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Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:22 pm to CantonDawg15
Haha the Pats don't let rookies talk to the media after games so Radi and the rest of the media are pissing and moaning about not being able to talk to Brissett. 
Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:49 pm to SumterCoDawg
The excuse making and deflecting to the point of being antagonistic.
Also some of the on field coaching seems to be a little reactionary. I'm not talking about making adjustments. I'm talking about stuff like the QB management of the Nichols state game and there was some stuff during the Mizzou game that baffled me. I do need to go back and rewatch it though.
Also some of the on field coaching seems to be a little reactionary. I'm not talking about making adjustments. I'm talking about stuff like the QB management of the Nichols state game and there was some stuff during the Mizzou game that baffled me. I do need to go back and rewatch it though.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 6:33 am to athenslife101
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I'm talking about stuff like the QB management of the Nichols state game
It was his second game as a head coach with a veteran QB that is a head case and a freshman QB with no experience. Give the guy a break. If there's a game that you flip flop QBs around to test some things out, it's definitely the Nicholls State game. You don't wait until the meat of the schedule to go testing out which QB you want to play.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:14 am to FlatwoodsForester
Kirby hates Chip Towers because of the week after CMR was fired. I hate Chip Towers because Chip Towers is the worst "journalist" I've ever read and has no business covering anything but U8 girls softball. It's a Chip Towers thing not a media thing. And how can you blame CKS about being pissed off that UGA has no significant talent on the o line and Nicholls d-line looked like Bama?? He knows it's an 8-4 season, and the fact that he doesn't like it is a good thing.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:17 am to Hobnailboot
Does a coach with no talent on the line redshirt at 300 plus lb 5 star recruit lineman?
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:34 am to deeprig9
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There could be FAR worse situations to deal with other than UGA in 2016. Inherited 2 top 10 recruiting classes and had a hand,along with CMR,in a 3rd (Including the best FR QB in the country)
Sorry,McElwain had a pretty easy time adjusting along with Mahlzan in their first years.They seemed thankful for the oppurtunity and if a first time HC is pissed about taking the head job at UGA than he sure as Hell needs to reevaluate WTF he's doing here.
Having said that,I HIGHLY doubt he's pissed about the situation or the HC posistion. Look at Saban,he's always pissed no matter what the situation.
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You are a gimp.
He's right, Deeprig.
However, I don't think Smart is upset with not having talent, RD. He has lots of talent, as you pointed out. However, I think what Smart is frustrated with, is the talent he has does not fit what he is trying to do. It's good, solid talent, but when you are used to Alabama talent, it is frustrating. The players has inherited can't do what he wants them to do. Some of the players may not have bought in to his offensive/defensive way of doing things. It takes time. We have to give him a few years.
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And yes, Deeprig. I know I am a gimp.
This post was edited on 9/23/16 at 7:37 am
Posted on 9/23/16 at 7:55 am to Crowknowsbest
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"This is why you don't play" is pretty fricking tame actually. Encouraging, even. Basically saying that you're good enough to play if you cut out the stupid shite. That's way better than the alternative of not doing stupid shite and still not playing.
It is very tame....what the hell else is a coach going to say.....hell most football parents would tell their kid that simple truth....I know my Dad would have...hell my Mama would have....coach wouldn't have had to say it because Granny would have been screaming it at the top of her lungs! That coupled with all sorts of references to the shortcomings of the other side of the family....
Football is a fricking brutal sport played and coached by people who happen to have a bit of a mean streak in them...some more than others....if you don't have a little bit of cruelty in your soul you will wind up getting hurt because the other 21 people on the field don't get bent out of shape when someone gets injured, either physically or mentally...at this level there is nothing a coach can say to a kid that he hasn't heard from a coach before....it just rolls off their backs....these kids have been playing the game since they were 6 or 7 years old.....and even at that level their coaches and their parents would tell them what a low life piece of shite they were if they made a mistake....
On another note this is why I don't think football as we know it survives another 3 generations....soccer is much cheaper at the local youth level and it allows for feelings and social training where as football at its heart is a brutal contest pitting one group of pissed off mean bastards against another group with a rule book enforced by another group of pretty ill motherfrickers....it just ain't going to be tolerated by snowflakes whose parents can't tolerate their little angel being told that the best part of him wound up in a puddle under his mama's arse....
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:07 am to Peter Buck
quote:If he's not ready to play, then yes. Just because he's big and strong doesn't mean he's ready for SEC competition.
Does a coach with no talent on the line redshirt at 300 plus lb 5 star recruit lineman?
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:35 am to SumterCoDawg
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If he's not ready to play, then yes. Just because he's big and strong doesn't mean he's ready for SEC competition.
However, if you have "no talent" then you might as well give the promising young guy experience.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 8:46 am to DawgsLife
quote:So we should burn a year of eligibility to give him some experience, even if he's not ready? Who would he play over? Wynn has a guard spot locked down, Kindley has surpassed Cleveland and Lamont hasn't played too bad. Some of you people....
However, if you have "no talent" then you might as well give the promising young guy experience.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:17 am to SumterCoDawg
Sorry, but if your line talent is as bad as some here allege, you are not redshirting a 5 star EE guard who is already SEC size...
Granted, I get why he is redshirting.... I'm saying if a coach had a line in that bad of shape as alleged, that kid would be playing.
Granted, I get why he is redshirting.... I'm saying if a coach had a line in that bad of shape as alleged, that kid would be playing.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:20 am to SumterCoDawg
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So we should burn a year of eligibility to give him some experience, even if he's not ready?
Burn a year? how is it burning a year if he is gaining valuable experience? If he is the most talented player, you play him, don't you think?
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Wynn has a guard spot locked down,
You need to watch Wynn closer, then. he is not exactly burning things up. And, as some have pointed out, our OL isn't exactly tearing things up.
However, I am not one that feels strongly about this. I think the BIGGEST problem our OL has had, has been we have been outnumbered in the box.
But, need I point out, you were the one that said we had no talent on the OL. now you are arguing they are doing a good job?
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Some of you people....
You are correct here. Which is it? is the OL doing well as you are now arguing, or are we without talent as you were arguing earlier?
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My apologies. it was not you saying we had "no talent" on the OL. it was Hobnail Boot. And our response was aimed at this line of thinking. I think Peter Buck and I both understand why Cleveland was redshirted. What we are arguing is that we have talent along the OL.
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Posted on 9/23/16 at 9:34 am to DawgsLife
quote:B/c he has enough people ahead of him on the depth chart that he'll get redshirted barring a string of injuries.
Burn a year? how is it burning a year if he is gaining valuable experience? If he is the most talented player, you play him, don't you think?
quote:I would agree with that, I don't think our OL talent is as bad as some people on here say it is, just that often times we are literally outnumbered in the box.
What we are arguing is that we have talent along the OL.
I think Kirby has shown through the amount of Freshmen he's played that if you're good enough to get on the field, then you'll get on the field.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:01 am to SumterCoDawg
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B/c he has enough people ahead of him on the depth chart that he'll get redshirted barring a string of injuries.
Understood. but the argument was we don't have any talent along the OL.
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I would agree with that, I don't think our OL talent is as bad as some people on here say it is, just that often times we are literally outnumbered in the box.
We are on the same page, then. I think you, me and Peter buck all agree. We were not arguing that Cleveland should NOT be red shirted. We were arguing that if we have no talent across the OL, then why would he redshirt Cleveland?
I think we have several on the OL that will go and play in the NFL.
People on here sometimes take a simplistic approach as to why we underperform, when it is a lot of reasons. We are outnumbered in the box. Scheme is different and Kirby does not have the players that can carry out his scheme. Many on here want to turn around and point their fingers at Richt, when in truth, Richt left talent everywhere. There are other reasons we do not look as good as we could, and they have nothig to do with Richt or Smart, for that matter.
We will see improvement as the year goes on, I think. And that is the key.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:02 am to SumterCoDawg
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I think Kirby has shown through the amount of Freshmen he's played that if you're good enough to get on the field, then you'll get on the field.
Absolutely. They are getting much needed experience, and they are his first class. Hopefully in year 3 and four we will see a veteran, poised team that plays with attitude and confidence.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:35 am to DawgsLife
Gotcha, there are like 4 different discussions/arguments going on in this thread and some walls of text I didn't take the time to read but it sounds like we're on the same page. If teams just had 6 or 7 in the box and Chubb was getting 50 yards a game then it would be a major cause for concern, but that hasn't been the case so far.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 10:38 am to LedDawgK
quote:I normally love Radi but he has to stop the bitching and moaning about not being able to talk to Eason/Freshmen, it's beyond annoying at this point.
the Pats don't let rookies talk to the media after games so Radi and the rest of the media are pissing and moaning about not being able to talk to Brissett.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 11:53 am to SumterCoDawg
On the last offensive play of the game, Mizzou rushed 6 and went all man with no safety. On 4th and 10. They didn't think we had the receivers that could beat them in man. We did, but it was close.
As soon as we make the opposing team's linebackers make a read rather than shoot gaps with wreck less abandon, we will be able to run again.
As soon as we make the opposing team's linebackers make a read rather than shoot gaps with wreck less abandon, we will be able to run again.
Posted on 9/23/16 at 12:12 pm to Peter Buck
I agree. I wish we would run more counters to use the Defenses agressiveness against them.
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