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re: Richt v McGarity tension
Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:51 am to Biggen
Posted on 12/30/14 at 6:51 am to Biggen
Bobo would have been an idiot to have stayed even if we had matched whatever CSU offered. He has a chance to prove he is capable of running the show and make a lot of money in the process. If he proves successful he can write his own check in a few years....fail and he is still wealthy and probably hire able as a OC at many schools including UGA.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:10 am to Casper the Dawg
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And just a note... Coaches that do more with less are not winning championships. That underfunded team from the ghetto winning big because of their awesome coach, that shite is not reality!
If Richt were operating at capacity more money would be in order. An employee should only get a raise when he becomes more valuable to their employer. Richt has said since day one that UGA was his last job. If there is no danger of an employee leaving because the employee has proven time and again that they won't why would you, as an employer, rock the boat when the employee is meeting all of your expectations and not insisting on fundamental changes. Apparently Richt is more than happy with the situation at UGA. Presumably he is a man who would have options if he chose to pursue them, yet he doesn't.
There is a reason for this type of satisfaction. I for one think it is the lack of pressure to do any better. Richts entire life has proven that he will stay the comfortable course given the opportunity. He isn't the type who easily steps out of his comfort zone and he somehow convinces others to follow suit (DJ and Mason come quickly to mind). He is the perfect fit for UGA. He runs what is apparently a clean program that makes enough money to keep the AD afloat without too much embarrassment and produces just enough to keep hope alive. As is evidenced by so many UGA fans pointing out the debacle at UT (rightfully so) he is the quintessential UGA head football coach....stay the course, don't gamble, hope for the best.
As for any controversy between he and the administration at UGA??? Probably does not exist at all. Nothing in Richts background would suggest that he would ever question those above him on the organizational chart. He has maintained that he intended to retire in Athens since day one and has never once backed down from that stand even when he would have had any opportunity in the nation if he let on that he was interested. His signal to the University that he would stay as long as they would have him is pretty indicative of his intention to stay the course no matter what. To change course would mean stepping outside of his comfort zone and rolling the dice, something he has proven his entire career to be loathe to do.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:21 am to germandawg
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Richt were operating at capacity more money would be in order. An employee should only get a raise when he becomes more valuable to their employer.
It really doesn't matter whether Richt is operating at capacity. (Long term UGA history would indicate that he is). What matters is changing UGA's capacity so that he or whoever the coach is in the future can win more in the future. Right now, UGA's capacity is a steady 9-3 with outliers here and there. Who the coach is is inconsequential long term.
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Nothing in Richts background would suggest that he would ever question those above him on the organizational chart.
This is dumb. He actually got NCAA violations because he thought UGA wasn't paying its employees well enough. He doesn't say anything publicly because they would create a bad situation for him and the program. He's paid not to say anything publicly.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:27 am to Crowknowsbest
Not sure I'm buying German's Schtick. Seems to stifle innovation. More suited to a scarcity of resources argument...which this is not.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:32 am to WorkinDawg
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The point I was making is that it wouldn't have mattered if B-M offered him matching money. He was interested in the CSU job regardless. That is why I think we never heard of a matching offer from UGA to keep him on staff. They knew his intentions and did want to waste his (or theirs) time.
The point I was making is that it wouldn't have mattered if B-M offered him matching money. He was interested in the CSU job regardless. That is why I think we never heard of a matching offer from UGA to keep him on staff. They knew his intentions and did want to waste his (or theirs) time.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:44 am to tylerdurden24
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Makes ya wish we had Bama's BOR. Sure, they shite all over UAB and make football related decision in non football related matters but god damn that would make life better.
What this comes down to is a round peg trying to fit into a square hole: the football program runs the Athletic side of things and wants to operate as a football program (with money and huge staffs and new facilities and shite). Meanwhile, someone or some group (the AD, the President, the BOR, whoever I haven't figured it out and probably never will) rejects the idea of football being king of campus a la Bama and Auburn. It's no secret that there has been a struggle between athletics and academics on UGA's campus for years (most notably with the Jan Kemp scandal). Quite frankly, the University needs to figure out what it wants to be and kick out all of those that don't fit in with that philosophy for better or for worse.
This^ it's time for the program to either follow Tech into the ACC for academics, or pony up and lead in the SEC and get in front of the bell curve because it is just about to overtake the program.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:19 am to Biggen
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Richt v McGarity tension Bobo has basically said that him leaving had nothing to do with money: LINK So you can't blame ADGM on this one like many would like to do. It was just Bobo's time.
Lip service. If he jst waned to advance his career, he would have left a while ago. I think he left because there no longer was an updsie for him to stay...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:34 am to Peter Buck
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There is definitely some truth to the rift between our staff and McGarity, but most of the rumors making the rounds right now are not worth the time it takes to read them. I will say this, though, the fact that some of the most well connected UGA posters/boosters out there are coming out in support of CMR, and taking some shots at McGarity and the way he has gone about doing his job, is very telling to me. McGarity better step back and reassess the landscape from a 30,000 foot view before he continues down the course he is on IMHO.
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Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:35 am to Peter Buck
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If he jst waned to advance his career, he would have left a while ago.
Where? Ga Southern or Southern Miss?The only other HC jobs that he was offered that I know
of.
Not even in the same ballpark as the CSU job.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 8:41 am to Crowknowsbest
saw that...
The rumors are even being talked about by 247 insiders on a coupla different team sites. CMR needs to get out in front of this before our recruiting starts to bleed out...
The rumors are even being talked about by 247 insiders on a coupla different team sites. CMR needs to get out in front of this before our recruiting starts to bleed out...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:05 am to RD Dawg
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Richt v McGarity tension
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If he jst waned to advance his career, he would have left a while ago.
Where? Ga Southern or Southern Miss?The only other HC jobs that he was offered that I know
of.
Not even in the same ballpark as the CSU job.
No... If he was actively looking, he has his agent putting his name and resume out there. Think of all the jobs that have been open the last 3 years... Was he just sitting back and waiting for CSU to have an opening? Come on...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:13 am to dallasga6
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saw that... The rumors are even being talked about by 247 insiders on a coupla different team sites. CMR needs to get out in front of this before our recruiting starts to bleed out...
We know about the funding/$. That is public info.
Lots of rumors about the tension/ rift. The degree and scope is something we do not really know.
Rumors, naturally, that there is a lot of uneasiness on the staff due to open spots, who will fill them.
The team morale is not too high right now and the bowl practices have not been too good. I am certain of this info....
I do know some guys are pulling for Coach Lilly
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:14 am to Peter Buck
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Lip service. If he jst waned to advance his career, he would have left a while ago. I think he left because there no longer was an updsie for him to stay...
This. Bobo saw the writing on the wall with how Pruitt has been treated. And this is coming from the McGarity side of the situation.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:22 am to Peter Buck
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Think of all the jobs that have been open the last 3 years...
Are talking big time HC jobs?Not aware of 1 that
Bobo was in the running for.
I'm assuming he's a Jimmy Sexton client...don't you think we would have had heard his name associated with ANY of those jobs if that was the case?
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:29 am to RD Dawg
He isn't with Jimmy
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:34 am to Peter Buck
It's pretty clear Bobo was ready to make a move this year. A counter offer most likely would not have fixed it, but paying him his market value MAY have not put him in a spot to be shopping his name...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:41 am to Peter Buck
No doubt and I have no doubt about what your saying about ADGM and CMR being spot on.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:50 am to RD Dawg
... And I want to repeat that our AD has stated publicly that he does not want to join the coaching arms race. I have it quoted on this thread. The UGA AA is sitting on a close to $70m surplus. $30m of which was "transferred" to the GA fund. That is $30m in Hartman donations. Yet, we can't afford to build stuff and pay market value? Why the frick should we give to these assholes? They are taking us for fools...
Posted on 12/30/14 at 9:59 am to Peter Buck
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paying him his market value MAY have not put him in a spot to be shopping his name...
And if you read the 'chipster article he self admittedly was definitely looking around....
Posted on 12/30/14 at 10:09 am to ohmdawg
the way Bobo answered the question in regards to any other UGA staff hires is interesting...
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