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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:53 am to Prettyboy Floyd
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:53 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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I would venture to say anything above 30 next year would be a miracle.
You act like results are going to be mirror images of each other. The two situations are not identical.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:56 am to davesdawgs
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If you visualize this threat, the TE blocks the LB on say the right side, the QB is a threat to run so the DB's and Safety on that side are in a no-win situation. If they come up to stop the QB or the pitch option then a receiver is left open and the QB simply throws the pass over the head of the DB for a potential big play. If they don't, then the QB or pitch option gets a nice rushing gain. The difference in the offense I'm describing and say GT's triple option, is the pass is an option on every down.
If this was possible, more teams would do it. You can't run block and pass block at the same time without getting all sorts of illegal man downfield/offensive PI penalties.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:07 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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This post was edited on 7/17/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:16 am to Crowknowsbest
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If this was possible, more teams would do it. You can't run block and pass block at the same time without getting all sorts of illegal man downfield/offensive PI penalties.
My understanding is that the illegal man down-field only applies to linemen. I'm not suggesting that linemen would be blocking down-field on a pass play but a TE or RB can definitely make a block and then get off the block and become a potential receiver. But I get what you are saying. For instance a WR can't block the defender covering him and then immediately catch a pass without offensive interference being called. It seems like a fine point but if a receiver makes a block on a defender (possibly fooling the defender into thinking it's a run on that side) and the defender gets off the block/stops covering said receiver to stop a potential running play, the receiver should at that point become legally eligible.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:19 am to AirDawg
Some of you guys suggesting spread and air raid type offenses seem to forget that we bring in talent because of our reputation on getting players to the NFL because of our pro style offense. That is why Jacob Eason is coming across the country to play for us. If we bring in an air raid or spread coach then you could say goodbye to Eason and potentially more. Personally, I am more satisfied with running down our opponents throats, than all the flashy crap that Oregon and TCU do
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:21 am to davesdawgs
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It seems like a fine point but if a receiver makes a block on a defender (possibly fooling the defender into thinking it's a run on that side) and the defender gets off the block/stops covering said receiver to stop a potential running play, the receiver should at that point become legally eligible
I don't think you could do that beyond the line of scrimmage. If you could, everybody would do it. It's an impossible route to cover.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:23 am to Goins
Hell, they need to have the sort of OL hire that's going to keep Ben Cleveland happy, too. That's quite a cornerstone to build your line around.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:24 am to Crowknowsbest
Semi related question. I read an article a good while back about using a 4 TE package and countless variations you can run if you have the personell. The way it was drawn up it looked almost impossible to defend. What are the liabilities in this?
I know chip kelly has toyed with this some. With our track record of recruiting big bruising tight ends isnt this an intriguing look. Love to see us try something like this
I know chip kelly has toyed with this some. With our track record of recruiting big bruising tight ends isnt this an intriguing look. Love to see us try something like this
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:26 am to Goins
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Some of you guys suggesting spread and air raid type offenses seem to forget that we bring in talent because of our reputation on getting players to the NFL because of our pro style offense.
This is a valid and good point. QB's that are better suited to pro-style offense are definitely attracted to UGA due to our reputation with Richt's offense. I'm just not sure if that is the best future for our team. Oregon is winning with prolific offense and solid defense. Florida and Auburn did the same thing with Tebow and Newton respectively. My opinion is that having a non-mobile pro-style QB does not provide the best offensive potential in college football and it's starting to look like the NFL is realizing the same.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:27 am to Chef Leppard
I don't see why you couldn't do it as long as you have a legal formation (enough guys on the LOS, etc.)
Eta- Stanford does a lot of that type of stuff
Eta- Stanford does a lot of that type of stuff
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:29 am to davesdawgs
While I'll agree with the trend, the Tebow/Newton/Manziel model of QB is the exception, not the rule. The "flashy" offenses typically need a physical specimen in the mold of one of those guys to work.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:31 am to davesdawgs
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My opinion is that having a non-mobile pro-style QB does not provide the best offensive potential in college football and it's starting to look like the NFL is realizing the same.
As a Redskins fan, I vehemently disagree. Bring on the statue QB
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:32 am to VoxDawg
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While I'll agree with the trend, the Tebow/Newton/Manziel model of QB is the exception, not the rule. The "flashy" offenses typically need a physical specimen in the mold of one of those guys to work.
I honestly think the trend has more to do with the QBs that are in college. I think the NFL would still rather have drop back passers if they had the choice.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:35 am to Crowknowsbest
Exactly, which is the sort of thing that kids like Eason see in UGA's offense and makes them want to come cross-country. If your goal is to be an NFL pro-style QB, spread offenses are the equivalent to a Liberal Arts degree.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:36 am to davesdawgs
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My opinion is that having a non-mobile pro-style QB does not provide the best offensive potential in college football and it's starting to look like the NFL is realizing the same
There's a reason why Brady, Manning, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, Stafford, Romo, Ryan, etc... Have sustained success in the league. The mobile guys come in, are good for a minute, but defenses are able to adjust. Defenses still haven't been able to adjust to well thrown passes and timing routes. The probably never will.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:40 am to VoxDawg
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If your goal is to be an NFL pro-style QB, spread offenses are the equivalent to a Liberal Arts degree.
If only that were true. Common misconception spread QB's that they cant play in the NFL or run pro style offenses is so outdated beyond belief.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:42 am to Prettyboy Floyd
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If only that were true. Common misconception spread QB's that they cant play in the NFL or run pro style offenses is so outdated beyond belief.
It absolutely helps a QB's pro development to play in that system in college.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:43 am to SthGADawg
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Dave Warner
this...we should offer him some serious dough.....he would be a great fit
If they hadn't already lost Pat Narduzzi to Pitt, I think we might have a shot...
MSU fans would go full on revolt if Warner left too. They'll pay him & promise him whatever it takes...JMO...
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:45 am to dallasga6
The sad thing is that we could obliterate East Lansing in a bidding war, but we know that that battle is lost before it's even begun, thanks to the teeth-pulling necessary just to lock down our remaining staff.
Posted on 1/5/15 at 11:46 am to Crowknowsbest
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It absolutely helps a QB's pro development to play in that system in college.
No it doesn't, Most of QB's being drafted are out of spread systems while the traditional QBs like Aaron Murray among others are being drafted late. The NFL don't give a damn about where a QB comes from. There is a reason Mariotta is at the top of most draft boards. This isn't the 90s.
Here is a link....how many of those QBs in the TOP 10 would you say come from a traditional offense.
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This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 11:49 am
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