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re: Tray Matthews Transferring

Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:54 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 7:54 am to
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I'm just ready for the year one excuses to roll out. I'm sure they did all the same drills with Grantham. Then we just took Langley and put him on offense because they obviously couldn't make him a decent player in the backfield so what makes you think they are going to magically make Mauger and some of these other guys Serviceable. I just don't see it. This season is setting up to be really bad.

Step back from the ledge. It's all going to be ok
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:00 am to
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Step back from the ledge. It's all going to be ok


Sorry, I can't continue to listen to the sunshine pumping bullshite when 3 of our starters are playing for Louisville next season.

Sure, it will be ok. Just like 8-4 was ok this season.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:04 am to
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I hope the front 7 is ready to do pretty much everything


Someone gets it
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:07 am to
I'm not sunshine pumping. I gave a breakdown of the remaining personnel on the last page. It's not as bad as it seems. Matthews wasn't worth the trouble. He's going to be good, but not so good that he gets to be a constant distraction to everything the team is trying to accomplish.

There will be growing pains this year for sure. Fortunately, the quality of passing attacks we'll face this year will be mediocre at best, and we have a quality pass rush to mask some issues.

Attrition happens every offseason, especially when there are staff shakeups. This is magnified when the new staff has a totally different style than the previous one. The attrition is magnified further when you have shithead players.

What's happening now is a side effect of getting rid of Grantham (and TM and JHC being stupid). Do you want that guy back?
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
25659 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:08 am to
It's definitely "expect the worst & hope for the best" time now...
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 8:10 am
Posted by h0bnail
Member since Sep 2009
7389 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:15 am to
4 Connor Normans could have accomplished what that secondary did last year. I'm not going to fret too much about it.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:23 am to
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What's happening now is a side effect of getting rid of Grantham (and TM and JHC being stupid). Do you want that guy back?


Of course not

And I agree that we may be able to mask some of the issues but we are going to be lining up with a bunch of guys that have never played a down in the SEC. That's a legitimate concern.

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Attrition happens every offseason, especially when there are staff shakeups. This is magnified when the new staff has a totally different style than the previous one. The attrition is magnified further when you have shithead players.


This is the worst attrition at any one position that I can remember outside of the injuries at RB and WR last year. The problem here is this is normal at UGA and only UGA. The rest of the SEC and the rant laughs at us because their is some truth to it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86442 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:25 am to
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Prettyboy Floyd


Knowing every single thing we know now, if I was given the choice of:

1)Fully stocked, fully healthy secondary with Wiggins, JHC, Matthews, etc. and Grantham, or

2)What we're facing now and Pruitt,

I'd take 2.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:26 am to
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Sorry, I can't continue to listen to the sunshine pumping bull shite when 3 of our starters are playing for Louisville next season.

Sure, it will be ok. Just like 8-4 was ok this season.


This. We have some serious problems in the program. Everyone just forgot about them because they got handed a nice new shiny toy named Pruitt in the offseason. 8-4 again this year.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:28 am to
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Knowing every single thing we know now, if I was given the choice of:

1)Fully stocked, fully healthy secondary with Wiggins, JHC, Matthews, etc. and Grantham, or

2)What we're facing now and Pruitt,

I'd take 2.


This is another problem. We shouldn't have to choose between those 2. Teams that win championships have a combination of competent coaches AND skilled players.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86442 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:30 am to
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Just like 8-4 was ok this season.


Why do people continue to perpetuate this shitty line of thinking? If we were "ok" and perfectly content with how last season went, we wouldnt' have cleaned house on defense and went out and got the DC from teh national champions.

It blows my mind that our rivals have now somehow infiltrated some of our fans' minds and people continue to say "same old georgia, perfectly happy going 8-4 every year!"

That's bullshite and not even close to true.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:30 am to
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Knowing every single thing we know now, if I was given the choice of:

1)Fully stocked, fully healthy secondary with Wiggins, JHC, Matthews, etc. and Grantham, or

2)What we're facing now and Pruitt,

I'd take 2.


We take the lesser of two evils in this situation. We get a coach we all feel is better and the tradeoff is completly starting fresh at DB. It might not be pretty but I think we are all happy to see Grantham go. I just don't enjoy watching talented guy after talented guy go play for other teams when teams like Auburn and Bama would never get rid of them. Bama just let DJ Pettway back on the team and what that guy did was awful. They win at any cost and they have titles to prove it.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:31 am to
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And I agree that we may be able to mask some of the issues but we are going to be lining up with a bunch of guys that have never played a down in the SEC. That's a legitimate concern.

I agree that it's a concern, but the season isn't lost. Far from it.
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This is the worst attrition at any one position that I can remember outside of the injuries at RB and WR last year. The problem here is this is normal at UGA and only UGA. The rest of the SEC and the rant laughs at us because their is some truth to it.

I'm not sure if you paid attention to Saban's arrival at Bama, but there was some serious purging going on then. Coaches who come into poisonous environments tend to try to clean house. I look at our secondary as kind of a mini version of that. Neither JHC or TM were purged without cause.

I don't worry about what the rant thinks because most posters on the rant are unqualified to have an opinion on anything.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86442 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:31 am to
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This is another problem. We shouldn't have to choose between those 2


Well unfortunately we can't just push a button like in a video game and be presented with 50 different choices for what to do next. Our options after December were basically 1)continue with the status quo, or 2)make a change to get better.

Those were our only options, and we did #2.

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Teams that win championships have a combination of competent coaches AND skilled players


Our coaching staff top to bottom is right now as good as its been since 2004.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:32 am to
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It blows my mind that our rivals have now somehow infiltrated some of our fans' minds and people continue to say "same old georgia, perfectly happy going 8-4 every year!"


No one has infiltrated my mind. No one was happy going 8-4. We had a built in excuse for last season.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86442 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:34 am to
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I just don't enjoy watching talented guy after talented guy go play for other teams when teams like Auburn and Bama would never get rid of them


Of course, that's normal and I imagine everyone feels the same. It's almost like a personal insult. But look at the bigger picture. Pruitt isn't dumb, he knows exactly what he's doing, as proven by his resume. If he didn't personally feel that these guys were worth keeping around, then gtfo. Would you rather know that we've got guys 100% committed to doing things exactly how we want, or highly ranked guys who want to loaf in practice and get in trouble?

It's funny, for YEARS our fans kept saying "Saban processes players every year. I wish we would do that! We're always the nice guy though so we'd never do something like that". So now here we are kicking off the bad apples who arent' buying into the program, ie processing them, and people complain about it.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:35 am to
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I'm not sure if you paid attention to Saban's arrival at Bama, but there was some serious purging going on then. Coaches who come into poisonous environments tend to try to clean house. I look at our secondary as kind of a mini version of that. Neither JHC or TM were purged without cause.


If we have that kind of turn around and the environment becomes a winning one that would be great. I am all for it and maybe that is the line of thinking by the coaching staff. That being said, Bama had growing pains.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:36 am to
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Our coaching staff top to bottom is right now as good as its been since 2004.


I hope you're right. We know Pruitt can recruit, but the jury is out on him as a DC. Not knocking him, just saying he has a small body of work.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:37 am to
What hobnail said.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15656 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 8:38 am to
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It's funny, for YEARS our fans kept saying "Saban processes players every year. I wish we would do that! We're always the nice guy though so we'd never do something like that". So now here we are kicking off the bad apples who arent' buying into the program, ie processing them, and people complain about it.


Bama processes guys that can't make the 2 deep and fills the roster with more 5 stars. We process guys and we bring guys from offense to play defense. What Bama does is ensure from top the bottom they have the best 85 in the country. We are doing something completely different here.
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