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re: Alabama Baseball Thread V2 : season over thank goodness
Posted on 4/29/17 at 3:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 4/29/17 at 3:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:It's not for his benefit...it's for mine. There's nothing more to be said about an embarrassing situation like this and all the repetition doesn't help the team nor the program.
Sorry, that's not the way things work in major collegiate and professional sports. He doesn't get to cower in the corner and ride out the worst season in modern SEC history without talking about it.
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 6:46 pm to coachcrisp
Lost 4-3 in 11
2-19 in the SEC is a fireable offense
2-19 in the SEC is a fireable offense
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:08 pm to AHM21
I agree. This is unbelievable. I highly doubt he gets fired, but it sure wouldn't hurt my feelings. There is something wrong.
Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:14 pm to Cobrasize
We are approaching Washington Generals status.
What an embarrassment.
What an embarrassment.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 7:36 am to coachcrisp
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When a team is going like this, the fingers start pointing and the long knives come out. It's not the end of the world and the guy will right the ship, even though it's hard to see it now.
Goff may not survive, even though I think he will be given a couple more years to try. But if he does not, maybe the next coach can benefit from Goff cleaning house.
ETA: Before being asked or called out. I have no real info other than it has been my impression that this season has tanked due to an internal "revolt" from the players. Maybe players were accustomed to more freedom, feel good pats on the back, etc. than Goff is accustomed to giving. He has to coach the way that fits his personality and that has made him successful enough to land an SEC job.
Just because the current group of players do not appear to respond positively to a coach who, is rumored to be a hard arse, does not mean he cant find players who will. I assume he was the same hard arse at his other stops.
I would rather give him time to build a team with players he wants rather than find a coach to fit the current group of players.
This post was edited on 4/30/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:22 am to Bamafan15
Our parting gift from Battle. Guy's a good businessman and fund raiser. As an AD he sucked donkey balls. Goff was his final mistake. Time to pull the plug. There's no excuse for this historic crash and burn. Or his demeanor and disrespect toward alumni players. He was going to get a pass on his shitty record until he started acting like an arse and someone who thinks he's Casey Stengall. Time to see why we hired Byrne. Turn him loose on the trail for a baseball coach. frick Goff. We gave him the keys to a decent program and he promptly turned it into a raging greasy dumpster fire.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 9:51 am to phil4bama
No way they fire him after one year, in baseball.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:10 am to remaster916
Why not? Acknowledge that it's not working out, part ways amicably and move on before he further damages the program.
Baseball people are saying we made a mistake. The state of the program and inferences from a multitude of sources point to it being a mistake. The first example was within days of Goff's hiring, the kid we had committed to pitch for us who was supposed to be a stud from in state decommits.
We needed a change when Goff was hired but the program was in decent shape. The program didn't need to be burnt to the ground nor should it have been. But it was. It was razed like Sherman through Atlanta. We needed a retooling. Now after one year of Goff, we've got to rebuild from ground zero. That's ridiculous. You might expect that from someone who has the credentials and cache of Nick Saban or Bob Knight. They've earned the respect and right to be assholes and to burn a program to the ground if they see fit. This is Greg Goff, a couple of years removed from mother fricking Montevallo U. Get the frick over yourself. Any coach can be hard nosed. But you have to earn the respect of people to be a first class a-hole and Goff has a long way to go. Pull the plug.
Baseball people are saying we made a mistake. The state of the program and inferences from a multitude of sources point to it being a mistake. The first example was within days of Goff's hiring, the kid we had committed to pitch for us who was supposed to be a stud from in state decommits.
We needed a change when Goff was hired but the program was in decent shape. The program didn't need to be burnt to the ground nor should it have been. But it was. It was razed like Sherman through Atlanta. We needed a retooling. Now after one year of Goff, we've got to rebuild from ground zero. That's ridiculous. You might expect that from someone who has the credentials and cache of Nick Saban or Bob Knight. They've earned the respect and right to be assholes and to burn a program to the ground if they see fit. This is Greg Goff, a couple of years removed from mother fricking Montevallo U. Get the frick over yourself. Any coach can be hard nosed. But you have to earn the respect of people to be a first class a-hole and Goff has a long way to go. Pull the plug.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:20 am to Bama323_15
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He has to coach the way that fits his personality and that has made him successful enough to land an SEC job.
Over time he should do this, but the best coaches adapt their coaching style to fit their players' personalities.
If you watch Saban, he doesn't just chew out everybody. He'll chew out certain players. Others he'll explain to them what they did wrong when they messed up.
How many recruits are seriously going to want to play for Goff? Strict coaching is one thing, but him over using pitchers, making guys shave facial hair, etc. would make UA a no for me if I were a recruit.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 10:42 am to phil4bama
I was willing to give him a pass on the year, until I read about how he treated the alumni. That's just bad leadership and arrogance
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:36 am to TomRollTideRitter
I think, if these stories are all true (they probably aren't), we should count our stars we have am opportunity to bail out now and let our shiny new AD hire his man.
This is supposed to be one of Byrne's specialities and he still, regardless of this season, has a solid product to sell and money to throw at them. He can find a solid baseball coach.
This is supposed to be one of Byrne's specialities and he still, regardless of this season, has a solid product to sell and money to throw at them. He can find a solid baseball coach.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 11:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
George, too much smoke there not to be a few flames. If we had no talent but the guys were playing hard and losing that's one thing but when we have some talent and they obviously don't give a frick, have quit, something has to change. Do we give him another year and risk further implosion like we did with Wendell Hudson or do we admit a mistake and try to correct it? I don't think anyone in the business would hold it against us for the quick hook given the circumstances.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:21 pm to phil4bama
Yea, I don't think the former players have anything to gain by lying about him. Some things might not be true, but I believe he treated the alumni like shite and that's inexcusable
Posted on 4/30/17 at 12:31 pm to phil4bama
First impressions is key imo and a Bama camp my 2 boys (1 is a LHP/OF and other is a OF/3B/C and both are HS Sophomores) attended this past December did not leave a good impression with them. Hardly any player interaction with the campers.
Camp wasn't as organized as other SEC camps they attended (LSU and MSU) which was a turn off for them.
Camp wasn't as organized as other SEC camps they attended (LSU and MSU) which was a turn off for them.
Posted on 4/30/17 at 4:28 pm to TomRollTideRitter
Also Saban doesn't have a bunch of asinine rules that don't equate to winning games. I mean why does he care if a player wears a hat backwards away from the field? Does it bother him that much that he has to make it a rule? Wearing a hat backwards off campus has absolutely no effect on winning a baseball game.
Saban basically has two rules. Be on time and do your job. He couldn't care less if you haven't shaved in two days.
He's apparently an arse, he has dumb rules, he overworks pitchers, and he is 2-19 in the SEC. Move on IMO
Saban basically has two rules. Be on time and do your job. He couldn't care less if you haven't shaved in two days.
He's apparently an arse, he has dumb rules, he overworks pitchers, and he is 2-19 in the SEC. Move on IMO
Posted on 5/1/17 at 12:06 am to The White Lobster
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I mean why does he care if a player wears a hat backwards away from the field?
He's so over the top that he actually made the graphics team come up with a new video board pic of Eicholtz before the season started because he had facial hair in last year's pic. He was like "that's not my pitcher."
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 12:07 am
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:24 am to crimson crazy
Question: What's everybody gonna say if Goff turns this team around next year and has them competitive? Will we see these negative posts then?....maybe we'll find out. 
Posted on 5/1/17 at 8:45 am to coachcrisp
Well, you can bring up the negative post about Goff, but at least there's a few us of that watched this train wreck transpire.
I still have hope Goff can turn it around, but all signs point to a bad hire right now.
I still have hope Goff can turn it around, but all signs point to a bad hire right now.
This post was edited on 5/1/17 at 9:06 am
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:04 am to coachcrisp
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Question: What's everybody gonna say if Goff turns this team around next year and has them competitive? Will we see these negative posts then
We'll be happy he turned it around?
Posted on 5/1/17 at 9:24 am to coachcrisp
I'll be happy for once. He needs another year. But the leash will be short after this disaster.
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