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re: The Senator hits another one out of the park in this blog post...

Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:59 am to
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 12/14/14 at 11:59 am to
Yep, but objectively I wonder how different their reactive strategy is than ours. Maybe what we need is some big time boosters to come forward and say something like this: OK, I willing to donate/invest big bucks toward UGA winning a NC in football if you will spend the donation on just that President Morehead. I would be interested in their response. Would they turn down a 3 million per year donation with strings attached?
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39992 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:04 pm to
Most people feel that way but that's not how it works.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

What's grating is that the quotes seem to be both tone-deaf to what is bugging the fans and ignorant to how the current spending market is working. But short of changing their philosophy, I really don't know what else McGarity could say that would be better here.
I just think he struggles with public communications honestly. When there's enough criticism out there, you can't just brush off peoples' concerns. And yea, it's a rough situation for him and I'm not going to sit here and even pretend I'd do any better at all. That's one thing I hate about public positions like that and one reason I'd never want one, you may very well be right but, unfortunately, how the message is delivered becomes almost as important as the message itself. Once it becomes a recurring theme and gets attached to you (like being "cheap" has to him), it's near impossible to shake it. Just look at Bobo for instance, he is still shat on all the time for his inconsistent playcalling early in his career. It's not fair but it is what it is.

It did kind of make me laugh that he says he is insulated and doesn't hear any of the criticism yet he basically rattles off the exact things people criticize him for. I agree that they're getting their bang for their buck, probably more so than any other SEC team honestly, but if that's what they're after as a top priority then they need to just admit it. Don't say you want championship caliber teams then rattle off several championship caliber teams and say that you don't spend as much as them because they've had more success. Especially when that's what you're being criticized for. I think he knows that wouldn't be the best selling point at the next fundraiser though.

TL;DR: how you communicate is almost as important as what you communicate and if getting your bang for your buck is your top priority, just admit it.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:00 pm to
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TL;DR: how you communicate is almost as important as what you communicate and if getting your bang for your buck is your top priority, just admit it.


The old saying: actions speak louder than words applies for those who listen to the actions.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:01 pm to
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What we need is some big time boosters


Not sure that we have big time sugar daddies beyond
Leebern...we do have some very wealthy alumni but
spending their money on UGA FB is not their highest
priority.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:05 pm to
Yea I agree. I'm just saying that with social media and 24/7 coverage etc things take on a life of their own from the get-go and unfortunately, a lot of things get lost for the message. Hell, people like us on here contribute to that. Trust me, I don't like the emphasis on controlling the message rather than just doing the right thing but it is what it is, most politicians live off of it. Granted, I do think UGA is being judged on actions more than anything, but still.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

The Georgia Way morality play is a smokescreen to appease the contributing supporters without having to spend the money necessary to operate championship athletic programs.


This comment wins. Anyone who honestly
believes we are doing things the "right way" is kidding himself. It's a front to maintain status quo.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:21 pm to
How so?Makes no sense at all...are you saying that kicking
off JHC,Shaq Wiggens,Trey Mathews and Taylor is somehow
a "smoke screen" to mask our AD's ineptness or cheapness?
WTF?

AU,Bama,SC and UT all contact kids that we kick out.
When was the last time UGA signed or contacted a kid
who got kicked out of another SEC school?


This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:40 pm to
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quote: John Calipari is dead on: “Administrations win championships.” Sadly, I’m in the camp that believes that McGarity is doing exactly the job he’s asked to do. Until the old guard, stuffed shirt, scriveners and misers in B-M die off and are replaced by progressively-minded folks who understand the nature of the modern CFB landscape (the “arms race”), the The Georgia Way will be alive and well. ADGM will continue to do his best Scrooge McDuck impression, high-diving from the vault, spitting a stream of gold doubloons like a fountain. Red Panties aside, I think Damon Evans was our best shot at keeping up with the SEC Joneses from a culture standpoint. Right now, we’re no better than facing a room full of Montgomery Burnses who are making the calls on the IPF, coaching salaries, etc. Paying our current coach(es) more isn’t going to accomplish anything right now, anyway. They’ve already shown they can come within striking distance of a NC appearance (’02, ’07, ’12) with B-M holding the status quo, so you’ll never convince the AD’s office that they’re doing anything wrong – we’ve just been unlucky in that regard. The problem with most of the seasons where Lady Luck has appeared to spurn the Dawgs can often be attributed to the team not being adequately prepared for all 14 games. Even when they fire on all cylinders and curb stomp a Top 10 Auburn team, they come out flat against USCjr and send the band & cheerleaders out to play against the Gators. THAT is a deficiency in coaching. I’m pro-Richt, historically, but I know that the killer instinct that ignites teams to win championships isn’t there to the level that it needs to be, because after all, our HC is very open about the fact that “there’s more important things in life than football.” The galling subtext of McGarity’s (paraphrased) “Of course we don’t have what LSU, Bama & Auburn have – we don’t spend that kind of money” is that they’re totally fine with 9-3, 8-4 seasons if it keeps a steady tide of cash rolling in. Once something puts a dent in the bottom line, then it will generate enough attention to warrant DISCUSSING changes. All the while, our neighbors to every side will continue finding ways to stack crystal footbalils. (I don’t know what to call the God-awful CFP trophy. The Belk Bowl champ’s trophy is more elite-looking than the gold-toned parentheses monstrosity).


Evans was even a bigger puppet than McGarity.
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted by rb
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
5633 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:51 pm to
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Not sure that we have big time sugar daddies beyond Leebern...we do have some very wealthy alumni but spending their money on UGA FB is not their highest priority.


LINK


Dr Harrison told my father out of his own mouth he'd offered UGA a significant contribution towards UGAA. Asked that it be spent immediately on new construction/renovation and that his family be given some preferential parking and a suite for the foreseeable future. He wasn't happy with the answer back and MCG got the lot. (76 million)
This post was edited on 12/14/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted by ohmdawg
tZone
Member since Oct 2014
686 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

How so?Makes no sense at all...are you saying that kicking
off JHC,Shaq Wiggens,Trey Mathews and Taylor is somehow
a "smoke screen" to mask our AD's ineptness or cheapness?
WTF?

AU,Bama,SC and UT all contact kids that we kick out.
When was the last time UGA signed or contacted a kid
who got kicked out of another SEC school?


Jan Kemp had offspring?
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

quote:
The Georgia Way morality play is a smokescreen to appease the contributing supporters without having to spend the money necessary to operate championship athletic programs.


This comment wins. Anyone who honestly
believes we are doing things the "right way" is kidding himself. It's a front to maintain status quo.


This might be true to some extent but there's no doubt that UGA has higher ethical standards regarding athletics. Blame or congratulate Jan Kemp or whoever but it is what it is.

It is also a reality that UGA admins have chosen to focus on academics as a much higher priority that football. They would likely argue that if they had more money to spend aka donations, then they would be able funnel more into the football program. In light of their budgeting priorities, I could not really argue with this perspective. They are spending at a level balancing priorities which has kept our university profitable. Our football program has been competitive under Richt and close to championship level on several occasions/seasons.

It appears we need more investment in the football program to get it over the hump to consistently compete for championships. However, given the current budget, what funding needs to be reduced in order increase the budget for football? Give their priorities, it won't be anything academically related. So again, I would suggest that we need an infusion of cash from a new source with football strings attached.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

Dr Harrison told my father out of his own mouth he'd offered UGA a significant contribution towards UGAA. Asked that it be spent immediately on new construction/renovation and that his family be given some preferential parking and a suite for the foreseeable future. He wasn't happy with the answer back and MCG got the lot. (76 million)



There you go. UGA admins want the money with no strings attached. And frankly, Dr. Harrison likely made the more beneficial choice regardless. There are plenty of more worthy ways to invest 76 million than in UGA football......
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:27 pm to
quote:

And frankly, Dr. Harrison likely made the more beneficial choice regardless.
Yea, I can't argue with him. Would have no problem giving UGA athletics some but if I was giving a ton of money, it'd be primarily to the academics side of UGA and MCG. That money he gave is going to help MCG a lot with offering scholarships (and they really need more of those). Sounds like MCG was fine with there being strings attached too because I'm pretty sure Dr. Harrison was pretty specific with how it could be used.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Blame or congratulate Jan Kemp


Don't think the whole Jan Kemp fiasco has anything to
do with our current issues of kicking players out for drug
and disciplinary problems.Pretty sure it goes back to the mid
2000's with multiple player arrests (some of it was BS open
container infractions) but others were a little more serious.

Anyway, the narrative was that the program was out of control
and CMR was soft and wasn't doing much about what was going
on.He was also getting hammered and by the AJC,ESPN etc on
what seemed liked a daily basis.

I believe all of what's going on today is an overreaction by CMR and
the admin to what was going on back then.They all had rabbit ears
to the publicity UGA was getting.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:06 pm to
We had thugs before all those kids were kicked off, and I promise you we still have thugs now. We have bagmen; we have kids that do drugs; we have kids that cheat in school. Kick three guys off the team for smoking pot; I'll show you three more who smoked and haven't gotten caught. Booting the pot smokers off doesn't make us superior, it makes us dumb. Our roster is filled with pot smokers either way.

Not to mention inconsistencies over the years. Montez Robinson was arrested for domestic battery three times before finally getting kicked off the team. Three. What makes domestic battery a more agreeable offense than smoking dope? And crowell was caught with weed before the Florida game a few years back and his suspension was conveniently pushed back to the next weekend when we played St Mary school for the blind.

The Georgia Way is a fictional tale penned by McGarity where Richt is the main character.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:26 pm to
McGarity is the mouthpiece, the Georgia way runs throughout the program at every level
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 3:44 pm to
This post is full of stupid not sure where to start?

If our roster is full of pot smokers why are we kicking
off starters?Couldn't we have found someone else besides
JHC to kick off?

Why did we sit TG when A&M and FSU basically gave the
NCAA the finger for just about the same infraction?

How come we don't recruit kids that kicked out of
other SEC schools?Our competition certainly does
when we kick out players.

If you don't think we have higher standards for disciplinary
issues and failed drug test than just about every other SEC
school you're delusional

Are you saying that we're covering up failed drug test?
Domestic battery issues?How come John Taylor got
kicked off the team if that's the case?BTW he is being
recruited by Bama for next season.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 4:00 pm to
Didn't Georgia come up only 5 yards short against Bama two years ago for a trip to the MNC game?

This was done under the same regime and amidst all of the things you people are whining about in this thread wasn't it?

I'm not saying there aren't legitimate criticisms, but this attitude that Georgia will never be able to get out of its own way to succeed sounds pretty foolish in light of recent history, imo.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24013 posts
Posted on 12/14/14 at 4:08 pm to
Idk Jeff, if Richt had 20 more analysts Murray probably doesn't get that pass tipped and we win.
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