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re: WR Coach Candidates (UPDATE: McClendon moved to WRs coach, Thomas Brown as RBs coach)
Posted on 2/14/15 at 11:38 pm to VADawg
Posted on 2/14/15 at 11:38 pm to VADawg
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Just saying having a possible NFL HOFer of staff doesn't mean he would be an ace recruiter.
True dat, there is a bunch of wantto in that job. Travel down the back roads, parent, kids, etc, etc.
But have Hines in that slot would attract the hell out of me if I were a WR. Plus he is personable as hell. If he wants it, I think he would do a helluva job.
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Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:37 am to WhopperDawg
Exactly. I think a lot of recruits would be star struck if they saw Hines walk in their home and want them to play for him.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 6:48 am to RunLindsayRun
I'm sorry, but I guess I'm in the minority. I see no reason why Ward would be a good coach. He has zero experience. I love the guy, but I want someone that knows how how to teach.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 6:49 am
Posted on 2/15/15 at 8:58 am to Sanford&MunSon
Michael Irvin is one of the all time great receivers in NFL history. He's never coached a day. Zero "teaching" experience. But have you ever seen him do one of his elite receiver camps on NFL network? The dude knows more about receiver technique than you could possibly fathom. And you know why? Because when you receive instruction on something for 20 years, you sorta learn how it works.
I'm pretty freaking sure Hines Ward was paying attention to his teachers and their methods and hasn't forgotton how to show someone how he was taught and what he learned. In fact, I'd bet he's already done this at multiple dozens of training camps and mentored several dozen would be prospects over the years, not to mention many of the new receiver teammates he had under him while he was playing.
Acting like he'd be ineffective simply because he hasn't had the monicker of "Coach" before his name yet is simply obtuse and borderline retarded.
I'm pretty freaking sure Hines Ward was paying attention to his teachers and their methods and hasn't forgotton how to show someone how he was taught and what he learned. In fact, I'd bet he's already done this at multiple dozens of training camps and mentored several dozen would be prospects over the years, not to mention many of the new receiver teammates he had under him while he was playing.
Acting like he'd be ineffective simply because he hasn't had the monicker of "Coach" before his name yet is simply obtuse and borderline retarded.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:05 am to BeefDawg
first of all, he cant just come in and be a position coach until he has passed the NCAA recruiting test, met other NCAA requiremnts and pass CPR, first aid and other stuff. That is why you see guys do a year or two as a GA to get this stuff under their belt.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:41 am to Peter Buck
The NCAA recruiting test is open book and a joke, I studied 3 days and missed one because I read over the word not in the question.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:15 am to bigdawg7780
He still has to put in all that leg work. Then, he needs to be committed to working 5 times the hours he is working now for most likely less money.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 10:50 am to Sanford&MunSon
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I see no reason why Ward would be a good coach. He has zero experience
How much experince did Steve Spurrier have when he became UF's QB coach in the late 70's?
Not saying HW will or won't be a solid coach...I think it depends on the individual and the circumstances and how much someone would really want to do it.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 11:12 am to Peter Buck
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He still has to put in all that leg work. Then, he needs to be committed to working 5 times the hours he is working now for most likely less money
Agreed I don't anyone has an appreciation for what coaching really means time wise.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:18 pm to BeefDawg
So I'm borderline retarded because I expressed doubt about a guy with no experience? Playing and coaching are two different aspects of the game and being good at one doesn't mean that the other comes naturally. I love Hines Ward, but I'd rather UGA hire someone that has a proven track record coaching.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:25 pm to RD Dawg
Well sure it's easy to cherry pick one of the greatest coaches to ever coach in college football and compare the two. Maybe Hines would be great. Maybe he wouldn't. When it comes to UGA football I prefer to bet on proven commodities however.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:43 pm to Sanford&MunSon
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Well sure it's easy to cherry pick one of the greatest coaches to ever coach in college football and compare the two
Cherry pick? Just giving a comparable example of someone going from the NFL to a posistion coach at the college where they played.You think Doug Dicky thought he'd be one of the all timers when he hired 'em?
Anyway,I HIGHLY doubt the scenerio would ever take place with Hines...has he expressed interest in coaching? If he has I haven't heard about it.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:47 pm to RD Dawg
I say let Schottenheimer run point on the decision, and give CJP veto power if the candidate doesn't pass the "Tuscaloosa East" philosophy test.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:49 pm to Sanford&MunSon
We're talking about teaching receivers. WTF is he going to do, show them bad technique so they start dropping balls and running shitty routes and unable to hold blocks??
This isn't frickin rocket science. Hines did all these things at an elite level. Use your head. He's more than qualified to "teach" receivers. This is becoming beyond ridiculous.
The only question should be if he can recruit and is willing to put in the time. Surely with his charisma and reputation he'd be able to recruit. So really it would just boil down to if he's willing to put in the time.
This isn't frickin rocket science. Hines did all these things at an elite level. Use your head. He's more than qualified to "teach" receivers. This is becoming beyond ridiculous.
The only question should be if he can recruit and is willing to put in the time. Surely with his charisma and reputation he'd be able to recruit. So really it would just boil down to if he's willing to put in the time.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 12:59 pm to BeefDawg
You made a lot of assumptions in your post. Personally I have no idea if he can "teach" or if he can recruit and neither do you because he has no record of doing so. But if that's not enough then I would simply question how long he really wants to coach and as Buck said how much legwork is he willing to put into it. Again this is just my opinion man and I don't expect you or anyone else to necessarily agree with it.
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 1:00 pm
Posted on 2/15/15 at 3:40 pm to BeefDawg
Just because he can do those things doesn't mean he can teach them.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 8:51 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
How many NFL head Coaches who won Super Bowls were HOF players?
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:33 pm to Peter Buck
Does Hines know the position intimately - yes
Has he gone from high school to college to pro and thus knows every ins and outs on every level there is - yes
Is he a leader - yes
Motivator - yes
Would his personality and rep help recruiting that position and possibly others - yes
The only questions on this is money and time, other than that - a slam dunk.
Has he gone from high school to college to pro and thus knows every ins and outs on every level there is - yes
Is he a leader - yes
Motivator - yes
Would his personality and rep help recruiting that position and possibly others - yes
The only questions on this is money and time, other than that - a slam dunk.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:34 pm to Peter Buck
My guess would be zero.
Posted on 2/15/15 at 9:41 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Ditka...but why the comparison between a Super Bowl winning coach and posistion coach in college?
Apples to Bowling Balls
You think Peyton couldn't get a job as an OC in the NFL or CFB if he choose to go that route?
Apples to Bowling Balls
You think Peyton couldn't get a job as an OC in the NFL or CFB if he choose to go that route?
This post was edited on 2/15/15 at 9:58 pm
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