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re: I think its time we burn this bitch down
Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:26 pm to FaCubeItches
Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:26 pm to FaCubeItches
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A burning bush? A still small voice?
But that is probably what we need
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HRD
We generally agree but idk if I'd want Leach here. Not because of a lot of the shite reasons that can be thrown around like he's at Wazzu and what does that prove. He has taken to cellar dwellers and drastically improved them. Wazzu lost to Portland State and that is bad but they are also one of the best FCS teams going. They went on to beat North Texas something like 66-10. North Texas a few weeks later lost to UT 24-0. Portland State is no joke. Leach has also proven he is an offensive genius. Sure, his system has fallen on it's face plenty of times and a lot of times his defenses have been less than stellar (offensive style may play a big part in that).
That all said, I just see too many potential pitfalls. He has never been a great recruiter which is fine considering he only needs players to fit his system. This is why he is awesome with midtier programs. You know that and I bet with our talent and pipeline an offense like his could be ridiculous. But, I just don't see him getting the same caliber of players that Richt is currently wasting.
I also think his style is built to win most of it's games but against a talented, athletic defense it is pretty pedestrian. He absolutely has won big games against notable competition like against Texas but then Oklahoma exposed it for what it was. I also really really don't see an offense that runs so little working in the SEC. I understand that they design passes to act as a run game but I just have trouble seeing a game be managed in that way.
Finally, I like Leach but we know he's an oddball. Sadly our university needs a guy who is great at kissing arse, appeasing the dorks in our fan base who believe in this "Georgia Way" myth and etc. He's pretty abrasive.
I respect Leach and I wanted to post this because I wanted to agree with you arguing with other folks about his validity as a coach. I think he's far more innovative than Richt. I just can't see him successfully leading a program like Georgia. What I truly dream of is moving toward more of a spread style, like Clemson. Maybe get Chad Morris in a few years when Richt's ability to back his way into another year finally runs out.
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Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:33 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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You mean Nick Saban in 2008? I don't know if you remember. They came to Athens with mostly mediocre talent and beat the ever living shite out of us. The two elite players on that squad were true freshman
Uhh, so you're saying that Saban wins with good talent rather than elite?! Keep up with recruiting rankings much? Any program can point to upsets. My challenge, and I've noted the dodge, was which SEC HC consistently wins with good talent rather than elite talent. I already know there ain't one. You have to have elite talent to consistently win in the SEC. Every idiot knows that, even Spanky. CMR should be in the hot seat, and he is. But to "burn this bitch down" at this point would put us in the same rebuilding shape as UT. UGA doesn't have to rebuild if a coaching change is done right. Burning it down ain't the right way.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 5:54 pm to SneakyWaff1es
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but if his offensive line has the huge gaps between them that they had when he was at Texas Tech it works get ugly.
It does. This is the Air Raid that he ran as OC at Kentucky with Mumme. He had no issues scoring there. In fact, that was the best run that Kentucky has had in fifty+ years, if not ever.
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but Mullen has actually proved he can field an offense in the West. If Mullen had a DC like Pruitt Georgia would be something to behold. They were actually really stout on defense the first time Diaz was the DC there, I'm not sure what happened.
Ah...this is about Leach v. Mullen. I can't comment much on Mullen, other than respecting that he has taken a traditional bottom dweller and elevated them to a contender of sorts without the ban hammer coming down on the school.
Mullen may be real. I can't say. I haven't followed him or studied him. But I know Leach is real. He will have people rethinking their games in the SEC, should he find a home in the conference.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:00 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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also really really don't see an offense that runs so little working in the SEC.
Again. Leach developed and ran the Air raid with Mumme at VSU, and took it into the SEC at Kentucky as Mumme's OC. The same offense.
While Leach was there, Kentucky was breaking SEC and NCAA records with offensive production. The D, however, left much to be desired.
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Finally, I like Leach but we know he's an oddball. Sadly our university needs a guy who is great at kissing arse, appeasing the dorks in our fan base who believe in this "Georgia Way" myth and etc. He's pretty abrasive.
Yep. I accept this. I know he won't find a home here. I love talking about it, though, if only because the Mark Richt shite suckers seem to hate this guy so much.
That said, there will be a lot of looks at Leach, and there will be several vacancies in the SEC at the end of the year. Stoops is probably gone at kentucky...do you think Leach may return? Do you want that?
I fricking don't. He will whip Richt's arse yearly.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:02 pm to FaCubeItches
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Well, we already had one record-breaking offense that didn't win us anything. Not sure we want to risk that again.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:03 pm to Whiznot
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I follow individual sports like golf and tennis where the young do amazing things.
That's the thing with individual sports - they rarely involve 11 other guys trying to rip your head off.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:07 pm to FaCubeItches
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That's the thing with individual sports - they rarely involve 11 other guys trying to rip your head off.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:07 pm to HellRaisingDawg
Leach at UK would be pretty awful. We'd have to face a fully committed air raid and fully committed triple option team. That'd drive me nuts
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:10 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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We'd have to face a fully committed air raid and fully committed triple option team. That'd drive me nuts
I'd drive to the Suwanee and eat mescaline all weekend of the Kentucky game. That game with Corey Phillips at QB (a win) aged me twenty fricking years...
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:16 pm to Spunky
Oof....pretty sure this was meant as praise, but it reads fairly damning:
"But Georgia did more than answer questions in Saturday’s overtime victory over Georgia Southern. The Bulldogs and head coach Mark Richt made a statement. And in the process, Richt picked up a career defining victory and saved Georgia’s dream season and hopes for a state championship." {Emphasis added]
From here
"But Georgia did more than answer questions in Saturday’s overtime victory over Georgia Southern. The Bulldogs and head coach Mark Richt made a statement. And in the process, Richt picked up a career defining victory and saved Georgia’s dream season and hopes for a state championship." {Emphasis added]
From here
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:25 pm to FaCubeItches
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The victory required a masterful performance from Greyson Lambert, who inches closer and closer to securing the quarterback job every week. Lambert needed just 25 pass attempts to rack up nearly 185 passing yards, and his two carries for a loss of twenty yards were notably better than losing more than 20 yards on the ground.
Isaiah McKenzie, Mr. Do-Everything, was masterful once again, accounting for 37 all-purpose yards on six touches while fumbling for a TD return only once.
Even the offensive line was selective in its timing allowing running back Sony Michel to save his energy with only three runs in excess of six yards. Michel finished the game with 132 yards on 25 carries. He racked up 68 on those three potent touches.
At first I thought he was a blind Disney but the rest of the article leads me to believe that this dude is hilarious
We need more satirical Dawgs write ups
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:26 pm to Damn Good Dawg
I forgot that he was OC at Oklahoma during Stoops 1st season:
This left a Leach disciple to lead the offense to the NC in 2000 when he was taken in at TTU.
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Prior to Texas Tech Leach spent one season as the offensive coordinator at Oklahoma (1999), as the Sooners set six Big 12 Conference and 17 school records. He spent two seasons in a similar capacity at Kentucky (1997-98), the only two seasons in school history in which it passed for more than 4,000 yards while setting six NCAA and 41 Southeastern Conference records.
This left a Leach disciple to lead the offense to the NC in 2000 when he was taken in at TTU.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:26 pm to FaCubeItches
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Richt picked up a career defining victory and saved Georgia’s dream season and hopes for a state championship
I think he is the guy doing mescaline.
Always been a schroom guy myself, local south GA product don't cha know.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:28 pm to WhopperDawg
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Andrew Hall @DudeYouCrazy
What a magical season! #MiracleAtSanford #StateChampsOrBust #10WinsOrBust
#Pray4GeorgiaTech #Pray4Shreveport
#NoChubbNoQBNoProblem
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:28 pm to HellRaisingDawg
Wow, I did not know that much about Leach pre-TT. That is awesome.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:29 pm to HellRaisingDawg
Those Kentucky seasons were Mumme's only great ones.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:31 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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At first I thought he was a blind Disney but the rest of the article leads me to believe that this dude is hilarious
That dude's sarcasm is off the charts. Hire him. STAT.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 6:37 pm to HellRaisingDawg
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Leach developed and ran the air raid offense
Easy,don't know about "developed".He was an asst at BYU under Lavel Edwards who pretty much invented and wrote the book on what now is called the "Air Raid" offense.
Leach just modified and tweaked it.The offense is pretty simplistic and rather easy to learn and implement.Still amazed whe the tag of "offensive genius" is applied to the guy.
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:03 pm to WhopperDawg
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Always been a schroom guy myself, local south GA product don't cha know.
All too well. But mescaline makes the trees breathe...
Posted on 11/22/15 at 7:05 pm to RD Dawg
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Easy,don't know about "developed".He was an asst at BYU under Lavel Edwards who pretty much invented and wrote the book on what now is called the "Air Raid" offense.
Everyone stands upon the shoulders of those that came before them. We all have muses.
But everywhere Leach has been, records are set and teams improve. He's never left a program worse than he found it. That's why he gets the tag.
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