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re: Columnist says LSU is overrated

Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:58 am to
Posted by LSU Yellow Cab
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/2/09 at 1:58 am to

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semblance of leadership on defense they wouldn't have been near getting those points


Had LSU any leadership period last season alot of things could have been avoided. You think Hester, Bowe, Dorsey, LaRon would have let players slack, not hustle, or quit during the season?

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Bama got 3 TDS of those INTs

I have it at 14-7 Unless you are deciding to count the OT turnover

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LSU OCs didn't offer him options

Was an issue with all the QB's not just Jefferson, they were ill prepared once Perrilloux was kicked off and Hatch went down.

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As for Toliver, he got more looks at the end of the season and proved to be a solid receiver in the making. He looked better last season than Lafell did in 2006 before turning it on in 2007 and 2008

LaFell was buried behind Bowe, Doucet, Davis he had a reason to struggle.

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Those numbers will go up with JJ at QB than when Lee was there throwing to Lafell or Dickson on every play

Him and Lee combined for 10 catches in Troy/Bama/Ole Miss games. Jefferson and Toliver combined for 8 in Ole Miss/Arkansas/GT.
His numbers will go up but mainly because he will get more looks. Although if he fails to live up to his potential and hype RR could over take him as the #2.

Posted by GeauxBob
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 9/2/09 at 2:13 am to
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Had LSU any leadership period last season alot of things could have been avoided. You think Hester, Bowe, Dorsey, LaRon would have let players slack, not hustle, or quit during the season?


Oh I agree with this completely, but I think the bigger issue was lack of leadership at the top in the DCs. Love him or hate him, Pellini led the defense and gave them someone to look up to in times of trouble. The Co-DCs didn't offer this, and its not all their fault. I think Les made a stupid decision from the start in that you now had TWO position coaches losing time with their positional players because of increased duties, and this led to a lot of problems.

Chavis has shown that he can handle being DC and positional coach at the same time, as referenced by his solid development of LBers over the years.

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I have it at 14-7 Unless you are deciding to count the OT turnover



Yes, I was counting the INT in OT mainly for its demoralizing effects. The INT from Bama set us up in decent field position, but not automatic TD position like Lee's gave to Bama for their 2. Still, that's huge INTs that killed momentum. Bama did miss 2 FGs, but LSU missed a chip shot too, so that leaves the one blocked at the end.

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Was an issue with all the QB's not just Jefferson, they were ill prepared once Perrilloux was kicked off and Hatch went down.


Agreed. I don't think people realize how far back Jefferson was in his development since he wasn't there for spring practice, and Hatch's injury was huge whether people realize it or not. He gave us a calming effect when out there, but still was limited. I think that Jefferson this season will offer everything that Hatch did last season with the stronger and better arm.



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Him and Lee combined for 10 catches in Troy/Bama/Ole Miss games. Jefferson and Toliver combined for 8 in Ole Miss/Arkansas/GT.
His numbers will go up but mainly because he will get more looks. Although if he fails to live up to his potential and hype RR could over take him as the #2.


He got 8 receptions from LEE in those 3 games and 8 from Jefferson in 3 games. With his movement into the #2 spot, I could see his catches being around 45-55 this season, much like Bowe, Doucet, Davis had in 2006. I think this season will be more balanced than last year as far as the receivers go.
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