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re: OT: These three states are making a Trump win basically impossible
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:49 pm to crispyUGA
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:49 pm to crispyUGA
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People will claim election rigging.
Yep. The perpetual victims have set themselves up to be right no matter what happens.
Trump wins: See, the polls were wrong
Clinton wins: See, I told you there'd be massive election fraud to give it to Clinton
The persecution mindset is so strong it's scary. Trump has tapped into something eerily similar to the black lives matter movement.
"THERES A SPOOKY ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS CAUSING THE PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE! YOU ARENT TO BLAME!"
Posted on 8/16/16 at 7:58 pm to Dawg in Beaumont
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The persecution mindset is so strong it's scary. Trump has tapped into something eerily similar to the black lives matter movement.
Just when you thought you've witnessed the shittiest instincts imaginable, this happens....... Wow.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:13 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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A Trump sticker/sign can get you assaulted or worse. It can get your truck keyed. Or your house vandalized. It can get you labeled a racist or a nazi.
The criticisms by the elites and the media about Trump supporters being backwards racist biggots are the opposite. Most are good hearted honest people. And these people don't want to be thought of as racists. Not even by strangers on the phone calling their land lines asking them polling questions. So, they keep quiet.
The Trump army is undercover. We're everywhere. I'm thinking landslide now, dude.
Had this exact water cooler conversation at work today.
No a whole lotta stickers on bumpers right now... but we're still here.... and voting....
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:18 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I'll try this one last time....
Can someone please give me a logical explanation on how or why polling percentages should factor in to a voter's decision on whether to vote for HIllary or Trump?
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Can someone please give me a logical explanation on how or why polling percentages should factor in to a voter's decision on whether to vote for HIllary or Trump?
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:20 pm to deeprig9
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Not a whole lotta stickers on bumpers right now... but we're still here.... and voting....
...in record numbers.
The silent majority has awoke. Exciting Times.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:30 pm to Jefferson Dawg
Let's hope you're right. Every day new unbelievable evidence of Hillary/Obama/DNC being crooked and incompetent comes to light - running his campaign should be easy.
Today - evidence that the biggest DNC backer is maneuvering through the world and funding all kinds of nefarious shite....Soros is literally Dr evil. Presser.
1/3 of Guantanmo releases go back to jihad. Presser.
Isis in US disclose Mexican training grounds. Presser.
Huge collapses predicted for health insurance exchanges. Presser.
Trump needs to get his shite together.
Today - evidence that the biggest DNC backer is maneuvering through the world and funding all kinds of nefarious shite....Soros is literally Dr evil. Presser.
1/3 of Guantanmo releases go back to jihad. Presser.
Isis in US disclose Mexican training grounds. Presser.
Huge collapses predicted for health insurance exchanges. Presser.
Trump needs to get his shite together.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 8:31 pm
Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:48 pm to SquatchDawg
Obamacare was a disaster from the beginning. How anyone could predict that adding millions of unhealthy people to the rolls would result in lower premiums is beyond me. Simple economics tell you different.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:03 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Can someone please give me a logical explanation on how or why polling percentages should factor in to a voter's decision on whether to vote for HIllary or Trump?
It doesn't. Both are viable candidates. I'll vote for whichever one I agree with most.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:13 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Speaking specifically to Virginia, Trump has basically no chance to win. He'll only control SW Virginia, where nobody lives, and some military votes in Hampton Roads. NOVA and Charlottesville will be a landslide for Hillary, and Trump has so far failed to make any kind of case to fiscal conservatives in Richmond and SE Virginia.
This sounds like MSM bias - Jefferson
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:14 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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In the polls themselves. Because they ignored the polls that did not support their bias..
Prove it
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:35 pm to RedPants
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You get your election news from the Washington Pos
Jeff, just purely out of curiosity, where do you get your news?
Somehow he knows the interal trump polls that show he is winning! so obviously eric trump.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:36 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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So, you understand that the media is biased against Trump, but you don’t think that a poll can be biased against him? That’s precious.
It’s all a fraud, dude. Look at rallies in Florida where OP says polls show Hillary is leading. Trump books giant arenas and fills them with tens of thousands in Florida and has to turn folks away……and in the same exact town Hillary can’t even halfway fill the conference room at the marriot at her rallies.
Clearly Hillary excites nobody.. But,hmmmmmm.....What if you could find some way to get a poll to show she leads, wow then you can get boobus to associate her message with majority approval and popularity. And magically validate it! While also invalidating her opponent by associating him with unpopularity and minority approval in the mind of Boobus..
And if you think that kind of psy op power that polls have over the uninformed cheeto eaters isn’t for sell, then I don’t know what to tell you.
You forgot to respond to this part:
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Consider the Fox News poll. Obviously that network wasn't friendly to Trump in the primaries, but now they are fully on board with him. Why then does their poll track consistently with the vast majority of other national polls? Their polling also accurately showed him dominating the GOP field in the primary. So was Fox News polling accurately in the primaries and then switched to a rigged general election poll?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:12 pm to gatorhata9
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Seeing 10-20k people means more to you than actual data because you assume the data is biased? Yea, trump panders specifically to people like you.
Those 10k people arent biased at all. They just love Trump in an unbiased manner.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:16 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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And this is the most controversial, exciting, heated presidential elections in decades.
I dont think so. Most think this election is a joke, and are gonna pick based on "the lesser of 2 crap pants" more than ever this year. Trump has the crazies who attend rallies, but not much else.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:17 pm to BeefDawg
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You have to be a total buffoon to not believe that is a huge deal.
What do those numbers have to do with the electoral voting the article discusses?
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:20 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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quote: The persecution mindset is so strong it's scary. Trump has tapped into something eerily similar to the black lives matter movement. Just when you thought you've witnessed the shittiest instincts imaginable, this happens....... Wow.
Exactly how a BLM crazy would respond. Sorry man, but Trump himself has already shown the "if I lose, they cheated" card that the poster talked about in the post you quoted.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:45 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Ask yourself why any voter in this country should care about what a poll says, if you are capable in this naieve state of idiocy college people live in.
Not sure why I expected an actual answer out of you.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:22 pm to Jefferson Dawg
I don't vote for two reasons. The primary reason is that there is no way to vote against both candidates. The other reason is due to my realization that the odds of my vote being a factor in the outcome is almost zero and I don't want to waste my time participating in a scam.
Posted on 8/17/16 at 3:01 am to djsdawg
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What do those numbers have to do with the electoral voting the article discusses?
If the percentage difference in Republican voter turnout between 2012 and 2008 vs 2016 were only a few points, I'd agree it's insignificant and not be enough to change the typical leanings of any swing states in the electoral college.
But that's simply not the case. There's a +40-42% difference in voter turnout just between Trump vs previous nominees (Romney and McCain), and a +57% total voter turnout difference between 2012 vs 2016. That's way too big to not mean anything.
And, let's break down the 3 primary states mentioned in the article from the OP. The differences in Dem and Rep voter turnout between those 3 elections (obviously excluding Dem primaries in 2012). And also excluding Colorado because it's a caucus state, but we'll add Pennsylvania since it's turned battleground this election.
Virginia:
2008:
--- Dem: 986,203
--- Rep: 489,252
2012:
--- Rep: 265,570
2016:
--- Dem: 785,041 (down 20% from 2008)
--- Rep: 1,025,452 (up 386% from 2012, up 210% from 2008)
North Carolina:
2008:
--- Dem: 1,580,726
--- Rep: 517,583
2012:
--- Rep: 973,206
2016:
--- Dem: 1,142,916 (down 28% from 2008)
--- Rep: 1,149,530 (up 18% from 2012, up 122% from 2008)
Florida:
2008:
--- Dem: 1,749,920
--- Rep: 1,949,498
2012:
--- Rep: 1,672,634
2016:
--- Dem: 1,709,183 (down 2% from 2008)
--- Rep: 2,361,805 (up 41% from 2012, up 21% from 2008)
Pennsylvania:
2008:
--- Dem: 2,333,462
--- Rep: 815,364
2012:
--- Rep: 810,934
2016:
--- Dem: 1,681,427 (down 28% from 2008)
--- Rep: 1,594,475 (up 97% from 2012, up 96% from 2008)
In every single state, the Republican voter turnout is up by massive percentages over 2012 and 2008 while the Democrat vote is down, in most cases -20% or more, and yet we're supposed to believe the polls show Hillary taking each of these states?
Add to this that even if only 10% of Bernie voters that are #NeverHillary vote for Trump (even though it's probably more like 30%), then she stands no chance. Even if she steals some of the Independent women vote.
On top of this, Trump may very likely also take several of these between Ohio, Michigan, Nevada, Iowa, Missouri, and quite possibly New Hampshire too. Every single one of these states the primary voter turnout was down at least 20% for Democrats (with Bernie getting at least 45% of the Dem vote) and up at least 20% for Republicans, with total Reps being higher than total Dems in each state too.
And we haven't even had the debates yet, where Trump is going to HAMMER Establishment Corrupt Cronism and all of Hillary's dozens of scandals into the ground over and over and over. Not to mention it's pretty obvious WikiLeaks/Assange is going to release some dirt on Hillary the week before the election.
Some of you folks are in for a rude awakening come November. The Anti-Establishment movement is not being taken seriously enough. Prepare yourself for disappointment if you don't like Trump.
This post was edited on 8/17/16 at 7:07 am
Posted on 8/17/16 at 5:19 am to gatorhata9
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Not sure why I expected an actual answer out of you.
Most people will look back on the naieve and cringe worthy political opinions they had in college or shortly after with embarassment after they've grown up and lived in the real world for a while....
You. Well, I'm not so sure. I'm afraid your one of those one whose know-nothing condition may be permanent.
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