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re: Oh Nick Chubb
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:54 pm to dallasga6
Posted on 3/11/15 at 5:54 pm to dallasga6
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He had an a.m. workout scheduled today, but he spent the morning talking with middle school football players that are not acting right currently. That is the kind of stuff that don't make media, but he does it on his own.
He came and worked out afterwards.
This post was edited on 3/11/15 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:22 pm to BeefDawg
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Chubb seems a bit tougher/more durable and harder to bring down. He'll lower his head, hit you, knock you back, and then wrench his legs out of your grip and just continue running.
Riiiight and Gurley never did that.
Yall are about to go Grantham on Gurley.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:36 pm to dallasga6
And that damn sure won't make the AJC...
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:38 pm to dallasga6
I'm trying to put the over/under on the date when Nick Chubb will become my favorite player in Georgia Bulldog history?
I think I'm gonna go with October 10, 2015.
I think I'm gonna go with October 10, 2015.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:42 pm to BeefDawg
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Gurley has better vision and agility. He'll juke you and slip by you and maybe toss in a stiff-arm.
I strongly disagree, the Auburn game prove this statement incorrect.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 6:52 pm to DawgRff
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I strongly disagree, the Auburn game prove this statement incorrect.
Welp, you'll never make the smart person list.
Because you are a moron.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 7:00 pm to deeprig9
Nope! I say again, Gurley was special. Probably one of the top 10 college backs that Ive ever seen. But tell me, what did he do that Chubb can't do or hasn't done already? I'm Not taking anything away from Gurley, just giving Chubb the praise he earned.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 8:38 pm to DawgHolliday
One of the main differences between Chubb and Gurley is the difference between Chubb and Fournette that have some believing Fournette is - or will be - the better back.
Gurley looks like a total beast in pads. Chubb - not so much.
During our first game against Clemson, I was watching the game with a bunch of family members in in Alabama. They had heard a lot about Michel and Chubb and were looking forward to seeing them. Michel comes in the game, looks the part and plays well.
Then Chubb gets onto the field. My brother in law the Bama fan: "THAT'S Chubb????" And I kind of thought the same thing. He looked short, small, and his helmet looked to be about two sizes too big. I had to tell them he was built like a tank, but they had their doubts. Plus, I think he was stopped behind the line on his first run.
Then he ran through two Clemson defenders, lost his too large helmet, and carried on. Later he ran through the entire frickin' Clemson defense with one shoe on his way to the end zone. They then believed.
But with Gurley, you see him walk on the field and you know some defenders are about to need traction. And I think 'the look' factor does play a part in how Chubb is being judged. Not fair, but what the hey.
Gurley looks like a total beast in pads. Chubb - not so much.
During our first game against Clemson, I was watching the game with a bunch of family members in in Alabama. They had heard a lot about Michel and Chubb and were looking forward to seeing them. Michel comes in the game, looks the part and plays well.
Then Chubb gets onto the field. My brother in law the Bama fan: "THAT'S Chubb????" And I kind of thought the same thing. He looked short, small, and his helmet looked to be about two sizes too big. I had to tell them he was built like a tank, but they had their doubts. Plus, I think he was stopped behind the line on his first run.
Then he ran through two Clemson defenders, lost his too large helmet, and carried on. Later he ran through the entire frickin' Clemson defense with one shoe on his way to the end zone. They then believed.
But with Gurley, you see him walk on the field and you know some defenders are about to need traction. And I think 'the look' factor does play a part in how Chubb is being judged. Not fair, but what the hey.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:04 pm to GoldenDawg
So, the "eye" test is the only difference. Got it.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 9:41 pm to GeorgiaBoy
What concerns me is how often both of them got hit in the backfield. Obviously, defenses focused on the run with us but still.
I felt like Gurely was "different" too.
Chubb is a good kid as far as I can tell. We for sure don't need him to be our one trick pony. We should have learned that lesson.
I felt like Gurely was "different" too.
Chubb is a good kid as far as I can tell. We for sure don't need him to be our one trick pony. We should have learned that lesson.
Posted on 3/11/15 at 10:54 pm to GeorgiaBoy
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So, the "eye" test is the only difference. Got it.
Not what I said, but if it makes you happy ...
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:38 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Chubb would've hit 2000 yards last season had he started 13 games as well.
So would Gurley...he was on pace for 2000+ and that's including his 6 carries for 73 yards against Troy.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 7:47 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Chubb has everything Gurley has plus a little speed on the top end.
well that is simply false. For starters, Chubb isn't faster than gurley on the football field. I don't care what the numbers are when you line them up to run around a track oval, I (as have all of you on here) have seen every carry that both of them have had and it's not even really comparable that on the football field Gurley is faster. To Chubb's credit he did a good job of staying ahead of tacklers, but when gurley got past someone he was gone.
What else...well Gurley has proven to be extremely skilled out of the backfield. Chubb has caught a screen pass or two, but he hasn't proven to be the pass catcher or route runner that Gurley is. Gurley also has far more of a repetoire than chubb. MAke no mistake, Chubb is FANTASTIC at what he does, which is absorbing contact and keep moving. He's like MJD but definitely faster. HE's also shown that he can cut back when needed. But he isn't nearly as elusive as gurley. How many runs have we seen gurley be stopped behind the line then make a sharp cut for daylight? First TD against UF in 12, 2nd TD against clemson in '13, etc. We haven't seen chubb do that. Gurley had a deadly stiff arm. When comparing power clearly chubb is stronger (although that bama LB in 12 has probably never been hit harder by a RB before I would imagine). But when gurley put that arm out people went down. He can jump out of his shoes. Yes, I know chubb can jump, we've all seen the picture of him at the track meet. But gurley has not only leapt over standing defenders in a football game, he has gone airborne several times reaching for the pylon and turned it into points. I'm not saying "wow that's cool he can jump high", I'm saying it's one more dimension of his game that as of yet chubb has not shown.
Chubb also does his best when he is somewhat upright. Many of his highlight reel runs are having a full head of steam and bowling people over. You could have gurley wrapped up and a foot off the ground and he could escape. And for all the speed, hands, power, and agility that gurley had, the dude was simply athletic as frick. This run pretty much sums up gurley's game in one carry LINK. I'm not holding that against chubb, it's just that there really aren't many people playing college football that can do that. "We got him..oops. Got him now, no we don't. Got him this time, hold up. Ookkkk NOW he's down". That was gurley, looked like they had him, then he's gone.
Chubb is wonderful, he's borderline elite, and he should be a legit Heisman contender this season. But he's just not gurley. The only and I mean ONLY reason this is even a debate is because gurley was sidelined half his sophomore and junior seasons. That happened, I'm not trying to erase it..I'm just saying if we're playing a football game for the national title and I have to pick one non-herschel RB, it's Gurley and I'm not even thinking twice about it.
This post was edited on 3/12/15 at 7:52 am
Posted on 3/12/15 at 8:00 am to WG_Dawg
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he was on pace for 2000+ and that's including his 6 carries for 73 yards against Troy
Chubb had no carries against Troy, he just had screws put in his hand. He probably wasn't full speed with that hand until the end of the season. And that was a reply to someone that said Gurley was on pace for a 2000 yard season.
It's a pretty good problem to have...two of the best running backs the SEC has had since McFadden. Luckily we don't have to pick just one - we got to have both. Chubb looks faster to me - with and without a ball - so I'd pick him if I had to. Buuuuut I don't. I'm just glad we get to watch one of them again next year.
I'm really excited to see Sony play Healthy again. He's electric with a ball in his hands.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 8:06 am to SneakyWaff1es
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Chubb had no carries against Troy,
My post was in direct response to you saying "chubb could have gotten 2000 yards if he played all 13 games". I was simply saying that gurley could too, so that's not really a point in either one's favor.
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that was a reply to someone that said Gurley was on pace for a 2000 yard season.
oooooh ok, didn't see that part. I see now.
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Chubb looks faster to me - with and without a ball
that's fine, everyone's entitled to their own opinion. I just don't see how after watching 3 years of gurley and 1 year of chubb that one could draw that conclusion.
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I'm really excited to see Sony play Healthy again
YES. Our backfield should be tremendous.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 8:10 am to WG_Dawg
Good point, WG. I am not arguing on who is best or whatever, but from appearances Chubb will easily pass Gurley in all departments. Let's take their best years, for example (although Chubb was only a freshman):
Gurley - 2012 (2013 receiving was pretty good, though):
Att: 222; YDS: 1385; AVG: 6.2; LNG: 55; TD: 17
Receiving - 16; YDS: 117; AVG: 7.3; LNG: 23; TD: 0
Chubb - 2014 (only 1 season)
ATT: 219; YDS: 1547; AVG: 7.1; LNG: 83; TD: 14
Receiving: 18; YDS: 213; AVG: 11.8; LNG: 27; TD: 2
So, based off of comparisons, one can't really say who is better. Of course Chubb did that not starting every game last year - and eclipsed Gurley's best year. Any way one looks at it, there is NO drop-off from one to another.
Gurley - 2012 (2013 receiving was pretty good, though):
Att: 222; YDS: 1385; AVG: 6.2; LNG: 55; TD: 17
Receiving - 16; YDS: 117; AVG: 7.3; LNG: 23; TD: 0
Chubb - 2014 (only 1 season)
ATT: 219; YDS: 1547; AVG: 7.1; LNG: 83; TD: 14
Receiving: 18; YDS: 213; AVG: 11.8; LNG: 27; TD: 2
So, based off of comparisons, one can't really say who is better. Of course Chubb did that not starting every game last year - and eclipsed Gurley's best year. Any way one looks at it, there is NO drop-off from one to another.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:42 pm to Spaceman Spiff
I wonder what a SEC linebacker who played against both would say. The horse and speed of Gurley, versus the hard to find powerdriving Chubb.
I am not voting either way, I just wonder which causes the most pre-game stress to the defense.
I am not voting either way, I just wonder which causes the most pre-game stress to the defense.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 1:48 pm to Broncothor
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I just wonder which causes the most pre-game stress to the defense.
it would undoubtedly be gurley.
Chubb is outstanding at what he does, but his game isn't all that multi-faceted. He's just really, really good at doing what he does.
Gurley could do anything and everything to hurt a defense.
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:02 pm to WG_Dawg
I ask you again, what did Gurley do that Chubb hasn't/can't?
Posted on 3/12/15 at 5:16 pm to GeorgiaBoy
Umm I already answered that pretty clearly. Next time I'm at a computer I can type it again if you want.
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