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Loran Smith on UGA's Heartbreakers
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:02 am
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:05 am to VoxDawg
Richt never liked him...
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:07 am to VoxDawg
Not clicking because I want to enjoy my day
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:18 am to BranchDawg
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Not clicking because I want to enjoy my day
this.
It's almost hard to comprehend the last minute heartbreakers we've had just in the last 5 years. We've had more in the last half-decade than many teams have in the last 50 years.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:22 am to WG_Dawg
He blames it on the culture and says Kirbs is trying to change it.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:24 am to Peter Buck
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He blames it on the culture
we didn't lose the 3 heartbreakers I'm thinking of (don't know if loran listed any more) because of culture. What an odd reasonsing.
We lost 1 because we weren't the better team and had zero DL depth. We lost one because we were the vastly inferior team and were only in it due to sheer herculean efforts late and a bonehead decision by 1 player. We lost another yet again because of 1 bonehead decision by a player.
I don't see waht any of that has to do with the "culture".
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:40 am to WG_Dawg
Oddly enough, I think your post just made the case for it being about the culture.
Three fluke plays. That's all they are. Two of them on tipped balls.
Frick this thread, now I'm mad at 9:30 a.m.
Three fluke plays. That's all they are. Two of them on tipped balls.
Frick this thread, now I'm mad at 9:30 a.m.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:42 am to WG_Dawg
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we didn't lose the 3 heartbreakers I'm thinking of (don't know if loran listed any more) because of culture. What an odd reasonsing.
If you consider discipline, attention to details, and strong fundamentals a bi product of culture - then an argument could definitely be made that it could have affected the outcome of those games.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:43 am to BranchDawg
im pretty sure you cant have a culture of bad luck but that's just me
maybe UT/AU were bad coaching (behind WR, not batting ball down, going for INT) but 2012 was just bad luck (even though we probably should have spiked the ball but they didnt want the defense to get set)
maybe UT/AU were bad coaching (behind WR, not batting ball down, going for INT) but 2012 was just bad luck (even though we probably should have spiked the ball but they didnt want the defense to get set)
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:54 am to WG_Dawg
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and a bonehead decision by 1 player. We lost another yet again because of 1 bonehead decision by a player.
This is the culture issue. Way too many undisciplined teams.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:57 am to BranchDawg
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I think your post just made the case for it being about the culture.
Three fluke plays. That's all they are. Two of them on tipped balls.
so wtf do fluke plays have to do with culture? We just hav ea culture of being unlucky?
Posted on 10/6/16 at 8:58 am to AthDawg7
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This is the culture issue. Way too many undisciplined teams.
sounds like an issue with 2 players, 1 of which wasn't on the team the following year.
Our coaches can harp on things time and time and time again, but they can't phsyically make the players do it. I don't think 2 goobers doing what they know they shouldn't reflects on the "culture of UGA football".
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:06 am to WG_Dawg
No, I meant your post, while saying the plays had nothing to do with culture, actually created an argument for it being culture. You talked about DL depth, boneheaded decisions, bad fundamentals.
Those are culture issues. I don't think that's the reason. I agree that it's pure dumb luck, which is why I said three fluke plays.
Those are culture issues. I don't think that's the reason. I agree that it's pure dumb luck, which is why I said three fluke plays.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:11 am to VoxDawg
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Loran Smith on UGA's Heartbreakers
Spot on from my perspective. Ironically (much of Christianity is about discipline), Richt did not believe in strict discipline. Yes, he was quick to kick players off the team for major offenses but his attitude about penalties seemed to be that you don't want to over emphasize eliminating penalties for fear of stifling the aggressiveness of your players. I never agreed with this philosophy and I agree with Loran that penalties have cost us dearly in some big games.
I would add that since 2007, when Richt encouraged our entire team to run out on the field after that first TD vs Florida, the game officials seemed to increase their focus on our team in terms of penalties. A good example was that ridiculous celebration call against A.J. Green vs LSU in Sanford Stadium. The ensuing penalized kickoff led to excellent field position for LSU who proceeded to drive down the field for the winning TD.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:20 am to GurleyGirl
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2007, when Richt encouraged our entire team to run out on the field after that first TD vs Florida
no the frick he didn't. Why do people still think this after 9 years?
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:25 am to WG_Dawg
I mean he did want the starting 11 on offense to celebrate until they drew a flag.
I remember watching a video of him talking about it.
He didn't want the entire team to do it, but he did want the offense to do it.
And I agree with this article btw. We were always a pretty heavy penalized team under Richt.
Like gurleygirl said, he didn't put a stop to the dumb shite on the field. It's just another thing Kirby has to do. You don't see some bench warmer at bama running onto the field after a touchdown bc Saban would lose his shite on that guy.
I remember watching a video of him talking about it.
He didn't want the entire team to do it, but he did want the offense to do it.
And I agree with this article btw. We were always a pretty heavy penalized team under Richt.
Like gurleygirl said, he didn't put a stop to the dumb shite on the field. It's just another thing Kirby has to do. You don't see some bench warmer at bama running onto the field after a touchdown bc Saban would lose his shite on that guy.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:27 am to Bulldawg2010
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I mean he did want the starting 11 on offense to celebrate until they drew a flag.
that is correct. Which is not the same as
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Richt encouraged our entire team to run out on the field
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:42 am to VoxDawg
I wish Loran would just go away. Munson used to cut him off when he would start rambling about some benchwarmers mom making cookies for the team. Donnan even ripped into him after a stupid question in his first post-game interview. He needs to hang it up already.
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:51 am to Chili Dawg
I wish you would go away
Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:53 am to Chili Dawg
Donnan fricking hated him... in fact, I don't know many who think he is a swell guy. He is a hanger on from a rich daddy and still hangs on due to $$$
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