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re: Question for Prettyboy/Spread Offense Lobbyists
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:42 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:42 am to Prettyboy Floyd
The 2nd and 10 play that Prettyboy Floyd showed in that one post where #15 takes it 35 or so yards to the house is trap read with the Tight end. QB is reading the Defensive end and the TE is trapping the Nose guard. Most colleges don't do this anymore.
That's part of spread + option football. Spread the defense out and then option the defensive end. Real simple.
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:43 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Just because they lost to a very good OSU team doesn't take away from their accomplishments. Oregon would beat the dog shite out of Georgia.
But what did OSU do to win? They were more physical, ran the ball down hill, and controlled the clock. That's the recipe for success no matter what level of football you're on. Teams that do that will beat your run and gun Oregon style spread teams 9/10 times.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:48 am to gatorhata9
I am an offensive guy, LOVE ME SOME OFFENSIVE FOOTBALL. It doesn't matter what you do offensively if you don't have the ability to stop the run, create long 3rd down situations, and it doesn't matter how much you control the clock you significantly hurt your chances of winning.
OSU had a better defense. Actually, if their defense sucked controlling the clock and slowing tempo would hurt because they would get less possessions and less plays.
OSU had a better defense. Actually, if their defense sucked controlling the clock and slowing tempo would hurt because they would get less possessions and less plays.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:58 am to gatorhata9
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But what did OSU do to win? They were more physical, ran the ball down hill, and controlled the clock. That's the recipe for success no matter what level of football you're on. Teams that do that will beat your run and gun Oregon style spread teams 9/10 times.
Oregon would run rough-shed over us. Oregon spread works. It's proven and yielded better results than out traditional offense 10 fold. They have done more in the last 5 years than we have done in 35 years. The facts speak for themselves.
2 Rose Bowl wins
1 Fiesta Bowl wins
2 National Championship losses
I would give my left nut for that level of success.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 10:00 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:04 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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2 Rose Bowl wins
1 Fiesta Bowl wins
2 National Championship losses
The majority of these opportunities come because people are so in love with their program. I mean we can all agree that before this year it was merely a popularity contest to see who would play in the big money games.
I think our D-line has been too mediocre to beat Oregon but to say they'd rough-shed us I'd disagree. Close game between the two but I'd say we'd lose something like 21-31 or somewhere in that area.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:07 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Oregon would run rough-shed over us
So did Florida. That's not the argument here.
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Oregon spread works. It's proven and yielded better results than out traditional offense 10 fold
How many teams have won national titles with the type of spread that Oregon runs?
How many teams have won titles with pro-style traditional offenses?
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 10:09 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:08 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Oregon would run rough-shed over us.
That would be a defensive failure on our part. They don't often run over defenses that are physical and communicate well. UGA has struggled in both of those areas defensively in recent years. They abuse teams that are undisciplined. Good defensive teams aren't undisciplined.
That is not, however, an indictment of UGA's offensive style. Our offense would also run roughshod over our defense.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:09 am to history88
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Close game between the two but I'd say we'd lose something like 21-31 or somewhere in that area.
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The majority of these opportunities come because people are so in love with their program.
They get those because they don't lose. When you win football games opportunities are opened for you. The fact that they won 3 BCS games and gave Cam Newton and Auburn all they could handle speaks for itself.
I mean, if my program sucks I want it to suck in the fashion that Oregon sucks. Are we really that ignorant?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:15 am to Crowknowsbest
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That would be a defensive failure on our part. They don't often run over defenses that are physical and communicate well. UGA has struggled in both of those areas defensively in recent years. They abuse teams that are undisciplined. Good defensive teams aren't undisciplined.
They beat everyone on there schedule to include FSU who had won 29 straight games. We aren't even remotely close to Oregon's level. It's laughable to even think we belong in the same conversation.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:17 am to Prettyboy Floyd
I'm not saying we're as good as them. They play better defense.
FSU played undisciplined and turned the ball over. We would have crushed them too.
FSU played undisciplined and turned the ball over. We would have crushed them too.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:18 am to Crowknowsbest
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We would have crushed them too.
I don't even
Oh whatever
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:22 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Here are my questions.
If it's so damn easy to replicate what Oregon does then why don't more teams do it and for the ones who have tried, why aren't they more successful?
What is their strenghth of schedule like compared to ours?
And how many more points per game to they average?
If it's so damn easy to replicate what Oregon does then why don't more teams do it and for the ones who have tried, why aren't they more successful?
What is their strenghth of schedule like compared to ours?
And how many more points per game to they average?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:29 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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If it's so damn easy to replicate what Oregon does then why don't more teams do it and for the ones who have tried, why aren't they more successful?
Finesse football doesn't win championships. It runs up huge numbers on average teams.
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What is their strenghth of schedule like compared to ours?
GT is better than anyone Oregon played. Clemson, Missouri, Auburn probably are too.
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And how many more points per game to they average?
Oregon: 45.4
Georgia: 41.3
DEFENSE
Georgia: 21.3
Oregon 22.5
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:30 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I don't even
Did you actually watch FSU this season? They played shite defense most of the year and turned the ball over six times in the Rose Bowl. What I said is in no way absurd.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:31 am to Porter Osborne Jr
The thing is, Porter, is that no one is taking into account who Oregon plays. How would we have faired with their same schedule?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:32 am to Prettyboy Floyd
quote:Depends on what you're trying to accomplish. Win plenty of regular season games? Sure. Put up plenty of stats? Sure.
Oregon spread works.
This loss basically shows that Oregon won't be able to win the big one with their style of offense. They won't have a QB that runs that offense better than Mariota did. And even then they just got worked. I think I saw a stat-line that OSU didn't prevent a TD all year once a team was in goal-to-go situation and they stopped Oregon at least 2 or 3 times.
They went +4 in turnovers and still lost by multiple TDs. And when the going got rough, that high speed offense getting some high speed 3 and outs killed their defense (though OSU's OL did a nice job of putting the screws to them as well).
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:33 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I don't even
If we played FSU and they turned the ball over 6 times, we would have won by three touchdowns.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:34 am to VADawg
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GT is better than anyone Oregon played. Clemson, Missouri, Auburn probably are too.
You do realize FSU beat GT correct. They also beat Clemson. FSU then proceeded to get their doors blown off by Oregon.
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Finesse football doesn't win championships. It runs up huge numbers on average teams.
Oregon has won 3 BCS games and lost to AU by 3 in a National Championship game. That is 5 years of winning football. You aren't playing average teams if you are reaching the BCS and you certainly aren't playing average teams if you are in the national title games. Why the attack on the ducks. All they have done is go out and whip everyone and the second they lose a game everyone wants to bash them. Oregon is 5x a better program than Georgia. We only wish we could have a 5 year run like Oregon has had.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:35 am to Spaceman Spiff
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How would we have faired with their same schedule?
Considering we lost to UF, USC, and GT
Not well
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:37 am to gatorhata9
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If we played FSU and they turned the ball over 6 times, we would have won by three touchdowns.
Oregon and FSU are on a diffrent level than Georgia.
We are a solid 10 win team. Nothing more, nothing less.
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