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re: Perspective is a funny thing

Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:13 am to
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:13 am to
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Some will not give him credit for doing anything good


It depends on your definition of good. He and the staff had three fantastic, terrific games this season (at Missouri, at Arkansas, vs Auburn). I think he did a very good job in 2012, but he hasn't even won the conference since 2005. Meanwhile, Gene fricking Chizik won a national title.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:19 am to
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He and the staff had three fantastic, terrific games this season (at Missouri, at Arkansas, vs Auburn).


I think if we beat tech it would be a very good win and the win against Clemson was a solid one, too.

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Meanwhile, Gene fricking Chizik won a national title.


If winnning the title is your benchmark, then I guess Chizik is your man, then.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:23 am to
Forgot about Clemson. Seems so long ago

And no, I'm not a Chizik fan. My point is that with all of the teams around UGA winning titles, it's time for Richt to get one too. The more often he falls short, the less likely it's going to happen, unless he has some Tom Osborne end of career run in him. UGA is a running punchline for underachievement among other fans.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:26 am to
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Forgot about Clemson. Seems so long ago



Yes, it does. In some ways it seems like yesterday, and in some ways it seems like eons ago!
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And no, I'm not a Chizik fan. My point is that with all of the teams around UGA winning titles, it's time for Richt to get one too. The more often he falls short, the less likely it's going to happen, unless he has some Tom Osborne end of career run in him. UGA is a running punchline for underachievement among other fans.



I understand your aggravation. But just watch Florida and their search for a coach. There simply is not much out there. At least, none that is willing to move. Florida will have a HARD time coming up with a new coach, and it probably will not be anyone they truly want.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:29 am to
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UGA is a running punchline for underachievement among other fans.


I don't care what other fans say. MANY schools out recruit Georgia and don't do as well. Shoot...Alabama has more talent than anyone in the country and have won the recruiting title the last 4 years in a row. they should win the National Championship every single year...and yet...they underachieve. Same for LSU, Texas A&M and Florida....Ohio State....USC...Notre Dame. There are plenty of teams out there that out recruit us and yet have worse years.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:30 am to
Everybody should learn from the Aaron Murray debacle. many didn't appreciate what he brought to the table until he left. the same will be true when Richt leaves.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:34 am to
Ask a UF fan and they'll tell you that Chip Kelly and Jim Harbaugh would be nuts to not leave the NFL for UF

I'm not calling for Richt's head. I'm just tired of teams that should beat almost everyone on the schedule (and most by double digits) consistently failing to do so. Most of the losses in the Richt era have been inexcusable, on field abortions. Besides a few of the Meyer UF teams, 2011 LSU and 2012 Alabama, he's had more talent than every team he's lost to in recent years.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:40 am to
We played most of the year without Gurley. When he was suspended half of you were ready to forfeit the games to Missouri and Arkansas. The refs cost us the USC game thou we still should have won. The refs hurt us bad against UF but mostly we were flat. The refs hurt us yesterday on two reviewed fumble calls that both went the Missouri way. Overall we have had a nice year with Gurley out and our coaching had been just fine save the UF game. If we beat GT and win the bowl game then we will have exceeded expectations. Go Dawgs!
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 9:59 am to
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save the UF game


And that game cost UGA a spot in the SECCG and a possible playoff spot, so it isn't ok. Oh and also, it means we get to listen to insufferable UF fans for a year.
This post was edited on 11/29/14 at 10:00 am
Posted by bpatters69
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:11 am to
I expected about 4 losses this year so 10-2 is a nice finish. Still, in my mind it is more of what could have been. Losing to an inferior UF team was one of the toughest losses that I can remember. Had we have beaten UF, we would be headed to the SECCG and we would have controlled our own destiny to the NC. That did not happen and we are where we are.

Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:16 am to
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I'm just tired of teams that should beat almost everyone on the schedule (and most by double digits) consistently failing to do so


I understand. Like Alabama verses Ole Miss. But let Missouri slip up and win the National championship and nobody will care that Indiana beat them. AND, if you think about it....if a National Champion gets beat, aren't they getting beat by somebody they should have beaten?

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Most of the losses in the Richt era have been inexcusable,


And the same could be said of any loss by Alabama the last 4 years or so. They have the best coaches, best facilities, have out recruited everybody, they break the rules in their favor...they process players....why would they EVER lose a single game?

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he's had more talent than every team he's lost to in recent years.


And the same could be said about Alabama, LSU, Florida etc. They USUALLY have higher recruiting classes than Georgia and most other teams in the country. Do you honestly believe that Ole Miss had better talent than Alabama this year? How about Arkansas and LSU? Who had more talent? Mississippi State and Auburn? We are not the only team that gets upset.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:18 am to
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save the UF game



And that game cost UGA a spot in the SECCG and a possible playoff spot, so it isn't ok.


Not really. I could argue it was the South Carolina game that cost us...and go back to the missed holding call. had the correct call been made we would have gone to the SECCG and possibly the playoff.

Point taken about the UF fans, though.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:20 am to
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I expected about 4 losses this year so 10-2 is a nice finish. Still, in my mind it is more of what could have been. Losing to an inferior UF team was one of the toughest losses that I can remember. Had we have beaten UF, we would be headed to the SECCG and we would have controlled our own destiny to the NC. That did not happen and we are where we are.




Again. We were outplayed by Florida. Give them credit. They blew us off the field. It was the South Carolina game that did us in. We had every opportunity to win that game. You can point to the pass play called, or the bad holding call.....but it was the close loss that cost us...NOT the loss where we were not in the game.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:22 am to
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We are not the only team that gets upset.


The difference is Bama/Uf/AU/LSU have championships to compensate for the upsets over the years. We don't have squat. It all comes back to rings. Period.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:42 am to
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We don't have squat. It all comes back to rings. Period.


So, the only thing that makes life worth living is a championship? No coach is worth his salt if he has no championship? Gene Chizik has a championship...would you give Richt up for him? I mean, if we are going to set that up as the end all then let's be consistent.
Posted by davesdawgs
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:52 am to
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Is the only definition of a great team one that wins the National Championship?


No, but it is a deciding factor because such teams consistently did what was necessary to get in the championship game and took care of business on the biggest stage. The problem with it being the only factor is you have some fortunate champions like LSU in 2007 who lost to Kentucky and Arkansas.

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If so, there have been very few great teams.


By definition, greatness is exclusive. It includes only the best teams over time.

Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 10:59 am to
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No coach is worth his salt unless he has a championship?


Unless you're Gary Patterson, Bill Snyder, Art Briles, or any other coach kicking arse at a school that has no business competing for titles, then yes.
This post was edited on 11/29/14 at 11:06 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:08 am to
Wow.. some people here have an extreme entitlement complex.

-Championships are easy and it's CMR's fault that he hasn't just reached out and taken one.

-Other teams in the SEC have championships, so it's UGA's turn (again, because it's easy).

-UGA is the only team that loses to teams that they should easily beat, even if other good teams also do the same thing.

-We should win the SEC East every year because the East is a push-over with every team sucking hard, even though any team can beat any other team (except for Vandy) on any given Saturday.

-CMR is the reason why we can't win it all, and if we only had a coach like Les Miles or Gene Chizik, we would be waltzing into the playoffs and getting Jameis Winston's lawyer on the phone to get us off the hook on rape charges for whoever was unlucky enough to get on the same field as us.

Some of you sound like liberals, where you think life should be easy and everything should be handed to us on a silver platter, because we deserve it and life owes it to us.
Posted by Hobnail
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:12 am to
You can blame the USCe game on bad play calling and bad officiating and it was a close game. Bad loss, shouldn't have lost but it was close.

UF is inexcusable to me. Even if the refs were playing for us that game we still would have gotten wiped off the field. You can't blame that loss of anything other than just not showing up which is my issue with the game.

Both losses sucked but the way we completely checked out in the UF game is what really gets me.

Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 11/29/14 at 11:18 am to
frick this shite. We had a chance at a very fricking special season. Richt shite the bed TWICE and it cost us.
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