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re: OT: These three states are making a Trump win basically impossible
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:11 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:11 pm to Crowknowsbest
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you mean statistics
See. You've bought into the fraud that polling is "science". It's not.
Which is sad. And actually pretty fricking bizarre because as a voter you benefit exactly ZERO from any poll anywhere at any time. In any way imaginable under the sun.
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:15 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Okay, I'm joining the lol crowd
Great! Pull up a miniature plastic chair to the kid's table and have some cheetos!
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:18 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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See. You've bought into the fraud that polling is "science". It's not.
Except it is. Is it infallible? No, but on the whole these black magic voodoo polls tend to be pretty accurate. They get a large enough sample to get a reasonably good picture of the current situation. It's a useful indicator.
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And actually pretty fricking bizarre because as a voter you benefit exactly ZERO from any poll anywhere at any time. In any way imaginable under the sun.
That depends. In a primary situation, polls can help you determine which candidates could conceivably win so you don't waste a vote on somebody who has no chance.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:19 pm to Crowknowsbest
Dude, why bother? You're not going to get an intelligent rebuttal, just another insult thrown your way. It's like actually arguing with Trump.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:25 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Except it is.
No. It's not.
This is beyond bizarre that voters would actually defend the tools that are being used to disenfranchise them.
Google "Stockholm Syndrome"
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:33 pm to Crowknowsbest
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In a primary situation, polls can help you determine which candidates could conceivably win so you don't waste a vote on somebody who has no chance.
This is what they tried to do with Brexit.
The polls reported all day that "Stay" was winning big..... to try and discourage people from bothering to come out in the rain just to waste their time casting a "Leave" vote.
"Leave' won big anyway. So much for "science" that day i guess.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:42 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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This is what they tried to do with Brexit.
The polls reported all day that "Stay" was winning big..... to try and discourage people from bothering to come out in the rain just to waste their time casting a "Leave" vote.
"Leave' won big anyway. So much for "science" that day i guess.
Polls did likely effect that vote, but more in the way of convincing people that were going to vote for "stay" that they didn't need to waste their time.
Thus, polls are not infallible. People don't show up. People change their minds. They are still using statistics. That's why the polls cite margins of error.
On the topic of Stockholm Syndrome, there's a whole lot of that going on in the Republican Party these days.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:46 pm to Jefferson Dawg
quote:Well that's just not true at all. I just looked at several polls and they were all pretty close for months. In the days leading up to the vote, a lot of sites and polls were saying that it could go either way, and it ended up being 51-49.
The polls reported all day that "Stay" was winning big..... to try and discourage people from bothering to come out in the rain just to waste their time casting a "Leave" vote.
quote:51-49 really is a blowout
"Leave' won big anyway.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:48 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Well that's just not true at all. I just looked at several polls and they were all pretty close for months. In the days leading up to the vote, a lot of sites and polls were saying that it could go either way, and it ended up being 51-49.
I think the problem with that was that most people figured that people voting for "leave" were more likely to participate in polls.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:48 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Well that's just not true at all. I just looked at several polls and they were all pretty close for months.
You're going to fit in great at the kid's table.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:53 pm to SumterCoDawg
^^^ See, you actually looked up information and the response was an insult. This is comically predictable.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:54 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Polls did likely effect that vote, but more in the way of convincing people that were going to vote for "stay" that they didn't need to waste their time.
Nice! You said in your earlier post that polls are an invaluable source of intel for you personally in that it keeps you from voting for a candidate that doesn't have a chance.........and now you say that polls do the opposite. They keep people/things from voting for people that are going to win.
This is too good!
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:55 pm to RedPants
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See, you actually looked up information and the response was an insult. This is comically predictable.
He looked up info about polls in the months before the vote when I was clearly speaking about exit polls the day of the vote.
Butt out, or at least try to keep up. Thanks.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:56 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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I was clearly speaking about exit polls the day of the vote.
No you weren't. Nice try.Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:58 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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Nice! You said in your earlier post that polls are an invaluable source of intel for you personally in that it keeps you from voting for a candidate that doesn't have a chance.........and now you say that polls do the opposite. They keep people/things from voting for people that are going to win.
That's not what I said. What I said was that in a primary situation (ie. more that 2-3 candidates), polls can help you decide who has a chance to win.
Example: This year, some people voted for Lindsey Graham and Mike Huckabee. If they'd looked at polls, they would have known that that would be a waste.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:59 pm to RedPants
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No you weren't. Nice try.
Yes. I was. Do you not understand english? What the frick does "all day" mean to you.
lol lol lol
Posted on 8/16/16 at 3:59 pm to Jefferson Dawg
quote:Do you have any link or shred of evidence to back that up, that is the media purposely misleading the public to stay in and not vote? I ask this knowing full well you'll deflect or say something about the kids table. From what I remember on that day, people knew throughout the day that it was going to be close, they didn't just suddenly announce that night that they left the EU leaving people shocked that the "remain" side didn't win by 15 points.
He looked up info about polls in the months before the vote when I was clearly speaking about exit polls the day of the vote.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:02 pm to Jefferson Dawg
The conversation was about the polling data in the Washington Post for 2 pages, then a simple "all day" reference in your post means we've shifted the conversation to exit polls? Got it.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:02 pm to SumterCoDawg
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Do you have any link or shred of evidence to back that up, that is the media purposely misleading the public to stay in and not vote?
Of course he doesn't. He still won't tell us where he gets his news since we're all idiots for reading the Washington Post.
Posted on 8/16/16 at 4:06 pm to RedPants
quote:He reminds me of my cousin who ate a lot of lead based paint chips as a child. When he says that that the moon is made of cheese you just go along with him and say: "Yeah Duncan, you bet it is.", because if you don't, then 2 hours later you realize you've been arguing with a retard for 2 hours about something that you know to be factual. Who's the winner in that situation? Definitely not the guy arguing with the water head for hours on end.
See, you actually looked up information and the response was an insult. This is comically predictable.
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