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re: Take aways from G-Day
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:31 am to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 4/14/15 at 8:31 am to Crowknowsbest
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I don't think they're too small really.
Neither do I. They certainly weren't being pushed around by the o-line. I don't know if that's because of solid d-line play or because the o-line is solid. There were definitely more large holes for GurChuChel during the season last year than at the G-Day game. I'm getting my Disney on and saying it's the d-line.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:03 am to SneakyWaff1es
Looks like ILB could become a strength instead of a weakness... Looks like Chuks is moving to OLB & we'll have Carter, Kimbrough, Natrez, Ganus & Rankin in the rotation at ILB...
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:07 am to dallasga6
I don't see Rankin cracking that rotation, tbh. Roquan Smith will play though
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:40 pm to Crowknowsbest
Finally got to watch G Day. Good to see Mitchell haulin arse again. I liked Turman and think he'll be good for inevitable season attrition. I didn't like seeing Theus and Houston getting abused but I mean Jenkins and Carter are obviously bad asses. Still, they will be facing their fair share of good arse players and I'd like to see better pass protection. I thought last year the OL was great at pass blocking but meh at pass blocking so that concerned me.
As for QB, yea, don't see Park being the guy. And I am team Bauta. Ramsey still gives me the same feeling he did before last season and then during the season. I think Bauta is the serviceable guy who won't hurt us as much as the Ramsey and could add the read option element. That with hopefully stellar TE play and sick group of RBs could be awesome.
Also, someone mentioned the idea of splitting TEs and then pulling them in for power formation during a no huddle and that excites me. Love it. That is the multiple kind of sets that Kevin Wilson's OU offenses thrived on and I love that. Add in Bauta's read option and I think that'd be lovely.
As for QB, yea, don't see Park being the guy. And I am team Bauta. Ramsey still gives me the same feeling he did before last season and then during the season. I think Bauta is the serviceable guy who won't hurt us as much as the Ramsey and could add the read option element. That with hopefully stellar TE play and sick group of RBs could be awesome.
Also, someone mentioned the idea of splitting TEs and then pulling them in for power formation during a no huddle and that excites me. Love it. That is the multiple kind of sets that Kevin Wilson's OU offenses thrived on and I love that. Add in Bauta's read option and I think that'd be lovely.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:53 pm to dallasga6
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Looks like Chuks is moving to OLB
Chuks might get more pt than I was expecting at OLB. Floyd looks like the shoulder surgery has set him back a bit. His arms didn't look much bigger than mine, he needs to really hit the weights when he's healthy.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 9:56 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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And I am team Bauta.
I am team Bauta now. I hate to get judgmental about it, because they'll probably choose somebody else, but Faton is the man IMO.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:26 pm to wdhalgren
It's Ramsey. And it isn't close. At least not to the ones making the decisions. Fauta will be important, but only as the top backup. Now, if Ramsey comes in and shites the bed early and often, Bauta will see his minutes (kind of like Cox did for Stafford on occasions), but Ramsey is and will be the #1 QB this year.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:29 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Also, someone mentioned the idea of splitting TEs and then pulling them in for power formation during a no huddle and that excites me. Love it. That is the multiple kind of sets that Kevin Wilson's OU offenses thrived on and I love that. Add in Bauta's read option and I think that'd be lovely.
That would be me and I always remember 2008 OU absolutely killing people with their ability to play several different formations without substituting. They scored 99 TDs that season.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:43 pm to VADawg
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Floyd looks like the shoulder surgery has set him back a bit. His arms didn't look much bigger than mine, he needs to really hit the weights when he's healthy.
The dude hasn't been able to lift since late December, of course his arms are gonna be smaller. Hocke and staff have 3 solid months to get him where he needs to be for fall camp
Posted on 4/14/15 at 10:53 pm to GoldenDawg
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It's Ramsey. And it isn't close.
Maybe so, they've seen them compete. Based on what I've seen, Bauta looked a guy that could take control of this run based offense and make it work to perfection. It certainly didn't look like a Cox vs Stafford type of comparison last Saturday.
Posted on 4/14/15 at 11:34 pm to wdhalgren
Yeah, Cox and Stafford are a bad comparison to Ramsey and Bauta, but Ramsey is being groomed and fully expected to take the helm come Fall. He'll make some mistakes, but so will Bauta and Ramsey can make throws Bauta simply can't. So Ramsey's the man. I do think Bauta will get his minutes, but not a lot unless Ramsey gets injured or just really sucks uncontrollably when the season starts.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 6:34 am to GoldenDawg
None of the three played well enough to really separate themselves from the other two but Bauta played the best plus he gives a pretty legit option in a read option. Ramsey just isn't that impressive to me outside of arm strength and he really doesn't have much more, if any, than Park in that area.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 6:48 am to SneakyWaff1es
TBH, I thought Ramsey was clearly the best. It's great that Bauta is willing to check it down, but at some point you have to stress a defense in the back end and out wide.
I thought Ramsey really only made one bad decision, but it was 3rd and a million and he chucked it up down field. It was basically a punt
I thought Ramsey really only made one bad decision, but it was 3rd and a million and he chucked it up down field. It was basically a punt
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:10 am to Crowknowsbest
I'll have to watch it again. I thought Bauta tossed it downfield a few times. Park threw it downfield well, Scott-Wesley forgot how to catch. He also played against the 2s so it doesn't really matter.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:25 am to SneakyWaff1es
I don't think Park's really in the hunt for the job. The guy's clearly talented but needs more development.
I really like Bauta. The guy clearly works his arse off to make the most out of his talent. I wish all UGA's players had that drive. That said, talent counts for a lot, and Ramsey is much more gifted in that area. I don't see the supposed mental deficiency with him that others seem to. Are there things to improve? Sure, but give me the QB with NFL ability over the heady upperclassmen.
It's not like we've ever seen Bauta produce at the SEC level. If it was going to be his job, he should have clearly won it by now like Mason did.
I really like Bauta. The guy clearly works his arse off to make the most out of his talent. I wish all UGA's players had that drive. That said, talent counts for a lot, and Ramsey is much more gifted in that area. I don't see the supposed mental deficiency with him that others seem to. Are there things to improve? Sure, but give me the QB with NFL ability over the heady upperclassmen.
It's not like we've ever seen Bauta produce at the SEC level. If it was going to be his job, he should have clearly won it by now like Mason did.
This post was edited on 4/15/15 at 7:27 am
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:38 am to Crowknowsbest
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VADawg
I think we've talked about our Kevin Wilson love in the past. If Schotty can mimic that, even just a little bit, we will be absolutely rock solid. It is just so damn hard to adjust when you can't sub people in but you have to go from facing power to a spread formation. We FINALLY have the talent to run it in terms of a versatile group of backs (really, when have we had 3 dudes who are as effective in the air as on the ground) and what at least looks poised to be one of Richt's best groups of TEs yet.
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whlgreen or however you spell it
I am with ya. I feel like Bauta is better suited RIGHT NOW for a run-based attack
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Crowknowsbest
See, I will concede that Ramsey easily has the most upside. If the kid can hone his skill he can make passes like he did to Reggie Davis with regularity. And that would be great. That paired with our run attack would be absolutely filthy.
I just worry about his turnover potential. I worry that about his development. Yea, Schotty and co have the call and it's better they do than some jack arse fan like myself. If we are grooming him to be the QB for the next few years, which is likely the case, then we probably need to go with him. I just keep thinking that Bauta is kind of like Mason in that his highs arent as high but his lows won't be as low and that gives the team a better chance to win right now. And then we can roll out Eason right away and start all over.
But that is probably unrealistic. I just wince a lot when #12 throws the ball.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 7:39 am to Crowknowsbest
We haven't seen Ramsey preform at that level either though. With our run game we don't need a QB that takes a lot of risks, even if some of the throws are completed. Bauta reminds me of those bama QBs that are smart with the football. Plus, he's a fricking leader and grinder.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:07 am to Damn Good Dawg
I don't see Bauta as a sure thing in regard to the turnover thing at all. He literally hasn't taken one meaningful snap at UGA. We have no idea what happens when the bullets start flying, to be very cliche.
Frankly, I'd rather see Ramsey because I think we're going to have QB growing pains with either option. Unless Bauta really separates himself, I'd rather groom Ramsey to be the QB on a team with a lot of pieces to make a championship run in 2016. I don't know if Bauta's talented enough to get us there. We don't have elite WRs that will break open for him, so we need a QB with the arm talent to throw guys open.
Frankly, I'd rather see Ramsey because I think we're going to have QB growing pains with either option. Unless Bauta really separates himself, I'd rather groom Ramsey to be the QB on a team with a lot of pieces to make a championship run in 2016. I don't know if Bauta's talented enough to get us there. We don't have elite WRs that will break open for him, so we need a QB with the arm talent to throw guys open.
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:15 am to Crowknowsbest
I think Richt and co will be looking to stretch defenses a little more. Bauta strikes me as a more athletic version of Mason - he might not throw a lot of picks, but when most of his passes travel 5-6 yards, it doesn't do a whole lot to back the defense off and give Chubbs room to run.
Ramsey will almost assuredly throw more picks, but when he can drop it on a dime from 50 yards, it makes that secondary think about it for a half second longer, and usually that is all our RBs need to make something happen.
I think it might be a rough first month or so, but I expect Ramsey to slot in well with the goals of the offense. Just don't be afraid to throw it away, Brice!
Ramsey will almost assuredly throw more picks, but when he can drop it on a dime from 50 yards, it makes that secondary think about it for a half second longer, and usually that is all our RBs need to make something happen.
I think it might be a rough first month or so, but I expect Ramsey to slot in well with the goals of the offense. Just don't be afraid to throw it away, Brice!
Posted on 4/15/15 at 8:22 am to Crowknowsbest
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Unless Bauta really separates himself
I think he adds a little in the rushing game but I agree, he hasn't shown he's clearly any better than the other two.
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I'd rather groom Ramsey
Does he have a bigger upside than Park? Park looks like he has everything Ramsey does, plus he speaks like Jameis Winston and Cardale Jones. I think we can all agree on that being an important attribute to winning a national championship.
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