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re: What Georgia player is this?

Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by adawgj
Brunswick
Member since Oct 2012
1749 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:04 pm to
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The real issue here is that Winston was racially profiled. If Aaron Murray or another white player took some crab legs, they wouldnt have been caught because no one would have been watching him. Winston is the victim of a racist society that unfairly assumes all black males could be theives and need to be watched.



Yes, I agree with all of the above. You gotta be sneaky to get some crab legs out da grocery store doh.
Posted by TripleBrass
Member since Sep 2012
746 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:10 pm to
There isn't even a system in place to restrict an athlete's access to a dining hall...they get the same as any student. Unlimited.

Whether or not they use it is another story.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Casper the Dawg
Warner Robins, ga.
Member since Jan 2014
376 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:21 pm to
Just pay them something and this kinda bs goes away, simple. Next issue will be them buying whores.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

..how much does a four year education cost at the University of Georgia?

Less than the revenue they generate for the Athletic department that pays for it... considerably

...and technically, they only get it year to year.



A lot of these kids are broke and do not have spending money of much consequence. Much less than the average student I would dare say. When you are broke and young and you see all the money being spent on football at UGA and other schools. It is easy to feel the way these guys do....Feel free to judge this situation from the perspective of a 40 year old white guy if you want....
Posted by GurleyManandProud020
Rocky Face
Member since Sep 2012
484 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 3:37 pm to
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't the majority of these students also get the Pell Grant. You can't tell me these frickers are going hungry and make me believe it.

It's the entitlement attitude, it starts in high school or even earlier and these kids are given all kinds of benefits simply because they can play a sport and by the time they graduate high school and enter college these kids think that anything they want they are entitled to.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 4:34 pm to
Yes,the last real numbers I saw on Pell Grants and SEC FB players.The average roster had 45+ players receiving an average Pell Grant of $4,600. That was 2011

Plus stipend(off campus),emergency funds,clothing allowence
We've gone over this subject ad nauseum on this board.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63926 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:47 pm to
My "stipend" from 96 to 02 was $1200/m from my parents. Out of that came my rent (always split with a roommate or two in a ratty apartment in walking distance from school). Utilities came out of that, whatever the power and cable bill was, trash and water was always included in rent. My groceries came out of that. Any clothes I wanted to buy came out of that, blah blah blah.

My share of rent plus utilities was usually around 400/m. I ate super cheap, usual weekly grocery run was about $25 of chicken pot pies, pizza, and frozen chicken tenders and a bottle of 99 cent Kraft BBQ sauce. And Immodium AD, and ibuprofen. Sometimes toilet paper. Paper towels.

I also had a shitty beater chevy that would stall on right turns if you didn't gun it. So any gas, oil, basic maintenance came out of my stipend as well. Any larger repairs were taken care of separately, not out of my stipend.

So I ended up with about 200 a month in "spending money" if I wanted to buy drugs or take a girl on a date or buy new shoes or a CD or anything that wasn't necessary. For Spring Break every year, I'd save from Janurary and scrimp and save for 3 months so I could go down to PC or Destin with $500.



So the point is that I had 200 a month, or about 50 a week, in play money. About 2400 a year.

These football players who get to have 4600 of play Pell money (taxpayer money by the way) are kids I don't feel sorry for. They have twice as much play money as I did through college at UGA.

Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24011 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 7:57 pm to
quote:

A lot of these kids are broke and do not have spending money of much consequence. Much less than the average student I would dare say. When you are broke and young and you see all the money being spent on football at UGA and other schools. It is easy to feel the way these guys do....Feel free to judge this situation from the perspective of a 40 year old white guy if you want....



cry me a fricking river from 23 year old.
Posted by mondegreen
Member since Sep 2012
269 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:04 pm to
I don't think a lot of these guys realize how good they have it. Do they know how much their living arrangements would cost without UGA footing the bill?

And starving? Really? Where were all the starving athletes five, ten, twenty years ago? Is this a new problem?

If these kids think they are entitled to a paycheck beyond all of the perks and benefits they receive, maybe they need to unenroll and go train privately somewhere until they can take their shot at the NFL. They can pay for their own rent, electricity, water, trash pickup, groceries, insurance, and all the other bills that come along with being a grown up. Hell, they can even get a job while they are at it, what with no big bad university to tell them they can't work.

This shite's ridiculous, and trying to paint some 20-year-old crab leg stealing thug as a victim is indicitive of the mindset that is destroying our country.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:35 pm to
I think the sad part is yall sucked at football and are jealous of these kids. It is also odd that you worship them, yet at the same time feel morally, intellectually, and socially superior. They dont know a goddam thing about you, yet you know everything about them... maybe, if you didnt give a frick about them, then this whole charade would end.

Until then... you dont eat all the food on your plate while some poor bastard digs through a dumpster praying to baby jesus to find something half as shitty as what you just put in the trash...
..and guys a lot better at football than you piss away opportunities you would felate a goat to have...

some people get this and some dont...
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63926 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:37 pm to
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you dont eat all the food on your plate while some poor bastard digs through a dumpster praying to baby jesus to find something half as shitty as what you just put in the trash...



I clean my plate at every meal.

I don't never let NUTHIN go to waste.

You fat cock sucker and a black bastard.
Posted by mondegreen
Member since Sep 2012
269 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:01 pm to
We've been through this before. You have an intelligent point of view, and I respect that, even if I don agree with all of it.

And you don't know shite about my history of playing football or why I am a UGA fan, so save that silly shite for another day.

ETA: And by the way, I have educated and coached the very population of kids that UGA recruits to come play football. I've seen kids be on the cusp of making it in D1 and piss it all away, and I've seen ridiculously talented kids never make it out of middle school ball because they couldn't get their shite together. I've also seen what real poverty looks like, and I know how much generational poverty exists in UGA's backyard.
This post was edited on 5/2/14 at 7:15 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:08 pm to
Since when do all "employees" deserve to be compensated based on how much profit the "business" brings in?

If you want to compare it to a employer/employee relationship, an agreement of compensation was already agreed upon before the employees even made it to the campus. They agree to be compensated with a free education, housing, food, and other perks on top of an internship for a profession in the NFL.

These terms were not agreed upon based on profits earned. Since most athletic programs don't turn a profit, it would be silly to make that part of the deal.
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
1361 posts
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:26 pm to
I agree some of these athletes bring in a lot of money to the university and until ESPN and NCAA start giving these guys a piece of the pie you are going to have crap like this happening. I am not condoning stealing from a grocery store by and means but this thing is about to blow up and we are going to lose the sport we love to watch. I would rather pay these guys a little bit to keep them happy. Not everyone just the guys that contribute the most and play. No we are not going to pay other sports. I love Georgia but I have never been to a Gymnastics meet or softball game. Just the major three football, baseball, and basketball. I don't have the answers but we need to stop letting the NCAA take advantage of the athletes that we love to root for. Peterbuck you are completly right its funny how they ridicule the players for their thinking or actions but yet worship their play on the field
Posted by mondegreen
Member since Sep 2012
269 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:19 am to
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they ridicule the players for their thinking or actions but yet worship their play on the field


"Ridicule" and "worship" is straight hyperbole.

Maybe I'm an UGA alum who still wants to pull for his team. These guys represent UGA, and when they say and do dumb shite, I am not obliged to agree with them.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Feel free to judge this situation from the perspective of a 40 year old white guy if you want....



um..im 32...and fact is..only some are doing it...you never heard about Richard Samuel doing some dumb shite like that did you? no...cause it aint about what thy deserve and arent getting,...and it aint about us hardlegging over them either...its about the fact that they grew up looking for a handout and somebody has been kissing their arse since pop warner cause they can catch, run, jump, block, etc...it is about Drake and 2chainz and the entitlement culture of a certain gruop of a certain generation...


Jameis Winston is a TPOS...he raped a girl...and got away with it...won a Heisman...then stole some crab legs and is gonna get away with it...why?...cause that town down there is run by the university and they are his golden boy...but the fact of the matter is...he is just another idiot thug...

my point with my OP was that I hope we can curb that culture @UGA...it seems that as of late, it has been creeping into the program....

frick Jameis Winston...give me Bridgewater all day...well spoken gentleman who can ball too....THAT is a guy with an NFL future...bet you he never complained about Louisville not paying him...



Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Since when do all "employees" deserve to be compensated based on how much profit the "business" brings in?

If you want to compare it to a employer/employee relationship, an agreement of compensation was already agreed upon before the employees even made it to the campus. They agree to be compensated with a free education, housing, food, and other perks on top of an internship for a profession in the NFL.

These terms were not agreed upon based on profits earned. Since most athletic programs don't turn a profit, it would be silly to make that part of the deal.



this is an excellent point...
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

What Georgia player is this? Since when do all "employees" deserve to be compensated based on how much profit the "business" brings in? If you want to compare it to a employer/employee relationship, an agreement of compensation was already agreed upon before the employees even made it to the campus. They agree to be compensated with a free education, housing, food, and other perks on top of an internship for a profession in the NFL. These terms were not agreed upon based on profits earned. Since most athletic programs don't turn a profit, it would be silly to make that part of the deal.


They are not employees, just treated like they are employees. And they bring in a lot of money. Any intern that was directly responsible for that much revenue would be compensated significantly more or wouldnt be an intern very long....
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Any intern that was directly responsible for that much revenue would be compensated significantly more or wouldnt be an intern very long....


Not if its part of his intern agreement. Go look at stock broker trainees. They could land a billion dollar deal, commission goes to his boss. If they are good enough, they will get the job. Just like cfb.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63926 posts
Posted on 5/2/14 at 4:16 pm to
Poor analogy, too much boiler room for you.

When the billion dollar client calls, theyll ask for young jimmy. If jimmy isnt treated fairly, jimmy goes across the street, and so does the billion dollar client.

There is no relative course of action for cfb players.
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