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re: OT: These three states are making a Trump win basically impossible

Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:57 am to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/16/16 at 8:57 am to
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NOVA will be a landslide for Hillary,

Which is a great litmus test showing why Trump is a hero.

Northern Virginia is where most of the DC federal gvt parasite class lives. Of course, they will support whichever one is the biggest thieving evil tyrant. Because their livlihood is dependent on keeping the globalist empire growing and bombing and murdering and taxing and money printing.

Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
952 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:12 am to
Hillary


This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 9:13 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:18 am to
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Northern Virginia is where most of the DC federal gvt parasite class lives. Of course, they will support whichever one is the biggest thieving evil tyrant. Because their livlihood is dependent on keeping the globalist empire growing and bombing and murdering and taxing and money printing.

I don't disagree with any of that. The rest of Virginia hates everything about NOVA, but Trump still has to make a case to them before he has a chance to swing their vote. Fiscal interests drive the choices of Virginia's brand of conservative. Tell them you'll lower their taxes and make it easier for them to run their business, and they'll pretty much vote for you no matter what. Trump hasn't done that effectively.
Posted by DrewDawg13
Athens
Member since Apr 2015
3495 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:27 am to
It's hilarious to me that people still believe these polls which are so biased.

Trump is gonna win and make America great again, the same way that Smart and Eason are going to win and make UGA great again. It's a great time to be alive!
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:35 am to
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I don't believe any of these msm polls. Where is the support for Hillary Clinton beyond the msm? Why don't people attend her rallies? Why does she have so few rallies? Why doesn't she ever hold a press conference? Where are her supporters? How come Trump has to turn people away from his rallies? Why are tens of thousands of people at all his events? WHy do all his videos and youtube speeches have millions of views and Hillary's have a few hundred? Why is there such a universal 24 hour hatred contest going on against Trump on every msm media network and Hillary gets none when shes an actual criminal?

Answer: Because Trump is winning and they know it.

Most likely all of the down-playing and making it look like HIllary is winning is so that when they kill him or otherwise somehow steal the election, you morons will justhink he was going to lose it anyway and will turn back on the Bachelorette or Survivor and eat another cheeto...






WHy would any campaign go out of there way to expose their candidate when the opposition is doing everything he can to completely derail his campaign?

What could Clinton do to shore up her support that would be more effective than what Trump is doing to destroy his own? Nothing....and you can be assured that Clinton is nothing if not an astute politician...the game is all about winning....winning support is not on the radar screen....Bernie Sanders had support out the arse...he is in Vermont wondering what the frick happened...it would be a YUGE mistake to under estimate the political intelligence represented by a Clinton campaign...and right now the smart money is on walking a thin line between having enough exposure to remain in the picture while not over exposing yourself to controversy.

The debates may prove this to be a bad gamble...Trump could come out and look very presidential...it ain't likely but it could happen which would force Clinton to rally the troops...but right now the play is to stay barely in the picture and let Trump do what Trump does...and thus far it is working like a charm....
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:43 am to
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I am by no means a Hillary Clinton fan, but a corrupt pragmatist is likely more reliable than a psycho.





We have a history replete with corrupt pragmatists in the whitehouse...countries who frick around and find themselves lead by a psychopath find themselves resigned to the ash heap of history....
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 9:54 am to
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but right now the play is to stay barely in the picture and let Trump do what Trump does...and thus far it is working like a charm....

Yes, she's staying barely in the picture by design, but it's not by some savy political chess move....it's simply because each time people see her face or hear her voice her numbers go down! Sane people universally hate that bitch. And rightly so. It's not rocket science.

Anyway. Both campaigns have their own internal polling, and they both know what the real score is. Trump is ahead. Which is why the msm is over-the-top trying to make boobus americanus believe the opposite. It's a desperate propaganda technique to try and demoralize some of his support. It's never been more out in the open like this in american history. Pretty incredible..
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:02 am to
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Yes, she's staying barely in the picture by design, but it's not by some savy political chess move....it's simply because each time people see her face or hear her voice her numbers go down! Sane people universally hate that bitch. And rightly so. It's not rocket science.

Anyway. Both campaigns have their own internal polling, and they both know what the real score is. Trump is ahead. Which is why the msm is over-the-top trying to make boobus americanus believe the opposite. It's a desperate propaganda technique to try and demoralize some of his support. It's never been more out in the open like this in american history. Pretty incredible..



Well there you go then...nothing to worry about...Trump has it won!
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:13 am to
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Fiscal interests drive the choices of Virginia's brand of conservative. Tell them you'll lower their taxes and make it easier for them to run their business, and they'll pretty much vote for you no matter what. Trump hasn't done that effectively.

I would like to hope that if people are smart enough to maintain their own businesses that they are smart enough to figure out that another 4 year continuation of Obama's economy and policies by Clinton would not be in their best interest fiscally..
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:19 am to
The media was saying Reagan had no chance either. I tend not to hang out with the dregs of society or welfare recipients so I do not see many Hillary supporters. Everyone I come into contact with is voting Trump so we will see...
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:20 am to
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I would like to hope that if people are smart enough to maintain their own businesses that they are smart enough to figure out that another 4 year continuation of Obama's economy and policies by Clinton would not be in their best interest fiscally..

They can't know that really. The status quo isn't ideal but is workable and known. Trump has yet to actually give any real solid plan for how to improve the current situation. It's not about wanting to choose Clinton. It's about not being able to choose Trump.

Also, Clinton economics are not really the same as Obama's. Hillary will do whatever the money says to do.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:42 am to
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Answer: Because Trump is winning and they know it.



jesus christ.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:46 am to
Why do you people keep saying Trump hasn't laid out his plans??

He has. Since day freaking one. It's all over his website. He has detailed his plans in dozens of rallies. He detailed his plans at the RNC convention for over an hour long speech. And last week he gave a press conference for an hour specifically discussing his economic policy and plans.

If you don't know what the frick his plans are then you're a blithering retard who only watches and reads leftist MSM. Not only doesn't the leftist MSM play video accounts of him detailing his plans, but they're the ones pushing the lie that he never talks about his plans. It's a lie and you're allowing them to lie to you. Why?

Get off your brain dead arse and do some searching. It's not hard. There's droves of videos of him discussing his plans and his website has it all there with dozens of videos of him giving very specific details of each possible topic.
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
3344 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:51 am to
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Answer: Because Trump is winning and they know it.


If you don't trust polls for some reason, you can always rely on the fact that people are motivated by self interests.

Here's a betting poll on presidency.

I don't think they want to let opinions and biases to cost them money.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 10:55 am to
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I don't believe any of these msm polls. Where is the support for Hillary Clinton beyond the msm? Why don't people attend her rallies? Why does she have so few rallies? Why doesn't she ever hold a press conference? Where are her supporters? How come Trump has to turn people away from his rallies? Why are tens of thousands of people at all his events? WHy do all his videos and youtube speeches have millions of views and Hillary's have a few hundred? Why is there such a universal 24 hour hatred contest going on against Trump on every msm media network and Hillary gets none when shes an actual criminal?

Answer: Because Trump is winning and they know it.

Most likely all of the down-playing and making it look like HIllary is winning is so that when they kill him or otherwise somehow steal the election, you morons will justhink he was going to lose it anyway and will turn back on the Bachelorette or Survivor and eat another cheeto...



Hey a-hole. You leave cheetos out of this.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:53 am to
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He has. Since day freaking one. It's all over his website. He has detailed his plans in dozens of rallies. He detailed his plans at the RNC convention for over an hour long speech. And last week he gave a press conference for an hour specifically discussing his economic policy and plans.

Yeah. He makes broad brush strokes at decreasing regulation, getting out of "bad deals," and creating more jobs in the US. Then, he talks about raising tariffs and taxes on companies that employ people overseas. Some deregulation that is.

Repeal Obamacare? I'm in. How are you gonna do that?

Replace bureaucrats with "experts"? What?

The only really targeted and fully described aspects of his economic policy is energy deregulation and shrinking the corporate tax rate, which are no-brainers for anyone who leans right. Frankly, he should focus more on those and stop talking so much about ridiculous shite.
This post was edited on 8/16/16 at 11:54 am
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 11:53 am to
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Trump is ahead. Which is why the msm is over-the-top trying to make boobus americanus believe the opposite.


There is no question that the media is biased against Trump. What I disagree with you on is that all of these polls showing Trump losing are in on some plan to keep him down.

Consider the Fox News poll. Obviously that network wasn't friendly to Trump in the primaries, but now they are fully on board with him.

Why then does their poll track consistently with the vast majority of other national polls? Their polling also accurately showed him dominating the GOP field in the primary.

So was Fox News polling accurately in the primaries and then switched to a rigged general election poll?
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:10 pm to
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Pretty much what Trump is doing.


Quite the opposite really. Trump has made a lot of money using overseas labor and doing deals with foreign countries. Now, he has limited his abilities to do this and upset many people who will no longer do business with him.

He was already a celebrity, rich and powerful. This, if anything, has harmed his brand. Sacrifice.
Posted by SumterCoDawg
Member since Apr 2015
5178 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:14 pm to
Get out here with your logic and put your tin foil hat back on like everybody else.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7003 posts
Posted on 8/16/16 at 12:14 pm to
It's not verbatim. I plagiarized myself but changed a few words so that I wouldn't find out.
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