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re: Re-Watching the Belk Bowl now

Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:35 am to
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:35 am to
Why can't you just let people regurgitate what they learn from Gary Danielson? Why do you always have to come in here with your foosball experience and ask for explanations you know are going to be wrong?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:37 am to
Conley caught the ball in the second one and Blaze caught the third. The LBs were dropping to the first down lines. I would bet that UGA ran plays to get first downs and had him throw to the primaries to make it simple. I am not sure how good he is, but blabbing about him having a penchant for throwing into triple coverage based on that game and all the factors that apply is pretty fricking retarded.
Posted by MSGADawg5988
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:40 am to
Exactly. We game planned for Mason to be in the game with the fill playbook at our disposal but Ramsey got forced in there. I just don't think that game should be counted against him.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 7:57 am to
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I just don't think that game should be counted against him.


I will agree that it was out of the ordinary circumstances why he was in, so certain things like misreading coverages or messing up snap counts I can totally understand the reason behind. But some of the throws he made were just plain BAD. I watched the 2nd half yesterday and there was a play probably midway through the 4th quarter. We were going left to right on the TV screen and were on around their 35 or 40. We had single coverage up top with Conley running what looked like a post and it was just CC and a safety. CC makes his break and Ramsey threw a duck about 10 yards behind him and 5 yards in front. It was a terrible, terrible throw that had nothing to do with teh gameplan.

My sincere hope is that with a full offseason of more or less being the #1 guy he can work out some issues and be a weapon for us.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:02 am to
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I will agree that it was out of the ordinary circumstances why he was in, so certain things like misreading coverages or messing up snap counts I can totally understand the reason behind. But some of the throws he made were just plain BAD


This about sums it up. No one was expecting him to come out and go 18-22 in the second half for 270 yards and 3 TDs.

The real telling sign is that Richt and Co still don't have the confidence in him to name him the starter. That bad half aside, he still hasn't shown what he needs to. And it's not because someone else is lighting it up and pushing him - Park and Bauta appear to be muddling along at the same pace.

I'm sure the coaches understand the bad weather and jitters more than anyone, so for them to still be concerned validates a lot of the points expressed in this thread.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:38 am to
That one slant certainly appeared to be a bad throw... Almost to the point that he may have thought he was running some sort of stop route. Who knows? It was a bad throw based on the surface.

He must have some sort of issue in the coaches minds. His arm strength and accuracy seem solid, so I would bet it is something else.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 8:43 am to
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His arm strength and accuracy seem solid, so I would bet it is something else.


If it is something between the ears, then bring on Lambert.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:00 am to
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His arm strength and accuracy seem solid, so I would bet it is something else.


probably just lack of experience. Although like I said earlier, he hasn't really shown many flashes of potential to be really good either. Even when Joe T came in against Arkansas in 05 when DJ went down, on one of his first 2 drives he made a deep out throw that was absolutely gorgeous, it was a better throw than any I've seen Ramsey make.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:12 am to
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The real telling sign is that Richt and Co still don't have the confidence in him to name him the starter. That bad half aside, he still hasn't shown what he needs to. And it's not because someone else is lighting it up and pushing him - Park and Bauta appear to be muddling along at the same pace.

IMO, they're trying to convince Bauta and/or Park not to transfer.

Watching the spring game and reading from beat reporters, it seems blatantly obvious to me who the starter is. Lambert could shake it up, but I doubt it.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:14 am to
That is an interesting twist and logical.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:18 am to
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it seems blatantly obvious to me who the starter i


It does? Both QBs worked with the ones almost equally.
This post was edited on 6/9/15 at 9:20 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 9:23 am to
Ramsey started with the ones and made a lot more plays with the ones. The playbook was more open. He threw the ball downfield. That, and he played a lot less than Bauta with the twos.

This is all just my suspicion. If you want Bauta to stick around, you need to keep up appearances of an open and even competition.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:05 pm to
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Exactly. We game planned for Mason to be in the game with the fill playbook at our disposal but Ramsey got forced in there. I just don't think that game should be counted against him.
It should most definitely count against him. There is very limited game footage of Ramsey to begin with and then you want us to ignore the one where he plays against a decent team? Should we ignore Chubb's stats too for that game, since it doesn't count for Ramsey?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:11 pm to
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Should we ignore Chubb's stats too for that game, since it doesn't count for Ramsey?


the entire point that poster made sailed way over your head, like by a mile.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:13 pm to
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Conley caught the ball in the second one and Blaze caught the third


The first pictures, @ the 8:59 mark of the 3rd quarter, the ball was dropped by the DEFENDER. It should of been an easy INT, hit him square in the hands, but dropped it.

The 2nd picture set, @ 0:22 secs in the 3rd, Yes Conley caught the ball, but there were 4 defenders in that ZONE of a 4 yd area. Only the perfect ball will work here and Ramsey does make the perfect throw, but I'm SURE there was a better option than that pass, which seemed like his 1st look.

The 3rd picture set, @ 11:57 in the 4th was NOT caught by Blaze. I will repost the first picture of that set.



I added some drawings to the play in question with Blaze. As you can plainly see, Ramsey is about to throw, so you can look at all the players in the picture and take a guess at his reads. Blaze has 4 guys on him, and by that picture you can see all 11 defenders in that shot. So basically the most congested location on the field is in Blaze's spot, so obviously the qb should look elsewhere first, but Ramsey didn't. He was locked in on Blaze.

2nd, you can see Hicks #48 open for a short gain. Also you can see the white guy at the bottom (Bennett?) running toward the sideline, which is open for him. Then you see at the top of the pic, 1v1 and no help over the top w/ a safety. I don't know who the WR is at the top, but if you throw to him you only have to worry about 1 defender. NOPE, Ramsey goes to the Blaze w/ 4 guys around him. Also the pass was badly, BADLY(peterbuck) thrown. An accurate pass might of resulted in an INT.

And I think Peterbuck actually believes that triple coverage is where you have 3 defenders lined up on a WR, w/ all 3 of them playing man to man.

Like I said, Ramsey needs to work on these things and quit forcing too many throws. If Ramsey can fix the forced throws, then he might actually end up being good. If not, then Lambert or Bauta will have to lead us to the promised land (more than likely, Eason).
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:28 pm to
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the entire point that poster made sailed way over your head, like by a mile.
Yeah b/c no qbs have ever been injured in a game and had to have the back up come in. 2nd string players should always be ready. Sure he was thrown into the fire, but he still made sloppy mistakes that shouldn't be ignored like they never happened b/c he was forced into the game.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:32 pm to
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2nd string players should always be ready. Sure he was thrown into the fire, but he still made sloppy mistakes that shouldn't be ignored like they never happened b/c he was forced into the game.


I don't recall anyone here claiming out badass ramsey is going to be. You can blame a lot of his miscues on the fact he simply hasn't ever really played and isn't that good yet.

But the FACT is that a guy with VERY limited experience, getting thrown into a game cold, is going to struggle, no matter how good he is. Do you remember DJ's performance against tech in 2004?
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:33 pm to
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DawgGONIT


Holy shite. Do less.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15660 posts
Posted on 6/9/15 at 3:36 pm to
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DawgGONIT


You are doing god's work son.

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