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re: Loran Smith on UGA's Heartbreakers

Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:53 am to
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:53 am to
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quote:2007, when Richt encouraged our entire team to run out on the field after that first TD vs Florida no the frick he didn't. Why do people still think this after 9 years?


Yea, because it's completely normal for an entire team to run out on the field after their first TD in a game. Clearly Richt strictly counseled them about not doing such a thing and they obviously disregarded his directive.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 9:55 am to
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they obviously disregarded his directive.


they did. I'm not sure why people struggle so mightily with this concept.

It was the bench that, totally on their own, decided to run onto the field. Richt was just as surprised by it as you or me.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 10:02 am to
Sorry, this account disagrees with your version: LINK

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Nearly 70 Georgia players rushed the field, joining their teammates near the end zone in a wild celebration. They were ahead by a touchdown with 51 minutes to go, but they acted as if they were going to Disney World. Not surprisingly, this bizarre display earned 30 yards of penalties. Was the coach upset? No. He was almost smirking.
“Coach Richt never specifically told us to run out there,” Rennie Curran, then a freshman linebacker, recently told me. “What he did say is, ‘I want you guys so excited that they’re going to have to penalize you.’”
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 10:11 am to
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this account disagrees with your version


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“Coach Richt never specifically told us to run out there


It 100% agrees with me. What facts aren't getting through here?

-Richt DID tell the offense to get a penalty for celebrating. And if you watch the replay you can see knowshon adn someone else doing fake camera pictures of each other.
-He did NOT tell the entire team to do something, nor did he tell anyone to leave the bench. I mean it's really clear cut here.

Here's some more proof, although I'm not sure how or why it's needed:

quote:


"Two weeks ago when our preparation began for the Florida game, I told the team that we have got to have more energy and enthusiasm in this ball game or we are going to get whipped pretty good,"
Richt wrote in his letter to Slive. "I said, as a matter of fact, when we score our first touchdown, I expect you guys to celebrate to the point where the official will throw a flag for excessive
celebration.

Richt said he thought only those players already on the field would celebrate. Instead, virtually the entire team charged into the end zone. "On the day of the game I re-emphasized to the team that this
was not going to be an individual celebration, but a team celebration," Richt wrote. "Again, I was expecting the 11 players on the field to be doing the celebrating, not for the bench to clear as it did."

Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 12:57 pm to
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You don't see some bench warmer at bama running onto the field after a touchdown bc Saban would lose his shite on that guy


All time best one has to be - oddly enough - at da U, where Sebastian the Ibis got flagged for celebrating in the end zone after a score. And yeah, the coach looked ready to strangle him.
Posted by FaCubeItches
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:04 pm to
To be fair, these quotes don't exactly square:

quote:

I re-emphasized to the team that this
was not going to be an individual celebration, but a team celebration


quote:

I was expecting the 11 players on the field to be doing the celebrating, not for the bench to clear as it did


If he "re-emphasized" (i.e., said more than once) that it was to be a "team celebration," then he can't really claim surprise that the team - which is more than 11 players - celebrated. Chalk it up to Ma Bell and ill communication, I guess.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 1:53 pm to
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was not going to be an individual celebration, but a team celebration


correct, as in...not one person hamming it up, the whole team on the field getting pumped

quote:

I was expecting the 11 players on the field to be doing the celebrating,


seems pretty clear


I can't remember now who exactly it was, but one of the bench guys came out and flat out said it was his doing and did it without richt's knowledge. He said that he went and told the bench to run on the field. I mean, you can tell your 4 year old not to drink coke and if he ends up drinking a beer it doesnt' mean you didn't do your job right.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 2:37 pm to
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that it was to be a "team celebration," then he can't really claim surprise that the team - which is more than 11 players - celebrated. Chalk it up to Ma Bell and ill communication, I guess.


Is it really that hard to figure out that he meant the" team "on the field of play???

Do you really think he wanted to empty the bench?
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 3:16 pm to
Still a penalty either way....encouraged by Richt.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 5:19 pm to
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Is it really that hard to figure out that he meant the" team "on the field of play???

Do you really think he wanted to empty the bench?


It's immaterial what he wanted. The fact is, his own statements are - giving him the benefit of the doubt - VERY ambiguous. He'd get eaten alive on that inconsistency by anyone who knows how to examine a witness.

I know you're a charter member of the Liebstandarte SS Mark Richt, but he said what he said, and there is no direct way to spin it as "only the guys on the field"
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 5:43 pm to
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know you're a charter member of the Liebstandarte SS Mark Richt,


Yea you're right,he encouraged the WHOLE team to get on the field.
Doesn't really matter what the player's,CMR or anyone says to contradict
your absurd premise.



Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:18 pm to
Christ, you're fricking thick.

Richt (PBUH) himself said "the team". That's not a premise, it's his - sorry, His - own words, which he - sorry He -, also in His own words "re-emphasized" (i.e., He didn't contradict Himself). Mayhap your God hath misspoke, though that calls into question His divinity, which in turn calls into question your entire reason for existence.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 10/6/16 at 6:36 pm to
NM
This post was edited on 10/7/16 at 8:33 am
Posted by germandawg
Member since Sep 2012
14135 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 7:47 am to
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this.

It's almost hard to comprehend the last minute heartbreakers we've had just in the last 5 years. We've had more in the last half-decade than many teams have in the last 50 years.





While we haven't won any like UT won this latest on we have had our share of pretty good last minute wins.

"The Play" was on par with UT's Hob Nail Mary.....and was actually bigger unless UT manages to win the National Title.....in 1996 we tied Auburn on a similar play and won that game in OT....

We beat Clemson once upon a time on a 60+ yard field goal (I destroyed a Wendy's sign in Mableton over that incident....should never have listened to Munson and drove at the same time....).

Lewis Grizzard once wrote that the highs are never as high as the lows are low....a fine and pleasant misery is a big part of being a fan of any team...If you are old enough to remember Vince Dooley football at UGA we won so many games we had no business even being in that our recent spell of bad...even horrible.... beats is just old fashioned karma....
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:13 am to
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Still a penalty either way....encouraged by Richt.


correct, which has nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:14 am to
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we have had our share of pretty good last minute wins.



yeah that's definitely true, I wasn't saying we are only bad luck and no good luck. Just pointing out that the last 5 years we've had more heartbreaking endings than many schools have in decades.

I do know one thing; when kirby takes us up another level and the day comes we do finally win a title again, UGA fans are going to be the most obnoxious on the planet. And I can't wait.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 10:48 am to
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Still a penalty either way....encouraged by Richt.


Ironic that at the time it happened everybody was pumped up and excited that the team showed some fire and emotion. Now we have whole groups of people criticizing Richt for encouraging emotion, while that same group of people criticize him for not showing any emotion or fire.


I wonder what the people on this board really wanted to see out of Mark Richt....emotion, or none? I'm pretty confused.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:25 pm to
And that was the problem. A lack of discipline that stemmed from players not fearing their coaches admonition of going against his direction. He directed a group of players (the offense) to draw a penalty for celebration and the whole team went. Lack of discipline which was part of the Richt culture.

Just like how for several years he allowed our team sidelines to look like a bunch of clubbies competing for space on the raised platforms. Except the platform was the bench on the sidelines where they would jostle for position to be shown on the Jumbotron. He fostered that culture and allowed it to thrive.
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:26 pm to
Those players had no fear of Richts reprisal for doing so. Culture.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/7/16 at 9:45 pm to
He kicked people off and suspended all the time. How could people not have fear? Explain?
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