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re: Should we blame Bobo

Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:58 am to
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 10:58 am to
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I am done being an actual Georgia fan.


Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:13 am to
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WG and gatorhata will defend Bobo to the ends of the earth. It's odd really


I will say he was one of the best in the nation the last few years.

His first few drove me nuts because it was so predictable.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:16 am to
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WG and gatorhata will defend Bobo to the ends of the earth. It's odd really.


what's odd about it? I've already acknowledged the carlton thomas years were an abomination, is that not enough. Aside from that, he's been the best OC in school history and done everything necessary to win a title. We haven't because of our defenses, not our offenses.

I'm still not really sure why it's a negative to defend bobo. Can you tell us, how exactly he should be remembered/thought of? Obviously we should hate him, but can you tell us why exactly?
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:17 am to
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WG and gatorhata will defend Bobo to the ends of the earth. It's odd really.


Why is that odd? He's a record breaking offensive coordinator and is by far the best in the history of the program. The hate he gets is beyond comprehension. Completely unsubstantiated.
Posted by LewDawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:20 am to
But we didn't win multiple championships!!
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:43 am to
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What a dolt.

CST had 1 winning season in 9 prior to McElwain's arrival, the last 3 were all 3 - 9. Bobo came into a program that went 10 - 2 in McElwain's last year, his third. Think that is different?



I think the program is in better shape when JM left than it was when he got there. That still doens't change the fact that when your whole entire coaching staff turns over and you essentially start from scratch (at a place like CSU) you are gonna have growing pains. You even said it yourself..they were awful when JM started and he got them good, how bout we judge MB after 4 years like you are with JM?

Another think you overlook si they had a Bama transfer at RB in dee hart that rushed for 1300 yards last year. Sure would be nice if bobo had him back huh? JM also had a QB who threw for 4,000 yards who isn't with the team anymore. Man sure would be nice if he was still there huh? Oh, JM also lost to boise state his final year, the same team you're already hounding bobo over for losing to.


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I am not blaming the lack of QB development on Bobo (I lay that fully on the feet of Richt),


Some of yall are fricking dumb. You realize you're not going to have a murray/stafford every.single.season right? And it has NOTHING to do with lack of development...sometimes a guy just doesn't pan out. I mean, Richard Samuel and Reggie Bush were both 5 stars out of high school..WHY DID OUT CRAPPY COACHES NOT COACH UP SAMUEL TO DEVELOP INTO REGGIE BUSH!?!!? Because sometimes guys just aren't as good as you thought.

There isn't a single school in America who has had a run of QBs the last 14 years that richt/bobo have had. None. Not a single one. EVery QB bama has had in their 3 championship seasons this decade pales in comparison both talent wise and stats wise to aaron murray. QBs don't win you titles for the most part.

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Rams' fans probably feel a bit different coming off a 10 - 2 regular seaso


Rams fans realized that their stud QB and RB are both gone, they have a first year ever HC, and a brand new staff on both sides of the ball so I'm sure they weren't expecting 10 wins again. And you realize theyr'e about 20 seconds away from 3-1 right? I wonder if peple would still be singing the same tune if that was their record.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:53 am to
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You're allowed to be a fan and not like the direction the program is going....


Yep. Nothing out there indicates we are going in the right direction. We are recruiting better than ever...making better coaching hires, building an IPF.....nothing to like here. Of course, we can focus only on the negatives I guess. If we complain about everything that is Georgia, that proves we are great fans and want only the best, right?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 11:57 am to
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.much better than average but nowhere near elite.


Out of curiosity, who do you consider elite? I mean, it would be hard for anybody to argue against Alabama.....but who else? Ohio State? They just won a National Championship, but was pretty mediocre before that. Who is elite?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:02 pm to
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And Chubb isn't a great back...I stand by that.


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He won't win the Heisman which would indicate greatness.


So, if you don't win the Heisman you can't be considered great?

Using your criteria there has only been 5 great running backs in the last 20 years, then.

Those are:

Mark Ingram
Ron Dayne
Ricky Williams
Eddie George and
Rashaan Salaam

I like Chubb better than 2-3 of those.
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:09 pm to
I wasn't asked, but I'm starting to question Oregon. They lost at home worse than we did, and if you look to the results Phil Knight has to show for the almost 20 years of throwing money at that program. Yes, they've been in two NC games in 6 years, but the team appears to be lost right now.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Nothing out there indicates we are going in the right direction


I never said that. I was simply pointing out to someone else that you can be a fan and still be a pessimist.

I also think Saturday was a giant step back in the upward trend of the program. Great programs don't let that happen to them in their own house.
This post was edited on 10/8/15 at 12:44 pm
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:44 pm to
And there y'all are. Back to back. Impressive.
Posted by LewDawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:47 pm to
Seems almost alter-ish
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:48 pm to
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And there y'all are. Back to back.


and you did nothing to refute anything that was said...how shocking
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 12:51 pm to
Because I don't work for the government and have all damn day to write a wall of text every time I disagree with someone. Y'all act like he is beyond reproach. And anytime somebody has something deragotory to say about him, y'all come running. Every coach in the history of football has failures.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:00 pm to
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I don't work for the government and have all damn day to write a wall of text every time I disagree with someone.




yeah not many do

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Y'all act like he is beyond reproach


For the 3rd time, in this thread, that's not true. I've point blank said he had about a 4 year period that was downright bad. I can get a skywriter to fly that over Hinesville if it helps sink in, not sure how many other ways I can say it.

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anytime somebody has something deragotory to say about him, y'all come running.


False again. Saying "bobo had a few years of shite playcalling" is one thing. It's truth as well. Saying bobo sucks, or he's the reason we have poor QB play, or he's the reason we haven't won a title....is simply so off base it's not even funny.

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Every coach in the history of football has failures.


And nobody has said otherwise sooo...
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:08 pm to
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For the 3rd time, in this thread, that's not true. I've point blank said he had about a 4 year period that was downright bad. I can get a skywriter to fly that over Hinesville if it helps sink in, not sure how many other ways I can say it.


Unless I have skimmed over it, the only place I saw anything close to that is where you blame it on him having shitty running backs.

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fly that over Hinesville


I live in Savannah.

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False again. Saying "bobo had a few years of shite playcalling" is one thing. It's truth as well. Saying bobo sucks, or he's the reason we have poor QB play, or he's the reason we haven't won a title....is simply so off base it's not even funny.


Both of you spin things in his favor. "The offense was bad because we had crappy running backs"..... "He has a losing record at Colorado State because of X,Y,and Z."

I haven't said a word in this thread about Bobo himself. I was just pointing out that as far as I can remember, if there is any thread that concerns Bobo, you two immediately defend him.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:09 pm to
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Seems almost alter-ish


Yep. Going for the three year slow play.
Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
75242 posts
Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:11 pm to
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I live in Savannah.

That's right. We all discussed this when WG came to Savannah
Posted by bigdawg7780
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Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/8/15 at 1:13 pm to
Bobo was the only OC in the country where the team could lose 45-42, 41-38, etc. and catch 100x the hell the DC caught.
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