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re: My sources tell me Tuesday.....it's Bloomgren

Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:43 am to
If it's not Bloomgren then the only other guy that I want is Dave Warner, but that's not going to happen.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:44 am to
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If it's not Bloomgren then the only other guy that I want is Dave Warner, but that's not going to happen.

I like him too.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:45 am to
Besides the oft injured Montgomery, can you name another Stanford WR without looking it up? This was NOT the same Stanford team that won the conference in 2012 and 2013. They were rebuilding on the OL, didn't have the typical bruising RB that Stanford needs (like Stepfan Taylor), and no, Hogan isn't a good enough QB to carry an offense that doesn't have a great running game.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:46 am to
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We need an OC that is a big fan of handing the ball off.


Bob Hall loves to hand the ball off. If this is our requirment.

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I don't care how well they recruit. I'm looking at what's on the field. Roper had Driskel and a true freshman at QB. That wasn't going to go well. Combine that with bad receivers and limited depth on the OL and you get the 2014 UF offense.


The offensive coordinators recruit these guys. So in the case of Bloomgren he should be omitted immediately. He obviously sucks at talent evaluation as well as doing his job. I would take Hogan over Mason based on his legs alone.


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I don't care how well they recruit.


You should


Not sure why you guys are defending Roper and Bloomgren. They both have proven that they are mediocre so I guess if they suck for us we can have something to blame.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:47 am to
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Besides the oft injured Montgomery, can you name another Stanford WR without looking it up? This was NOT the same Stanford team that won the conference in 2012 and 2013. They were rebuilding on the OL, didn't have the typical bruising RB that Stanford needs (like Stepfan Taylor), and no, Hogan isn't a good enough QB to carry an offense that doesn't have a great running game.


Whose fault is that....Here let me help you. THE COACHING STAFFS.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:48 am to
You're missing something here. It's much, much easier to recruit great HS football players to Georgia than it is to Stanford. This run they have been on is amazing considering the academic restrictions that school has in place. Stanford can't consistently reload and be a powerhouse every season; they will have some down years because of this.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 9:50 am
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:50 am to
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Stanford


Agreed that they've been on a tear, in spite of being handcuffed with their entrance requirements. "Harvard of the West," and all that.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:51 am to
It's also about realistic hires that fit our philosophy. Riley, Meachem, Helton, etc. are all spread guys. If they were hired they to would have to learn on the job.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:51 am to
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This run they have been on is amazing considering the academic restrictions that school has in place.



I can't argue with that. But lots of teams....Mizzouri for instance make do with limited talent to produce good offenses. It's just another excuse for him being mediocre.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:52 am to
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It's also about realistic hires that fit our philosophy.


It's obvious that our philosophy is outdated is if the best guys we can find to fit our philosophy fielded 2 of the worst offenses in college football.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:54 am to
Missouri has had one good offense since they've been in the SEC (2013) and that was when they had everything fall into place with a senior riddled roster combined with injuries at UGA and UF. Their academic restrictions are nowhere near Stanford's. Stanford is more on Vanderbilt's level.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:55 am to
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It's obvious that our philosophy is outdated


41 points per game says otherwise.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:56 am to
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Stanford is more on Vanderbilt's level.


Stanford out recruits mizzouri

LINK

LINK

They are far and away better than Vandy at recruiting. They recruit pretty well for an academically limited school.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 9:59 am
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:57 am to
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41 points per game says otherwise.


Regression is about to become the norm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:58 am to
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offensive coordinators recruit these guys

Roper recruited basically none of the offensive players at Florida. I think the only contributors were Treon Harris and Brandon Powell.

Bloomgren recruited great on the OL, which was his primary position. We'll have a BMac, Ball, and whoever the QB coach is to help with the rest.
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I would take Hogan over Mason based on his legs alone.

Sounds like you just want a different offensive style.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:58 am to
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Regression is about to become the norm

Why do you say that?
Posted by JCdawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 9:59 am to
How much of Stanford's success was directly related to Andrew Luck?
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:01 am to
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Why do you say that?


If we hire Roper or Bloomgren.

Do you believe we maintain 40ppg.


I would venture to say anything above 30 next year would be a miracle.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:01 am to
The last three years have been the three highest scoring teams we've ever had if I'm not mistaken. Pro style offense is still the best offense when the pieces are in place to run it. It's the best combination of big plays, physicality, power running, and ball control out there. You want these air raid guys but when's the last time any air raid offense has ever won anything significant? They put up big numbers against bad teams but bog down against really good defenses, and their own defenses usually suck.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 1/5/15 at 10:03 am to
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Roper recruited basically none of the offensive players at Florida.


My qualms with Roper are primarily his playcalling. If you want to see Georgia with no short or intermediate passing game and no effort in the screen game. Then Roper is your guy.
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