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re: Take aways from G-Day

Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:25 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:25 am to
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Does he have a bigger upside than Park? Park looks like he has everything Ramsey does, plus he speaks like Jameis Winston and Cardale Jones. I think we can all agree on that being an important attribute to winning a national championship.

Obviously I'm not at practice everyday, but it seems obvious to me based on how reps are being divided up that Ramsey (and Bauta) has separated himself from Park, unlike Bauta vs. Ramsey.

My guess is that turnovers are an even bigger concern with Park than they are with Ramsey.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:30 am to
Bauta is inexperienced but it's not like Ramsey has played a lot and you're right, bauta may turn the ball over too, but I feel like he has bought into the idea of being careful with the ball more so than Ramsey. I'm just basing that off of scrimmage stats and it's obviously just my opinion but if you look back at last year that style of play worked well. Hutson never lost us a game, the defense and play calling mistakes did. If our defense can preform consistently and our run game is as effective as it should be I think caring for the football is more important than being able to make all the throws. Plus, I'm not convinced Ramsey is that much ahead of bauta in that area...against college defenses at least.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25875 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:43 am to
I think the offense would be fine with Bauta. Not great, but fine. UGA could win games with him for sure.

The reason I want Ramsey to win the job is because I think that gives UGA's offense the chance to be more than that.

FTR, there's a big arm talent difference according to everyone who's seen them both play a lot. It's obviously tough for fans to see that with a limited viewing window, but there's a reason Ramsey was very highly rated in HS.
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:57 am to
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I think the offense would be fine with Bauta. Not great, but fine. UGA could win games with him for sure.



Mason 2.0


I think we know how that will work out.


I'd rather go with Ramsey even with his inconsistencies. Bigger up side and possibly the future for '16 and '17.

Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3025 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:07 am to
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Mason 2.0


Ramsey may win the job, but I don't see Bauta as a Mason clone. He's a better runner and his arm is stronger than Mason's. Plus, he made some plays on Saturday by avoiding a heavy rush and finding a receiver in a hurry. I won't say Mason never did that, but it wasn't his strong suit.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4138 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:08 am to
I say let them compete and let the coaches decide. WTF can we do?
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24013 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:11 am to
Sit around And act like we know what we're talking about
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 9:56 am to
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FTR, there's a big arm talent difference according to everyone who's seen them both play a lot.


I can see that being true but I still don't think that has a huge impact at the college level. Mett had more arm talent than Murray. Brantley had more arm talent than Tebow. With all that talent in the backfield, Bauta would add a legit run threat anytime we ran an option play. Plus he makes good decisions.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25875 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:02 am to
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Mett had more arm talent than Murray.

Murray had great arm talent for a college QB. He would have been the #1 pick if he was 6'4". Mett also turned out to be a very good QB. Bauta doesn't compare favorably to either. Ramsey might.
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Brantley had more arm talent than Tebow.

Totally different system
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Bauta would add a legit run threat anytime we ran an option play.

Unlikely to be a major part of the offense. UGA is picking a QB for its system, not the other way around.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:12 am to
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Murray had great arm talent for a college QB.


He did, Mett still had more.

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Bauta doesn't compare favorably to either.


I haven't seen him play enough to see if he compares to anyone favorably. I've read people here call him a poor man's Tebow but I don't see that. Other than maybe his work ethic and willingness to take a hit.

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Totally different system


Tebow would've started regardless of the system. He's a winner, arm talent or not.

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Unlikely to be a major part of the offense. UGA is picking a QB for its system, not the other way around.


Bobo ran it a lot with Mason. New coordinator, new system so it may not be run this season.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 10:57 am to
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I don't see Bauta as a sure thing in regard to the turnover thing at all. He literally hasn't taken one meaningful snap at UGA. We have no idea what happens when the bullets start flying, to be very cliche. Frankly, I'd rather see Ramsey because I think we're going to have QB growing pains with either option. Unless Bauta really separates himself, I'd rather groom Ramsey to be the QB on a team with a lot of pieces to make a championship run in 2016. I don't know if Bauta's talented enough to get us there. We don't have elite WRs that will break open for him, so we need a QB with the arm talent to throw guys open.


Yea, I get all of that. All valid points, especially not knowing how Bauta will perform under pressure. I guess I see him offering more in terms of security because he doesn't rely on a cannon.

ALSO, I guess I kind of like him because he reminds me of that KSU QB a while back. Not a great passer but a helluva runner. I think Bauta in the read option could be big for us.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7002 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 11:11 am to
I think Bauta gives UGA the best chance go far but I'm not too happy with any of the QB's.

Hutson Mason was tremendously underrated. The two most important QB attributes have always been accuracy and ball security and Mason had those qualities.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 6:31 pm to
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I think Bauta gives UGA the best chance go far but I'm not too happy with any of the QB's.

The grim reality I fear is that it's not so much that Bauta is excelling or doing anything special to stay in the QB race, it's just that Ramsey has regressed under the new system.... and has fallen backwards giving the impression that Bauta has moved forward.

Ramsey would of been announced the starter under Bobo by now.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3025 posts
Posted on 4/15/15 at 6:46 pm to
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Ramsey would of been announced the starter under Bobo by now.


You may be right about that, I've wondered the same. But, that doesn't mean Ramsey has necessarily regressed under Schotty. Bauta works very hard according to his teammates and coaches. Maybe he's getting a deserved shot with the ones and his hard work is paying off.

Bauta may or may not win the job, but it seems like he'll make the others work hard to beat him. If they hit the downtown circuit this summer while Faton is watching film and staying late for a few extra reps with his receivers, I like his chances come fall.
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