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re: UGA & Eason passing against the mighty cocks

Posted on 10/10/16 at 6:58 am to
Posted by rawDAWG333
Knoxville
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 6:58 am to
Is this real life?
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:07 am to
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He seems rougher than I would have expected for a top recruit. He throws from his back foot a lot and rarely throws a good spiral. I'm not a QB coach but would think you'd have that ironed out in HS.


Yea, I have noticed the same. When Eason uses good mechanics and steps into his passes he can rifle the ball far down field. The problem is he doesn't have good form on most of his passes. In his defense some of this is due to lack of protection by our OL. This is why I prefer a mobile/dual-threat QB who can throw accurately while moving. Eason just doesn't look athletic enough to throw accurately while moving which isn't surprising at 6'5" 235lb.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:11 am to
Back foot is a mechanics thing, but it is also something you see a guy do who is feeling the pressure, even if he has perfect mechanics. Based on the fact that I have witnessed him throw some fantastic balls, my bet is a lot of it is in his head. This is coachable.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:16 am to
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Back foot is a mechanics thing, but it is also something you see a guy do who is feeling the pressure, even if he has perfect mechanics. Based on the fact that I have witnessed him throw some fantastic balls, my bet is a lot of it is in his head. This is coachable.


Agreed. We also have to remember that 2-3 of his interceptions this year were deflected off his receivers.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:16 am to
my god some of you are incredible. He's 18 years old. Who was the last pro style quarterback who came into the SEC and was firing on all cylinders from day one?

It's almost like everyone forgets how bad stafford was in his first year. But all of a sudden, everyone is chopping off their dick because he had a bad game in windy weather on the road against a team we always have trouble with on the road.

considering the talent gap between the SEC and his high school opponents, I'd say he's doing about as well as you could hope for. Once he is up to speed, y'all are gonna look back at these threads and feel like idiots.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:20 am to
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But all of a sudden, everyone


Really? Everyone? Aren't you overreacting as much as the one poster who started this thread? And, if you read the entire thread that poster has amended his thoughts.

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he had a bad game in windy weather


I think mechanics were the problem. Wind? no. South Carolina threw the ball quite well, and the wind had little to no effect on them.

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y'all are gonna look back at these threads and feel like idiots.


Y'all is plural. Welcome to the south.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:34 am to
yeah there was some hyperbole in there. But Kirby himself said it was windy on the field and causing some issues.

I say "y'all" - which is plural, you're correct - because even though it is just one person starting the threads, several others have been quick to point out that Eason's mechanics need work and that he isn't playing as well as a #1 QB recruit should. My point is just that he was always going to be a work in progress this year, even more so because he isn't a running QB who can mask those throwing issues.

He is going to be an outstanding quarterback, and even though he's looked rough, the positives far outweigh the negatives already, IMO. We were going to be 4-2 at this point no matter who started, and all this experience is only going to make him that much better that much sooner.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:44 am to
I'll mention it again, because it's more relevant than ever: Aaron Murray wasn't Aaron Murray, Georgia Bulldog Legend™ until his rJr year.

He'll get there. Errbody relax.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:44 am to
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yeah there was some hyperbole in there.


Not a problem. We all do it sometimes!

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But Kirby himself said it was windy on the field and causing some issues.


Problem with that explanation is we played on the same field as South carolina. Their passing line was:
36 Att
26 Comp
288 Yards

The wind didn't seem to bother them.

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I say "y'all" - which is plural, you're correct - because even though it is just one person starting the threads, several others have been quick to point out that Eason's mechanics need work


Actually, they do. I pointed out after the 2nd or 3rd game that he was badly underthrowing the ball and was afraid he had a tired or hurt arm. Several pointed out that he was throwing off his back foot. They were right. That is mechanics....but it can be fixed.

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My point is just that he was always going to be a work in progress this year, even more so because he isn't a running QB who can mask those throwing issues.


And this was a good and legitimate point. I just think he got over hyped and many were wanting to see more. This was amplified by that pass he threw last week at Tennessee. it was placed so perfectly people were hoping to see more. Like you said, though. he is a work in progress.

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He is going to be an outstanding quarterback, and even though he's looked rough, the positives far outweigh the negatives already, IMO.


No doubt. Everybody can see thta he is head and shoulders above Lambert, and the team is better with Eason at QB> Everybody is just anxious for us to find our footing and look like a really good team, and they know that it will start at QB.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 7:58 am to
haha dude this is what i'm talking about

link to fresh thread

"idk how this senior in high school has been playing, but is there a chance he starts over Eason?"
This post was edited on 10/10/16 at 8:00 am
Posted by wizatlanta
Cumming, GA
Member since Jan 2014
335 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:10 am to
One again I place the blame on our million dollar offensive coordinator for putting Eason in 2nd and 3rd and long obvious passing situations. For the life of me I cannot understand why he doesn't settle Eason in early in the game with quick outs, flanker screens and short passes to backs and tight ends.
That being said, a qb with the hype he comes to UGA with sure throws some poor passes and makes some poor reads. He needs to learn how to throw a more catchable ball when required and still throw those bullets that he's capable of when necessary.
Much of the criticism on this board today should be attributed to the OL. Seems they now are better run blockers than pass blockers and SC has only a couple of rushers we needed to worry about.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:13 am to
I just saw that thread. Fromm won't be any more consistent than Eason....and Eason will be more poised next year.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:14 am to
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The wind didn't seem to bother them.


Eason doesn't always throw a tight spiral. Throwing a spiral helps the ball cut through the wind. When it isn't a spiral, a strong wind can get ahold of it and take it away from its desired target.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 8:20 am to
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Eason doesn't always throw a tight spiral.


True. But id also doesn't explain the really bad passing we saw Saturday. I agree with the other poster....I think they should have done more tight end drags across the middle, and quick slants, bubble screens, etc. to try to get Eason in a rhythm.

It just looked to me like the whole game plan was geared away from the pass and toward the run game. Just guessing, I am thinking they anticipated higher winds, so they game planned away from any kind of passing game.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13164 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:17 am to
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Eason doesn't always throw a tight spiral. Throwing a spiral helps the ball cut through the wind. When it isn't a spiral, a strong wind can get ahold of it and take it away from its desired target.


Valid. Wind + wounded duck = flying duck
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 9:53 am to
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Valid. Wind + wounded duck = flying duck


Some of those flying ducks looked like rockets going over everybody's head. Eason has a few things he needs to work on. Accuracy. Touch. Those are things he can improve on with work, and I'm sure the coaches are working on them. At times he looks the receivers down, too.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/10/16 at 10:59 am to
I would imagine his dad has George Whitfield on speed dial. There should be a marked improvement in him that we see this off season, going into next year.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:55 am to
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The problem is he doesn't have good form on most of his passes.


He just needs to start breathing through his eyelids.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25577 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 11:58 am to
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True. But id also doesn't explain the really bad passing we saw Saturday. I agree with the other poster....I think they should have done more tight end drags across the middle, and quick slants, bubble screens, etc. to try to get Eason in a rhythm.


Throws across the middle are dangerous when the ball is sailing.
Plus... the best way to open up the middle for our running game is to attack the sidelines on passing routes.

I'm guessing here, but I do think that Eason missed throwing to McKenzie on the interception was an attempt to take the shorter throw (deep corner throws were sailing and Eason tried to muscle in the throw on a rope that got tipped up).

The easiest throw attempt that I didn't see was one to Christian Payne.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/10/16 at 12:02 pm to
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I would imagine his dad has George Whitfield on speed dial. There should be a marked improvement in him that we see this off season, going into next year.


I agree. It's clear he has talent, and I am VERY pleased to see how coll he is in pressure situations. That's huge for a freshman QB, and he has ice in his veins.
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