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re: Question for Prettyboy/Spread Offense Lobbyists
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:22 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Posted on 1/13/15 at 11:22 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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I know, I was hoping to shed some light on that with the SOS questions.
Apparently no one wants to go down that road. I would be willing to bet that our SOS is higher by a good bit than Oregon's..
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:51 pm to gatorhata9
Prettyboy,
You haven't figured out yet that every team runs pretty much the same schemes right? Most of them run inside/outside zone, sweep with a guard, sweep with a center, sweep with a tackle, Lead, Counter, Power, and a few teams still have trap in the playbook. Football is still football and it comes down to if an individual can whoop the man across from them or not. Oregon does a better job at this than most and they rarely play good teams.
You haven't figured out yet that every team runs pretty much the same schemes right? Most of them run inside/outside zone, sweep with a guard, sweep with a center, sweep with a tackle, Lead, Counter, Power, and a few teams still have trap in the playbook. Football is still football and it comes down to if an individual can whoop the man across from them or not. Oregon does a better job at this than most and they rarely play good teams.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 12:54 pm to history88
Blocking and tackling still wins football games. That hasn't changed in 100 years.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:10 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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They beat everyone on there schedule to include FSU who had won 29 straight games
Yeah... That isn't true.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:17 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
You do know that Oregon choked against Zona.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 5:23 pm to Prettyboy Floyd
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2 National Championship losses
Technically, Richt has lost 14 National Championships. And he's done it before January each time - he's much more efficient at it than Oregon.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:54 pm to FaCubeItches
Auburn runs an offense similar to Oregon. Arguably with as many NFL prospects.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:42 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I think our offense needs to improve in certain areas ...yes. I don't think we need to line up against 10 man fronts for the next 3 years and hope that Nick Chubb can carry us.
I think this thread boils down to the delusion above. There is an immense space between a spread offense and "lining up against 10 man fronts" and handing off to Chubb every time.
We had a game manager at QB and not a whole lot of WR depth and our offense in 2014 was still quite flexible. We fed Chubb a lot because you want your best player to touch the ball the most and Mason wasn't winning games on his own.
As others have said here - our limitations have been 95% on defense. If we had hired Pruitt instead of Grantham way back when, the state of our program would be quite different today, I imagine.
The quickest way to lose any positive momentum right now is by scrapping our consistent top 20 offense and pulling a 180 and going to a spread that one of the top programs has. The necessary coaching/recruiting/etc changes on offense are one thing, plus now you have to recruit a different defense that can handle the upside down T.O.P. every single game.
Incredible that after recent years, someone would look at our teams and think the offense is what has held us back from taking the next step.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 10:53 am to ATLdawg25
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I think this thread boils down to the delusion above.
Not delusion at all...we did exactly that vs GT.
Chubb had some of his best performance when we used play action deep early in games...even when we didn't complete the pass (see Arkansas game)
One "problem" with the GT was out early success running the ball.We continually tried to pound the ball the rest of the game vs their 10 man front with not much success at all.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:01 am to RD Dawg
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Not delusion at all...we did exactly that vs GT.
Whether we should have opened up the passing game in the second half is an entirely different discussion and one that is out of context in this thread.
Regardless - it is easy to point out one game where a different style of offense would have worked better. The same way that Oregon has lost some games and thought "Damn, if we had a traditional offense that could ground and pound and eat some clock, we would have won that one."
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:42 am to ATLdawg25
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Whether we should have opened up the passing game in the second half is an entirely different discussion and one that is out of context in this thread.
Out of context?It was in response to the discussion about letting Chubb "carry us" the next 3 years...
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it is easy to point out one game where a different style of offense would have worked better
Not looking for different "style of offense"...just something a little more diverse than what ran vs GT from the mid 2nd qtr to the 4th qtr.
Posted on 1/14/15 at 11:47 am to RD Dawg
Agreed - if it isn't working, make adjustments. The point of all my rambling is that the adjustment to make isn't to try to adopt a spread offense.
Passing the ball more is perfectly achievable in our current offense, and I think everyone would agree that we can't continue to run the ball at the rate we did in 2014 without injuries.
Passing the ball more is perfectly achievable in our current offense, and I think everyone would agree that we can't continue to run the ball at the rate we did in 2014 without injuries.
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