnt make bonehead calls sometimes. He is far better than any OC we have had in a long arse time for thats for fricking sure.
You tell me that Coker is our QB and to get used to it? Well I tell you that we are not that good this year and are gonna lose more games, so get used to that.
And by the way, down years happen. It's part of a sport being played by over 100 teams in your division. You're not always gonna be the best in the fricking country. Stop being a bunch of fricking spoiled arse babies. grow a set, and just fricking enjoy football season.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:45 am to Alahunter
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Turnovers
Bama 5
Ole Miss 0
Offense played good enough to win this game.
No. No they didn't. If they had, they wouldnt have turned the damn ball over 3 times to go along with our special teams turning it over twice (both times of which were by offensive players fyi, so all 5 turnovers were on offensive players not protecting the ball)
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Its not like yesterday was out of the ordinary play from Coker
He had no turnovers against Wisconsin and one against Mid. Tenn. Yesterday, he had two when it was somewhat obvious he was going to be passing.
You bring up his lack of turnovers in those 2 games and I will point out the defenses of those 2 teams being too terrible to capitalize on him throwing into double and triple coverage more times than I can count. He stares down his first receiver and he rarely breaks off him, even in triple coverage. It's a wonder he didnt have about 3 more ints last night and it was only because the guys that can catch the ball play offense instead of defense. Same with the other 2 games we played.
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 10:49 am
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:48 am to FairhopeTider
Sims threw picks that lost us games but people still suck his dick on this board
I don't get it. Coker actually did better than Blake and people hate Coker, but not Sims
500 yards offense
37 points
5 TD drives (3 passing, 1 QB run)
All AFTER you decided to demote him and kill whatever confidence he may have had. But the QB was the problem. Lol ok guys
I don't get it. Coker actually did better than Blake and people hate Coker, but not Sims
500 yards offense
37 points
5 TD drives (3 passing, 1 QB run)
All AFTER you decided to demote him and kill whatever confidence he may have had. But the QB was the problem. Lol ok guys
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 10:52 am
Posted on 9/20/15 at 10:52 am to nb200016
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I don't get it. Coker actually did better than Blake and people hate Coker, but not Sims
The difference is that We all knew Sims was NOT a high quality QB last year and that he was playing because we just didnt have anyone better.
This year, we have this kid that is supposed to be incredible that gave up his last 2 years at FSU to start at Alabama that wasnt even good enough to beat out Sims last year and we are seeing why RIGHT frickING NOW.
Last year we had a QB playing so far over his head that he had a birds eye view of his own life. This year we have a QB that is so far from living up to his hype that its painful to watch.
ALSO, he threw 2 game defining interceptions. All that shite he did good is completely erased when he makes mistakes that make up twice the amount of points that we lost by
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 10:55 am
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