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re: Oh Nick Chubb
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:22 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:22 pm to SneakyWaff1es
I'm on my phone right now so I'm not gonna try to look it up, but I'd be curious to see their Freshman stats side by side. They both shared carries with others. Gurley had Murray slinging the ball around so he might not have had as many touches. But Chubb ran against a stacked box and only started 8-9 games.
No matter what you look at, there's probably no fair comparisons, just opinions.
No matter what you look at, there's probably no fair comparisons, just opinions.
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:29 pm to GeorgiaBoy
It's probably six of one a half dozen of the other. It's like comparing the Victoria Secret models, they may not all look the same on the runway but they would all get their fair share of toting these rocks.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:36 pm to SneakyWaff1es
Agreed!
Posted on 3/13/15 at 1:59 pm to WG_Dawg
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There isn't one single knock on Gurley relating to how he plays on teh field. The one thing that keeps coming up is "he couldnt' stay healthy. Chubb will have better numbers because he'll play more games. Etc".
I think it's crazy to assume that Chubb will never miss any time due to injuries and therefore put up better numbers. The reality of the situation is that he will probably miss a game or two at some point, players tend to get injured, especially running backs. I also don't understand why it is so hard to appreciate both players for the talents that they are. I have noticed that since Gurley was initially suspended people tried to knock on him in order to validate Chubb which is crazy because Chubb is a damn good player and doesn't need to be propped up. It's kind of weird how a lot of people were quick to adopt the "out with the old" mantra even when Gurley was still on the team.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:07 pm to Cherokee Chinstrap
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I think it's crazy to assume that Chubb will never miss any time due to injuries and therefore put up better numbers.
He missed a game last year due to injury. And still put up better numbers than healthy Gurley did in 2012.
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Chubb is a damn good player and doesn't need to be propped up.
Doesn't Gurley fall under the same category? Gurley is a great player. I don't think anyone was being negative about him.
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It's kind of weird how a lot of people were quick to adopt the "out with the old" mantra even when Gurley was still on the team.
Unfortunately Gurley was suspended for part of the season then injured for the rest of it...so why wouldn't fans look to the future? Especially when it's Chubb?
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:10 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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was suspended for part of the season then injured for the rest of it...so why wouldn't fans look to the future
Agreed. Especially considering his blatant disgregard for the team when kept doing it after being warned.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:14 pm to GeorgiaBoy
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It's like comparing the Victoria Secret models, they may not all look the same on the runway but they would all get their fair share of toting these rocks.
Agree! And I've never been down on chubb, I have nothing but great things to say about him and will reiterate that he has a very legit shot at a Heisman in his future. My only argument is and has always been that I don't think he's as good as gurley. Both they are both fantastic.
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I'm not gonna try to look it up, but I'd be curious to see their Freshman stats side by side.
Gurley:
Rush- 222 for 1385 (6.2), 17 TDs
Rec- 16 for 117 (7.3), 0 TDs
Ret- 7 for 243 (34.7), 1 TD
Chubb:
Rush- 219 for 1547 (7.1), 14 TDs
Rec- 18 for 213 (11.8), 2 TDs
Also I'm bored as nails so just for fun I looked up rushing defense numbers for both, excluding tomato cans like the buffalos and FAUs. Granted this ignores the pass defense on their receptions, but that stat would be insignificant to the data.
Gurley:
missouri- 49 (149)
Vandy- 38 (142)
UT- 85 (189)
SC- 17 (121)
UK- 62 (161)
UF- 4 (95)
OM- 25 (129)
AU- 97 (198)
GT- 41 (144)
Bama- 1 (76)
Nebraska- 90 (193)
Chubb:
Clemson- 5 (103)
SC- 105 (212)
UT- 65 (168)
vandy- 86 (184)
missouri- 27 (134)
ark- 12 (115)
uf- 13 (116)
uk- 89 (191)
au- 67 (169)
gt- 62 (168)
ul- 10 (109)
Numbers against the top 5 rush defenses each faced. And for the sake of an honest assessment, I'm not including clemson for chubb, since he only got 4 carries that game and was not the primary runner.
Gurley (bama, uf, sc, om, van), average of 17th best rush D, giving up 113/game
97 for 526 105 per game (5.4), 5 TD
Chubb (ul, ark, uf, miz, gt), average of 25th best rush D, giving up 128/game
147 for 896 179 per game (6.0), 6 TD
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:19 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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He missed a game last year due to injury. And still put up better numbers than healthy Gurley did in 2012.
Chubb did not miss a game last season.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:37 pm to WG_Dawg
Pretty damn close to even wouldn't you say? Glad both played/play for the good guys!
Posted on 3/13/15 at 2:48 pm to GeorgiaBoy
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Pretty damn close to even wouldn't you say?
Somewhat close, although chubb's numbers are better in most areas. I still wouldn't ever take chubb over gurley though, just my personal preference. There is nothing chubb can do on a football field that gurley can't. There are a few things gurley can do that we haven't seen from chubb yet.
Walter payton's best season in the nfl he rushed for 1,610 yards, which is abotu 200 yards less than tiki barber's. I certainly wouldn't call tiki the better running back.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:03 pm to WG_Dawg
Fair enough. If I had to choose one or the other, I'd take both! Not enough difference for me to give a shite either way.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:19 pm to WG_Dawg
Out of curiosity...someone mentioned Chubb fumbling. I remember him fumbling against Florida and GT, but that's it. (Not saying that is all...just saying that is all I remember) How many times did Chubb fumble? Was it a problem?
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:29 pm to DawgsLife
He fumbled 4 times last year and lost 2. 2(1) against UF and 1(1) against tech.
for reference todd fumbled 3 times with 2 losses in his career.
for reference todd fumbled 3 times with 2 losses in his career.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:33 pm to WG_Dawg
For reference, Gurley fumbled 3 times in his career and lost 2.
Posted on 3/13/15 at 3:35 pm to GeorgiaBoy
damn I must have beat you by a few seconds 
Posted on 3/13/15 at 5:22 pm to WG_Dawg
I guess so. I only looked it up because I don't ever remember Gurley putting it on the ground.
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