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Malcolm Gets Drafted By Patriots

Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:33 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:33 pm
Inside the Patriots draft room.


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Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/17/16 at 1:59 pm to
We really missed him this year. Richt wasnt such a great wr recruiter.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

Richt wasnt such a great wr recruiter.




It was one of his best positions recruited ya goober
Posted by BranchDawg
Flowery Branch
Member since Nov 2013
9830 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:43 pm to
AJ Green, Malcolm Mitchell, Marlon Brown, Chris Conley, Tavarres King, yeah he sucked at getting receivers.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

t was one of his best positions recruited ya goober


How many top 100 guys signed besides aj green and t king in 2008? Not many.

Our wr corp this year tells a story of poor recruiting. Otherwise, we wouldn't have missed Mitchell so much.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:51 pm to
01- Fred Gibson, Bama Adams
02- Bryan McClendon, Mario Raley
03- Sean Bailey, TJ Gartrell
04- AJ Bryant, Demiko Goodman, Kenneth Harris
05- Mohamed Massoquai, Mike Moore
06- Kris Durham, Tony Wilson
07- Walt Hill, Israel Troupe
08- AJ Green, Tavarres King
09- Marlon Brown, Rantavious Wooten
10- Michael Bennett, Lonnie Outlaw
11- Chris Conley, Malcolm Mitchell, Justin Scott-Wesley, Sanford Seay
12- Blake Tibbs
13- Reggie Davis, Uriah Lemay, Jonathan Rumph
14- Gilbert Johnson, Rico Johnson, Isaiah McKenzie, Shakenneth Williams
15- Michael Chigbu, Terry Godwin, Jayson Stanley

Bold= Major contributors, absolutely worth it
Italics= Not really major, but still made SOME impact or were counted on at some point

In looking back at this, the big thing I noticed was quantity...I'll give you that he didn't really sign a whole lot of WRs which surprised me. But he had very few complete and total whiffs over 15 years of recruiting. And even some of the whiffs were fairly highly regarded guys that we were happy about on signing day.

Richt had some issues with recruiting but WR wasn't one of them.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

How many top 100 guys signed besides aj green? Not many.


So michael bennett, kris durham, et al that weren't national 100 guys should simply be ignored because the number next to their name in high school wasn't high enough for your liking?

Good Lord.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 2:53 pm to
WR was an issue. What makes you think a player should be bold?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:02 pm to
Those are developmental stories more than recruiting ones, and Durham and Bennett left a long time ago. If we had guys like that on our last 2 teams, I wouldn't be able to make this claim so easily, but we haven't because of poor recruiting. Edit: just saw your recruiting list. Awful from 2012 forward. Thanks for proving my point.
This post was edited on 12/17/16 at 3:03 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Bold= Major contributors, absolutely worth it


quote:

What makes you think a player should be bold?


well...why don't you look at the players I bolded and tell me which ones you disagree with.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:06 pm to
Reggie Davis should be highlighted for being one of our worst players. Mastered the art of the choke.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:08 pm to
quote:


well...why don't you look at the players I bolded and tell me which ones you disagree with


So you're saying that you don't know why you bolded some players.

Riiiiight.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Edit: just saw your recruiting list. Awful from 2012 forward. Thanks for proving my point.


This was your point you dolt:

quote:

Richt wasnt such a great wr recruiter.


I then showed you all the WRs recruited under richt. You didn't say "only looking at the last 4 years", which would be laughably selective. YOU said that richt wasn't a great WR recruiter, I then showed you the great WRs to play here recruited by Richt.

But keep moving those goal posts.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

So you're saying that you don't know why you bolded some players.



You are too stupid to even insult.

I bolded the players as major contributors...because they were major contributors for us. Do you wear a helmet when leaving the house?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:12 pm to
Reggie Davis' major contribution is 1 catch per game over a 4 year career?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25553 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:13 pm to
Justin Scott Wesleys major contribution in college is about 25 catches for his career?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Justin Scott Wesleys major contribution in college is about 25 catches for his career?


He played a direct and extremely major part in beating two top-6 ranked teams.

Sorry if that doesn't meet your criteria of a major contributor.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32800 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:19 pm to
By referencing our struggles without Mitchell, it should have been more clear to you that the point was about our recent WRs, but my bad for not being more clear.

Now that we have that straight, let's talk about the awful 4 year period of 2012-15. You know recruiting is bad when Reggie Davis was your 3rd best over this time. Talk about an awful player.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

Reggie Davis' major contribution is 1 catch per game over a 4 year career?




He's been a starting WR and kickoff return man for 2/3 years. I'd call that a pretty major contributor.

Like dj, you're changing the argument to fit whatever narrative you're wanting to make. You have it in your feeble head that a player must have "X" amount of catches or "Y" amount of touchdowns to qualify as a "contributor". If a guy is a starter (at 2 positions at that) for 2-3 years, he's a major contributor. Because, ya know...he's contributing pretty heavily.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86438 posts
Posted on 12/17/16 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

the point was about our recent WRs, but my bad for not being more clear.


Understood, and thanks for the clarification.

quote:

Now that we have that straight, let's talk about the awful 4 year period of 2012-15


I guess you think I'll fight tooth and nail to argue with you but there's nothing to say...it's pretty clear for all to see that we took a major dip the last 4 years in that aspect. No disagreement here.
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