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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:13 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:13 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
Thanks but I'm aware of how SS works. Please don't hold up China as the benchmark for how we should take care of our aging population. I don't disagree that there is work to be done in funding, potentially shifting the age at which a person is able to draw. SS was designed to keep people from dying in the streets at a very old age. People live longer now and should def save more money and probably shouldn't be able to draw until 70 now. But using rhetoric like "Ponzi scheme" is just a way to be provocative about a program you don't like. It's a good system IMO it just needs to be made sustainable and realigned with the original goal.
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:17 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
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I can't give you the exact date (and neither can anyone else), but the trendline is pretty clear.
We have arrived at my point. Thanks for owning it.
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self-interested thieves and murderers
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not rob you blind, that's your own prerogative.
As long as I live in a country I feel safe and my kids can have a great education and good healthcare and everything is affordable I am ok with that. It could always be worse.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:24 am to PDXDawg
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SS is a Ponzi scheme? Lol nice sound bite but a ridiculous assertion.
He's right. Yet another example of the double-standard that started this whole conversation.....
If a citizen points a gun at another citizen and demands he pay him a certain percentage of his earnings, then it's considered theft...a crime.....and that person goes to jail. But.........if the Feds point a gun at a citizen and demand a certain percentage of his earnings, they call it "taxes".......and people now somehow magically think it's legitimate.
Just like if a citizen pulls off a Ponzi Scheme, the Feds throw him in jail........(Just ask Bernie Madoff). But, if the Feds want to pull off a Ponzi Scheme called social security, it gets forgiven and rationalaized and ignored and apologized for.........
It's disgusting to me. These people are not Gods. They have no "right" to do the things they do. It's 100% illegitimate. And these two examples are just a drop in the bucket of what is going on........
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SS has literally kept starving senior citizens off the streets for decades. What do you propose we do?
For starters, close every military base located on foreign soil. Then, end the program immediately........and use the hundreds of billions saved to pay off the remaining SS dependents. Problem solved.
Next?
Sidenote: Isn't it shocking that a program that was sold as voluntary, that was sold as being put into a Trust Fund, that was supposed to have never been taxed, etc.........is now none of those things????
Of course it's not shocking. This was inevitable. And if that's not insulting enough....just think about how this disaster of a program that is being rationalized by morons as saving old ladies from starvation is also a system whereby we are tagged, numbered, and tracked like fricking cattle with our government issued SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS!!!!!!!!!!
Pure Evil. Wake the frick up assholes...............
This post was edited on 1/21/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:25 am to PDXDawg
I'm a little curious as to why you're so adamant in defending the government's mistrust in the average American's ability to plan for their own retirement. For as much as "The Greatest Generation" did that was admirable, they didn't do later generations any favors by buying lock & stock into the notion that the Federal Government is there to take care of us all. Social Security was NEVER supposed to be one's safety net. It was supposed to be an additional source of income that was totally supplemental to your own thoughtful retirement planning.
Somewhere along the line, the politicians realized at there was the opportunity for a massive cash grab, and they could sell it based on the fears of another Great Depression, citing the calamities that ensued from '29 onward as a way to convince people that putting thus money "safely away" with the government was the way to go.
Don't even get me started on how the income tax was to be temporary...
Somewhere along the line, the politicians realized at there was the opportunity for a massive cash grab, and they could sell it based on the fears of another Great Depression, citing the calamities that ensued from '29 onward as a way to convince people that putting thus money "safely away" with the government was the way to go.
Don't even get me started on how the income tax was to be temporary...
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:32 am to PDXDawg
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I don't disagree that there is work to be done in funding, potentially shifting the age at which a person is able to draw. SS was designed to keep people from dying in the streets at a very old age.
Oh, so it's okay for people age 67, 68, and 69 to "starve in the street," but not 70 year olds? This suggests the problem is not in how to pay for everyone, but how to decide who gets to eat and who doesn't. That runs pretty contrary to your belief that SS "keeps poor people off the streets," doesn't it?
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But using rhetoric like "Ponzi scheme" is just a way to be provocative about a program you don't like.
It's an "investment fund" with no actual investing going on, wherein older investors are paid a return from money from newer investors. That is the very same definition of a Ponzi. No provocation: the mechanics are exactly identical. You can call a turd a rose but it still smells like shite.
I will grant, however, that Ponzi schemes are a bit less morally repugnant given that I'm not coerced at gunpoint to invest in one.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:38 am to Jefferson Dawg
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It's disgusting to me. These people are not Gods. They have no "right" to do the things they do. It's 100% illegitimate. And these two examples are just a drop in the bucket of what is going on...
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Pure Evil. Wake the frick up assholes..............
It's never going to happen, Jefferson. If the Snowden leak didn't bring out the torches and pitchforks, then nothing will. All signs point to it getting worse before it gets better, because so few americans care to look behind the veil and question what is going on.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:43 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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As long as I live in a country I feel safe and my kids can have a great education and good healthcare and everything is affordable I am ok with that. It could always be worse.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money that will herald the end of the republic.” - Benjamin Franklin
We're doomed, and I hope our grandchildren have the mental fortitude to curse people like you who sold their futures so you could watch Dancing with the Stars and buy cheap shite at CostCo.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:46 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
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We're doomed, and I hope our grandchildren have the mental fortitude to curse people like you who sold their futures so you could watch Dancing with the Stars and buy cheap shite at CostCo.
ITS HAPPENING
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:48 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
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because so few americans care to look behind the veil and question what is going on.
So what's going on Mr. Conspiracy theory. Tell us about all these secret meetings and plots to destroy our country from the inside out.
Are you one of those that thinks Obama is a foreigner?
Was 9/11 an inside job?
Please enlighten me
Posted on 1/21/14 at 10:51 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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Tell us about all these secret meetings and plots to destroy our country from the inside out.
There aren't any: it's all out in the open. And if you could judge someone by their actions and not the hot air they blow around in the news, you'd realize that too.
Like I said: believe what you want to believe. The numbers are out there...it ain't me rolling the dice.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:00 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
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I hope our grandchildren have the mental fortitude to curse people like you who sold their futures so you could watch Dancing with the Stars and buy cheap shite at CostCo.
I usually demonize American Idol and the Kardashian brothel in my argument of the same stripe, but DWTS and CostCo work, too.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:01 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
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There aren't any: it's all out in the open.
Prove it. I only deal in facts
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Like I said: believe what you want to believe. The numbers are out there...it ain't me rolling the dice.
I've already shown you to talk out of your arse once so instead of providing a factual retort you regurgitate nonsense. When you stake a claim to something have some evidence to back it up.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:02 am to FreshPrinceofDubtown
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Oh, so it's okay for people age 67, 68, and 69 to "starve in the street," but not 70 year olds? This suggests the problem is not in how to pay for everyone, but how to decide who gets to eat and who doesn't. That runs pretty contrary to your belief that SS "keeps poor people off the streets," doesn't it?
No the idea was people are able to work longer now as we live longer now and have better health at a higher age. If they save enough then retire when you want to but not be able to draw SS until a more appropriate age, because people live much longer now than when it was implemented. I'm also open to means testing but I'm sure that will set some people off on this thread.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:08 am to PDXDawg
I'm going to respectfully bow out of this thread. You guys have fun.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:09 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I'm going to respectfully bow out of this thread. You guys have fun.
Good Riddance.
I was starting to feel ashamed of being a part of it after reading your shallow bullshite...........
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:11 am to PDXDawg
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It was supposed to be an additional source of income that was totally supplemental to your own thoughtful retirement planning.
I agree with this, and it can be. We don't have to blow the whole thing out of the water. We all benefit from a safety net. That's what it should be. I never said nothing should change, quite the opposite. But I don't think it's hopeless and should just be axed. That's my opinion, bash away.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:11 am to Jefferson Dawg
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Good Riddance.
I was starting to feel ashamed of being a part of it after reading your shallow bull shite...........
I hope the gov't takes your guns. You might hurt yourself with all that self conspiracy bullshyt you put out without any factual evidence. Good luck
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:12 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I hope the gov't takes your guns. You might hurt yourself with all that self conspiracy bullshyt you put out without any factual evidence. Good luck
Go away. You are an embarrassment.......
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:14 am to Prettyboy Floyd
You're not doing a very good job at the "bowing out" part.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 11:19 am to Prettyboy Floyd
quote:I wish that fate on no one, not even the crazies and the liberals (who are often the same people).
I hope the gov't takes your guns.
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