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re: Alabama Baseball Thread V2 : season over thank goodness
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:32 am to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:32 am to CapstoneGrad06
Correct. The train may have had a wreck, but it won't destroy the railroad, nor the conductor who just came on board.....the other guy laid some bad track! 
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Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:34 am to Cobrasize
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I was willing to give him a pass on the year, until I read about how he treated the alumni. That's just bad leadership and arrogance
Yep. That's no way to build a program. frick him. Won't be going to any more baseball games as long as he's the coach. I've only been to 2 this year, so it's not a huge boycott, but still...
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:15 am to The Spleen
As bad as Gaspard was with managing a game, I don't ever remember seeing this much negativity. He didn't have a problem being a nice guy and solid spokesman for the program. I doubt we'd be this bad had we kept him and I say this as someone who wanted him gone after 2015.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:22 am to AHM21
If Goff is able to turn this program around next year he deserves coach of the year. I've never seen our program be in worse shape, on and off the field. It's ridiculous.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:27 am to AHM21
We're in a pretty bad situation right now, fellas. We had a past coach who created this clusterfrick, and another guy creating another shite storm inside of it all. Hard to even think when we'll be competitive.
I imagine we'll look back at it all and remember the times Alabama was a competitive baseball program, with aspirations of making it to Omaha. Now all we'll hope is making it to Hoover and not getting shite-canned by other SEC Baseball programs who have slowly surpassed us.
Full pessimistic Bammer: [on] off
I imagine we'll look back at it all and remember the times Alabama was a competitive baseball program, with aspirations of making it to Omaha. Now all we'll hope is making it to Hoover and not getting shite-canned by other SEC Baseball programs who have slowly surpassed us.
Full pessimistic Bammer: [on] off
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 10:29 am
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:31 am to Bamafan15
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I've never seen our program be in worse shape, on and off the field. It's ridiculous.
Maybe 1994? That's the only thing I can compare. I don't remember before Barry Shollenberger.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 10:42 am to CapstoneGrad06
Well I was born in 95 so this is the worst I've seen it
Posted on 5/1/17 at 11:54 am to Bamafan15
I think we're going to realize that making the NCAA Tournament most years and the SEC Tournament every year wasn't the most terrible thing in the world.
We could very easily be entering Tennessee/pre-2017 Auburn territory. Sucks.
We could very easily be entering Tennessee/pre-2017 Auburn territory. Sucks.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:17 pm to Bamafan15
Bama baseball was pretty bad in the late 80's. I can remember going to games when they just had the bleachers you see at the little league fields, and there'd be about 20 people there. I think the entire SEC except MSU and LSU were pretty bad then though.
Really in my life, the program has been pretty average overall. A few good years in the early 80's, and the Wells era were the high points. Wells should have won it all in 97. Roberto Vaz's freak injury derailed that shot. Those teams were so fun to watch.
Really in my life, the program has been pretty average overall. A few good years in the early 80's, and the Wells era were the high points. Wells should have won it all in 97. Roberto Vaz's freak injury derailed that shot. Those teams were so fun to watch.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:23 pm to The Spleen
The mid-late 90's Alabama teams were elite. The early 2000s Alabama teams were generally Top 25 teams. The end of Wells and Gaspard were bubble teams. And now we are the worst team in the history of the SEC.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 1:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And with a coach who's doing everything wrong at the moment. He's pissing off fans and alumni alike and running off recruits. This is not a good way to start off. Maybe he does get another year. Personally, I've seen enough to call it a bad hire. If I were Byrne, I'd be making some calls behind the scenes to gauge interest. Like I said in an earlier post, I don't think anyone in baseball circles would hold the quick hook against us given the circumstances. It is what it is, and I don't make the decisions. I have nothing personal against Goff, I hope he does turn it around, but a coach has to earn a certain level of respect, it's not given when you walk in the door. And right now, I'd say Goff thought it was included in the contract. If he stays, I'd say he burned every bit of goodwill he was granted on his hiring and will be on a very short leash going forward.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 2:49 pm to phil4bama
I haven't followed Bama baseball as closely in recent years. Didn't the Goff hiring kind of come out of left field? Like his name wasn't really being thrown around, and then one day his hiring was announced.
I'm probably mid-remembering that though.
Anyway, firing him wouldn't burn any bridges since Byrne could just chalk it to having a diffrent vision than the prior AD.
I'm probably mid-remembering that though.
Anyway, firing him wouldn't burn any bridges since Byrne could just chalk it to having a diffrent vision than the prior AD.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:44 pm to The Spleen
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Like his name wasn't really being thrown around, and then one day his hiring was announced.
We supposedly were attempting to hire Godwin from ECU and David Pierce from Tulane.
Godwin is still at ECU and Pierce has Texas good again in Year 1.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 3:52 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And yes, I too remember Goff's name just appearing and blowing up almost instantly. I think the in-state experience coupled with his records at Montevallo and La Tech got him hired when nobody else showed great interest. There certainly was very little or no digging done or his shortcomings would have been easily discovered. I just don't feel like I want this guy being the face of the program with his demeanor.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:36 pm to phil4bama
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Or his demeanor and disrespect toward alumni players.
This is one of the most troubling things I have heard about him...if what I heard was true. I have no reason to believe otherwise. Alienating former players could bring the axe quicker and/or give admin another reason to make a change.
I am still OK with him returning because change in leadership can cause many issues. Issues that are corrected by bringing in his type players over time.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 7:51 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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but him over using pitchers,
Also one of Wells' problem areas back in the day. I talked with a regional scout for a MLB team back then, he knew I was a Bama fan. He said pitchers looking at a 4 year school were not considering Bama, (and other programs) because they overused their pitchers.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:02 pm to The White Lobster
Sorry for the repeated replies here...just catching up.
Wait, this is actually a rule!?
Now I have let my son know I prefer not seeing him do this. But that is my son and and not a rule, just my preference.
If Goff is making these type of rules I see a couple possible scenarios/explanations:
1. He is on a major power trip.
2. He decided he needed separate the wheat from the chaff, even if it meant sacrificing a year.
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I mean why does he care if a player wears a hat backwards away from the field? Does it bother him that much that he has to make it a rule?
Wait, this is actually a rule!?
Now I have let my son know I prefer not seeing him do this. But that is my son and and not a rule, just my preference.
If Goff is making these type of rules I see a couple possible scenarios/explanations:
1. He is on a major power trip.
2. He decided he needed separate the wheat from the chaff, even if it meant sacrificing a year.
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:02 pm to The White Lobster
Double post.
just to add another consecutive reply I guess.
just to add another consecutive reply I guess.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:05 pm to Bama323_15
I'll be honest, not wearing your hat backwards isn't that insane a rule. It sounds that way in 2017, but I think we all had coaches/managers who felt that way (to be frank, I still kind of feel that way, but I'm basically a hybrid 1945 baseball man with a 2017 love for analytics).
That isn't a huge deal to me. The making up random rules during the year to just sort of show you are the boss and fvck with kids is really stupid.
That isn't a huge deal to me. The making up random rules during the year to just sort of show you are the boss and fvck with kids is really stupid.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I was all for giving him another year, until the alumni thing happened. It's one thing to be a hard nosed coach, but to disrespect alumni is just a prick move. We don't need that type of coach in our athletic department.
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