Started By
Message
The problem with coordinators
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:23 pm
There are many talented coordinators out there who can build a great defense or a great offense. That's great but that's not exactly what you need out of a head coach. We've had great offenses and great defenses under richt and if we kept him, that would have continued. What we need is someone who can instill consistency that we've lacked. We shouldn't have been in the rebuilding state we've been in the past few years and we need someone who will go beyond the Xs and Os to be an assertive leader. You don't always see that with coordinators. They've become so set in managing their unit to realize the big picture. Muschamp is a perfect example of this at Florida.
Just my two cents and I don't know if anyone cares what I think but whatever.
Just my two cents and I don't know if anyone cares what I think but whatever.
5
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:29 pm to athenslife101
Agreed. I'm reminded of Josh McDaniels in the NFL.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:31 pm to athenslife101
Every whore was a virgin and every Head Coach was an assistant.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:33 pm to Peter Buck
True, but it's a growin experience. It's sink or swim trial when they make the switch from coordinator to HC and it'd be much better to find out if they're going to sink before they become the head coach of our program.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:34 pm to athenslife101
Agree to some extent. But Kirby was always one of those guys who acted like he had the "next job". He's no Coach Boom- nor is he a scheme wonk. He's not a friend by any stretch but I've spent a few minutes with him early on in his coaching career, and can tell you he seems to have the God-given skillset to manage the HC job. The brains?? Don't know....guess we'll find out!
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:36 pm to WorkinDawg
That's good to hear. I wasn't talking about him specifically. Just about the idea in general.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 9:39 pm to athenslife101
Man, you ain't handling this transition well. Cracker said it very well, it all starts somewhere. That said,
Yes but rarely, if ever, at the same time. You had great defenses under BVG but our offense was pretty meh. Then our offense began to pick up post BVG only to watch the defense erode to a puddle of shite. Now our defense is improving but we have no offense. Which leads to
Based on what? During BVG he called plays and people forget he gave playcalling to Bobo because people bitched and one of the things they bitched about was our offense not being terribly stout. He then made a lazy hire with Willie and held on to him to long. We then went with Grantham (admittedly the like 4th choice) which was a mistake. Then he replaces Bobo with Schotty.
He only hired one good coordinator and that was Pruitt.
Agreed but
I mean, yea, there are bad hires out there. You also have previous HCs like Chizik, Nutt, Golden who couldn't do it either.
As Peter said, coaches start somewhere. And Smart wasn't taught by Saban, he saw how he built a powerhouse. He knows what needs to be done in Athens. Whether he comes or if UGA or McGarity gives him free reign is yet to be seen but I really do believe that man can institute the same blueprint Alabama has
quote:
We've had great offenses and great defenses under richt
Yes but rarely, if ever, at the same time. You had great defenses under BVG but our offense was pretty meh. Then our offense began to pick up post BVG only to watch the defense erode to a puddle of shite. Now our defense is improving but we have no offense. Which leads to
quote:
if we kept him, that would have continued.
Based on what? During BVG he called plays and people forget he gave playcalling to Bobo because people bitched and one of the things they bitched about was our offense not being terribly stout. He then made a lazy hire with Willie and held on to him to long. We then went with Grantham (admittedly the like 4th choice) which was a mistake. Then he replaces Bobo with Schotty.
He only hired one good coordinator and that was Pruitt.
quote:
What we need is someone who can instill consistency that we've lacked. We shouldn't have been in the rebuilding state we've been in the past few years and we need someone who will go beyond the Xs and Os to be an assertive leader.
Agreed but
quote:
You don't always see that with coordinators. They've become so set in managing their unit to realize the big picture. Muschamp is a perfect example of this at Florida.
I mean, yea, there are bad hires out there. You also have previous HCs like Chizik, Nutt, Golden who couldn't do it either.
As Peter said, coaches start somewhere. And Smart wasn't taught by Saban, he saw how he built a powerhouse. He knows what needs to be done in Athens. Whether he comes or if UGA or McGarity gives him free reign is yet to be seen but I really do believe that man can institute the same blueprint Alabama has
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:00 pm to Damn Good Dawg
quote:
Yes but rarely, if ever, at the same time
That's a major point I was making. Goes to the whole leadership/ consistency thing.
quote:
He only hired one good coordinator and that was Pruit
Meh, he hired some coordinators that had success. But again, he couldn't keep them performing to high levels and that's on him.
And yes, there are bad hires from the HC ranks. I would say that there is some risk mitigated.
quote:
Man, you ain't handling this transition well.
Lol, I'm fine. Just throwing out some random thoughts. I just had a big job interview that I'm anxious about and I'm studying for grad school tests that I'm taking soon so the HC search has been some nice escapism.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:02 pm to athenslife101
HC search would distract me too much. Hell, its hard to get work done.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:04 pm to Damn Good Dawg
quote:
but I really do believe that man can institute the same blueprint Alabama has
This is the biggest fallacy. When has UGA EVER gone all in like Bama? IT hasn't…e.v.e.r. So why do you possibly think it will suddenly give Smart another $25mill every year?
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:10 pm to athenslife101
As one article aptly pointed out, UGA has come a long way since hiring Richt as an OC mainly due to the strides Richt made in developing our program. At this point, UGA is in the least a top 10 coaching job and if we can't hire an proven HC with more potential than CMR then hell we should just rehire Richt. 
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:17 pm to SoGaFan
UGA has already broken from the norm by firing Richt. Is the money wants change I can't help but think they are ready to commit and make the school commit
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:18 pm to SoGaFan
quote:
UGA ever gone all in...
Because it's now ADGM's baby and he will being throwing money at the program like Chief in a whore house because he knows his arse is on the line. His seat is hot and that's why he made the move he did yesterday IMHO.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:19 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Considering the first thing they did was to zero in on the cheapest candidate, I think you are likely wrong.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:21 pm to SoGaFan
quote:
Considering the first thing they did was to zero in on the cheapest candidate, I think you are likely wrong.
What if the cheapest is also the best? Not saying I think so, but....
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:26 pm to SoGaFan
Doesn't mean he's the worst. Spending money just to do it isn't always the best. And I bet he's got a higher asking price than you're thinking. Dude already makes like 2 mil.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:26 pm to SoGaFan
quote:
Considering the first thing they did was to zero in on the cheapest candidate, I think you are likely wrong.
This. You can bet that our admins are NOT all in to pay a big time coach big bucks to come to UGA and win a NC. They have given McGarity enough rope to hang himself and will save money by hiring a DC as a HC. If Smart bombs and our other sports don't improve, McGarity might well be the one looking for a job.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:27 pm to WorkinDawg
Except, he is nowhere near the best of the possible candidates. He is the easiest and the cheapest, and may end up being fine. It is just that simple when it comes to Georgia.
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:27 pm to SoGaFan
Who would you prefer? I'd rather Herman but looks like he's waiting on Texas
Posted on 11/30/15 at 10:31 pm to SoGaFan
quote:
Except, he is nowhere near the best of the possible candidates. He is the easiest and the cheapest, and may end up being fine. It is just that simple when it comes to Georgia.
Ignoring $$, who is the coach we should bring in? Who do you think we are ignoring so we can go cheap with Kirby?
Page 1 of 2
Latest Georgia News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News