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re: New evidence that Grantham's D was too complicated?

Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by Chef Leppard
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:10 pm to
Where would dogs be today if not for mike vick
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:16 pm to
Being spayed and neutered by Bob Barker.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 4:20 pm to
Where would Whale Wars be without tBob Barker?
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 7:38 pm to
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JHC said it was a big playbook as well


He was happy about it, though. Gave him a resupply when his Zig Zags ran out.
Posted by AlaCowboy
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:19 pm to
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For the life of me.. I can't understand how he got hired away with a PAY RAISE.



The UGA Alumni Fund is lower now than in December.

Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:52 pm to
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For the life of me.. I can't understand how he got hired away with a PAY RAISE.



Petrino: You have the luxury of knowing what I don't know, that Grantham's promotion, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives! You don't want the truth, because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me as Head Coach. You need me as Head Coach.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you", and went on your way.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 8:58 pm to
The playbook complication things are so overstated.

Pruitt is going to ask 3 times more from his players than Grantham asked last season.

The difference is that he will simplify the alignments (sequential formations, one word playcalls). We'll get lined up much easier with Pruitt.
But players are going to have to be better masters of technique (ie. Floyd in zone or holding the edge against the run).
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:13 pm to
It may have been complicated, but college offenses and defenses are very, very more complex than high school, so frankly, it is hard to say how complex they really were. I think the bigger issue is most players did not like him and that he held grudges against players. If he was affable and the D was kicking arse, no one would have said shite about his scheme...
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:30 pm to
I agree.

The ordeal about the playbook is that it was thick because it was simplified.

Each playcall has to fit against each offensive alignment and motion that the offense throws at you.
Instead of one page for the playcall, it illustrated for dummies how each player reacts to motions and formation changes.

It is one thing to give a kid a play and tell him to learn it.
It is another to tell him how that play is affected by the tight end flaring out or with a slot man in motion. Or how his keys change if the slot guy motions into a power run formation.

Pruitt is going to have linebackers doing safety responsibilities. He will have corners doing safety responsibilities. He will have DEs dropping into zone more often. Pruitt blitzes (run blitz especially) a lot and that means more players are going to have to cover responsibilities and techniques that are not to their natural strengths.
Posted by JimDawginTexas
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 10:32 pm to
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held grudges against players


Wasn't that the claim about Rodney Garner?

Wonder what our special teams complaint will be next year?

Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:15 pm to
When you have over half the defense looking at the sideline wondering what to do/where to go as the offense is snapping the ball, you have a huge problem.

When that happens all the time every game for the last couple of years you have a defensive coordinator that needs to hit the bricks.

It's that simple to me. And that obvious. I honestly don't think I have ever seen a defense as confused as ours at any level, let alone D-1 college ball. And it was happening with our veteran players.

No excuses. Good riddance Grantham. Period.
Posted by Dawgnational
Georgia
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Posted on 3/10/14 at 11:58 pm to
This post was edited on 3/10/14 at 11:59 pm
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:17 am to
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It's that simple to me. And that obvious. I honestly don't think I have ever seen a defense as confused as ours at any level, let alone D-1 college ball. And it was happening with our veteran players.


Fwiw, I have a source who told me Grantham added to the already large playbook weekly.
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:31 am to
For the sake of argument what will everybody say if Coach Grantham has tremendous success up at Louisville right out of the gate. Some of you will be eating a lot of crow pie.....

Secondly, I heard the Carrollton HS HC quit to become an analyst for the Cocks in Columbia and the school hired in some old geezer from the 1980's who is on his last leg. This after turning down the Thomson & Griffin HC who threw their hat in the ring...

This post was edited on 3/11/14 at 9:32 am
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:33 am to
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For the sake of argument what will everybody say if Coach Grantham has tremendous success up at Louisville right out of the gate. Some of you will be eating a lot of crow pie.....
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:35 am to
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For the sake of argument what will everybody say if Coach Grantham has tremendous success up at Louisville right out of the gate. Some of you will be eating a lot of crow pie.....


I am not certain that Grantham having immediate success at Loiusville will mean a whole lot, to be honest. For one, the level of competition is not nearly the same and secondly, Petrino will be putting a lot of points on the board, so a lot of teams will run out of gas just trying to keep up the scoring pace with them.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:37 am to
I honestly don't give 2 shits how he does at Louisville. He didn't get it done here. That's really all I care about.
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4989 posts
Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:41 am to
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It's that simple to me. And that obvious. I honestly don't think I have ever seen a defense as confused as ours at any level, let alone D-1 college ball. And it was happening with our veteran players.


If the same players are doing the same shite this season, then we will know that some of it was just that we have players too stupid to coach but, considering it was happening the whole time Grantham was here, including 2012 when we had lots of NFL talent on D, I am inclined to believe that it had SOMETHING to do with him.

Like Cracker said, it could be as simple as him just being too much of a douchebag and holding grudges with players and that made them not want to take instruction from him.

Either way, its inexcusable to field a D that looked so lost at almost all times.
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:43 am to
What veteran players were confused by granthams d ?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 3/11/14 at 9:44 am to
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