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re: How fired is Mike Smith

Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:27 am to
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:27 am to
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Smith should have been fired at the end of last year, if not before




Do what? He was 30+ games over .500 headed into last year with arguably one of the WORST player personnel guys and you woulda fired em after his 1st losing season? With all the injuries
they had last year as well?

And replace em with who exactly?
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7446 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:32 am to
Replace with who is a good question, but frick the numbers.

Use the eyeball test.

Has he peaked in ATL?

The answer is yes.
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7446 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:57 am to
also, just want to add that this is not some new opinion based on this year. I and many others on this board call for Smith to be fired after last year, and some before that.

my personal feeling was that he had peaked as the coach and we needed to move on if we wanted to continue to get better.his fourth down calls have been headscratchers for 3 years now. His clock management has been atrocious over the last two seasons.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Time to launch the Saban to Falcons rumor?


Watch our board, then the Bama one
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44743 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:34 pm to
Smith's clock management issues aren't anything new, but they'll be magnified this season when a 6-10 Falcons team misses the playoffs when they should have been 8-8 if not for horrible misuse of timeouts against Detroit and Cleveland. That game yesterday was over when Smith called that timeout with :51 left; the ending was very predictable. Smith came to Atlanta with a reputation as a good defensive coach, but they haven't had a good defense since he's arrived. His playoff record is an insult to the word atrocious. I'm not positive, but I would guess that he owns the worst beating a 1 seed has ever taken in the playoffs. He had another team score two whole points in a playoff game and fail on 3 fourth downs when less than a yard was needed. His team was powerless to stop San Francisco's running game in the 2012 NFCCG, again at home. His teams are not tough enough to compete with the big boys in the NFL, and that's why a change is needed.

If it weren't for Matt Ryan's unusual ability to morph into Tom Brady in close games with the ball and less than a minute remaining against some really bad teams, Smith may have already been launched. If Ryan doesn't somehow get the Falcons in FG range against Seattle in the divisional round in 2012, and the Falcons lose 28-27, maybe he would have been fired after that debacle (I call it a debacle because no 1 seed should EVER blow a 20 point lead at home to a 5 seed).
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 1:36 pm to
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the worst beating a 1 seed has ever taken in the playoffs


The sad thing about that is anyone who watched should've known the Packers would win that game. The secondary that year was abysmal - like it has been almost every year under Smith - and Rodgers had a great second half of the season.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

His team was powerless to stop San Francisco's running game in the 2012 NFCCG, again at home. His teams are not tough enough to compete with the big boys in the NFL


Right, so changing coaches will have us start competing with the big boys?Overnight huh?

Once again,look at his player personnel guy AND
look at this franchise before he got here.
The season before was a COMPLETE debacle with the Petrino BS and his 4-12 record.

You really think this years team is remotely close personnel wise to the top teams in the
NFL? Or even the .500 teams in the NFL?

I'm not gonna argue with his time mgt issues in
the Det and Cleveland but to pin all the playoff losses on him alone is moronic...especially given the crap personnel he had/has to work with on the defensive side of the ball.

No doubt he's gone after this season along with TD (who I've been bitching about for 3 years and long before anyone on here))I got into a huge disagreement with Whopper about his picks back in '12.

If healthy in '15 the team should have one of the top offenses in the NFL and improved on defesne with Moore and Spoon back. But still will have huge holes at D-line and LB
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Hobnail
ATL
Member since Oct 2014
3197 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Smith's clock management issues aren't anything new, but they'll be magnified this season when a 6-10 Falcons team misses the playoffs when they should have been 8-8 if not for horrible misuse of timeouts against Detroit and Cleveland


Nail on the head.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44743 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Right, so changing coaches will have us start competing with the big boys?Overnight huh?


You never know. Harbaugh took a shite San Francisco team who hadn't even sniffed the playoffs in about 10 years before he got there and had them hosting the NFCCG in his first season. You know what the difference was? They looked tougher and meaner than they had in previous regimes and physically imposed their will on opponents.

Pete Carroll had Seattle in the second round of the playoffs in his first season as coach/GM. He drafted well and his teams were (and still are) tough and nasty.

There's a reason those two played a classic NFC title game last season.
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3940 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Right, so changing coaches will have us start competing with the big boys?Overnight huh?


Worked for San Francisco. Harbough took a team that was garbage and a QB that was considered the worst starting QB in the NFL to the NFC Championship game and Alex Smith ended the season the the 3rd highest QB rating in the league.

You're saying the right coaching staff couldn't come to Atlanta and do well immediately? Please. If San Francisco had the talent Atlanta has in 2011 they probably would've been Superbowl champs.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44743 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:24 pm to
Another thing....Steven Jackson gives great effort and runs harder than a locomotive, but the guy just doesn't have it in the legs anymore. There's no more burst and it looks like all those years of carrying the team on his back in St Louis have caught up with him. He is nowhere near as explosive as he used to be. He should be nothing more than a short yardage/goal line specialist at this point. It's time to turn the ground game over to Devonta Freeman.
Posted by Dawgs9
Where ever I am
Member since Sep 2012
1940 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 6:46 pm to
He's a gone arse
Posted by WhopperDawg
Member since Aug 2013
3073 posts
Posted on 11/24/14 at 11:45 pm to
I was really, really afraid this would happen and all the focus goes to Smith and TD skates.

To fix it, he absolutely has to get TD too. Absolutely. If we go into the draft again with that guy at the helm, I am going to :yack:
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