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re: Richt's biggest problem

Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:07 am to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:07 am to
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Chef Leppard
Ok so I'm saying. why even try to establish the pass early the way we did. serious question. as physical as our platoon of backs is why wouldnt you hurl RB bodies into that front into the 3rd qtr at least and soften those mf'rs up



Because their dL vs our ol was a complete mismatch. They were going to soften us up.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:14 am to
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The first play call was great, the play action to malcolm. But after that it was just one headscratcher after another.



Yep. He was wide open too. That could have been 6 and the game would have been completely different. When Lambert missed that throw as badly as he did, I thought we could be in a little bit of trouble.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:20 am to
I give Bama a slight talent edge. Nothing that a solid game plan could not have neutralized at home on a very wet day.

The offensive game plan lost that game early because once it reached 24-3, we were beyond being able to make up 3 TDs.

CBS had a pretty awful plan that Richt obviously bought into. Our short to intermediate passing game was basically non-existent. Lambert had all day to throw in the first 2 quarters but our WRs were usually so far down the field that there were no red jerseys even on my TV screen. Their DB coverage was either stellar tight or Lambert could not figure out when to pull the trigger and held the ball until the play collapsed around him. Probably a bit of both.

The first pass that went to Blazevich was a 15 yard out where he lined up in the slot. That was pretty far into the 2nd quarter. To get their LBs on their heels instead of their toes we needed to back them off early by targeting the soft spot behind them and in front of their safeties by using play action with our TE in a traditional set. The only time we did was when Mitchell got drilled and that was because it was apparent by that time to me, you and every Bama player and coach that Lambert was looking to throw to him almost every play.

Lambert does not have the ability to extend plays like QBs who have given Bama trouble over the last few years where a covered WR was able to adjust a route and break open. He just sat in the pocket and got flushed into a run for the yard marker or had his throwing hand skid out from under the ball in an attempt to avoid a sack. Just an overall crappy plan to attack their defense. As a result, it fed right into Bamas strength which is the front 4-5.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:22 am to
Slight? Bama had a major edge in talent in the game. That team is loaded.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:26 am to
Georgia isn't Vandy or Kentucky where they put marginally talented teams on the field and pray to not get blown out. Georgia puts extremely talented teams on the field every Saturday. This isn't 2011/2012 Alabama. They aren't as good this year as they have been, and this bullshite STILL happened. That's the issue here.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:31 am to
Maybe they are as good as usual, and Our talent is always way overrated. The differences were glaring.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 11:39 am to
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Maybe they are as good as usual


They have 4 straight #1 recruiting classes and I believe they're the first program to ever do that. I don't think our talent is overrated though, I just think we played a crappy game.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:08 pm to
They are still more talented at DL. We are at least equal on OL, RB and LB. It seems obvious now that they are better at QB bt that is not saying much. Neither one of us are great at DB or WR. Not a huge difference in talent. Marginal to slight is accurate.

BTW, are you DJS from the Dawgost?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:09 pm to
I am.

Our OL is not great. Bama's is betterand they have a 1st round pick at LT.
Our DB's lack talent. Bama's are better.
Our DL is decent at best. Bama's might be the best in the nation.
Our WR's outside of a 5th year SR are nothing special. They lost a #1 WR from 2014 class and replaced him with a #1 from 2015 and of course he torched our DB's.
We are a mess at QB.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Chef Leppard
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:23 pm to
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Because their dL vs our ol was a complete mismatch. They were going to soften us up.


The keep hitting the edges dragging there asses sideline to sideline, and keep Lambert on those quick screens we use throw 50 times a game back when Murray used to throw behind receivers early on, getting them murdered like Lambert does
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:25 pm to
Sideline to sideline isn't as easy in the water, + with your ol not setting an edge, + with your wideouts covered up.
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:33 pm to
Agree with some of this. I think they are more talented at DL and QB but about equal everywhere else.

Good to see you on this board. Thought is was you. I am Jaymac50 as you know me from years on DP.
Posted by Chef Leppard
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:38 pm to
I dont think our offensive line was as grossly mismatched as stated. I think our gameplan was terrible and terribly executed on top of that. try to sell play action with a qb thats visibly shitting from practically the first snap is not going to go very well against a Saban defense
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 12:42 pm to
Good to see a recognized face around here. Hope you are doing well.

We start 2 three stars and a walk on at DB, and we have never signed the quality of OL that Bama does, so I can't agree with you on those 2 positions.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 12:43 pm
Posted by USAF Hart
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 1:23 pm to
Our biggest strength is our Linebackers. After that, is our OL. Then lastly we have Chubb. Outside of that, we aren't really blazing a trail much of anywhere. When Ramsey struggled against Vanderbilt, I knew we were in trouble. If you can't pick apart what should have been one of the softer SEC teams, you can't pick apart the big boys. I'm willing to allow some leeway, as the weather was less than favorable for most of the game. However, if we expect to represent the East in Atlanta this year, we need to pull our heads out of our asses and start playing some solid football all around.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 1:37 pm to
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I think our gameplan was terrible and terribly executed on top of that.
This. We went into it putting the game on Lambert's shoulders and continued to do so even when it was clear how that would turn out. And even during the attempts to throw it around, Michel wasnt involved in the passing game and that's a crime.

During the pivotal stretch when they blew the game open in the 2nd quarter, we had three 3 and outs with 7 of those 9 plays being passes.

We abandoned the run really early at the first sight of difficulty. Whereas Bama kept running (even though we were doing fairly well against it) and it paid off. And when things got really bad, instead of reverting to our one strength (running), we panicked and put in the clearly inferior QB.

We aren't a team built on throwing it all over the field. We are a run first offense.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 1:41 pm to
Agreed. I'm thinking the plan was focused on the short-to-medium passes like OM did against them a week ago with success. It wasn't a bad plan in itself, but Bama was expecting it and planned to defend it, which took away the passing attack.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 2:04 pm to
Yea they definitely took those away. And realized that if they just made sure Mitchell was covered, we wouldn't have any other real options since TEs and RBs weren't part of the passing game. This game really exposed our lack of depth at WR.

Godwin is gonna be really good though and he was open a decent bit but apparently wasn't part of the progression that consisted of 'look for mitchell-mitchell not open-panic.'
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