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Hope Scholarship changing to 2.0
Posted on 3/7/13 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/7/13 at 12:55 pm
Is this article misleading or is that true?
I can't tell if this is only for Technical colleges or not?
If not, this basically means you will get grant money if you just pretty much graduate high school.
Am I missing something?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
An effort to make more technical college students eligible for the HOPE grant was overwhelmingly approved by House lawmakers. It passed by a 169-1 vote to applause by legislators.
House Bill 372, which has the blessing of Gov. Nathan Deal, would change the eligibility requirement to a 2.0 grade-point average. That’s down from the current rule of 3.0 and a return to what existed before lawmakers overhauled HOPE in 2011 to prevent it from going broke.
Nearly 9,000 students lost the grant last year because they couldn’t maintain a 3.0 average.
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I can't tell if this is only for Technical colleges or not?
If not, this basically means you will get grant money if you just pretty much graduate high school.
Am I missing something?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
An effort to make more technical college students eligible for the HOPE grant was overwhelmingly approved by House lawmakers. It passed by a 169-1 vote to applause by legislators.
House Bill 372, which has the blessing of Gov. Nathan Deal, would change the eligibility requirement to a 2.0 grade-point average. That’s down from the current rule of 3.0 and a return to what existed before lawmakers overhauled HOPE in 2011 to prevent it from going broke.
Nearly 9,000 students lost the grant last year because they couldn’t maintain a 3.0 average.
LINK
This post was edited on 3/7/13 at 1:09 pm
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Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:02 pm to ugasickem
Just tech students.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:03 pm to FinleyStreet
yup...Chattahoochee Tech, West Ga Tech etc...
Posted on 3/7/13 at 1:10 pm to dallasga6
quote:
An effort to make more technical college students eligible for the HOPE grant
This statement doesn't mean that a student going to Georgia Southern/Kennesaw State won't receive these funds. At least that's how I interpret it.
Posted on 3/7/13 at 2:57 pm to ugasickem
There would be fricking chaos if that was a university system wide standard change
Posted on 3/8/13 at 1:54 pm to ugasickem
They had to drop it back down we were running out of dumb asses to make teachers out of.
GO DAWGS
Posted on 3/8/13 at 2:17 pm to Old Rooster
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Dumb asses to make teachers out of.
Care to elaborate?
Posted on 3/8/13 at 3:19 pm to Sanford&MunSon
I think he's referring to the fact that the students in the education department of most universities are the least gifted academically.
Posted on 3/8/13 at 3:23 pm to Rules
I see.
Posted on 3/9/13 at 7:12 am to Sanford&MunSon
Boo frickin hoo. If they aren't willing to put in the study time why should we pay for it? There is not enough in the PRE K budget (which is also lottery funded) for every child to get in and they are going to dump millions more back to those who won't buckle down and keep a 3.0?????
Give all of the little ones a chance first.
Give all of the little ones a chance first.
This post was edited on 3/9/13 at 7:13 am
Posted on 3/9/13 at 9:02 am to Donkeypunch
Public Pre K is horseshite and I can honestly say that I have never met someone who didn't attend a private pre-k for this exact reason. There have been studies that show the effects of the programs wear off by the third grade anyways. So unless they want to add even more programs to maintain these results whilw simultaneously draining HOPE, the proposal of an expanded pre-k program is idiotic at best.
Since you wanna talk about buckling down etc. Ever since HOPE was established every teacher had the same message "make A's and B's and your college is paid for"
Well guess what about 3 years ago they completely scrapped the money that was set aside for text books, and last year they added the 2 tier system
Tier 1 covers everything that the original HOPE did minus a book allowance. Here is the catch tho. You must achieve a 3.5 or higher to maintain eligibility, while in college is next to impossible.
Tier 2 Only overs 85% of tuition costs as long as you maintain a 3.0
HOPE will be gone in 5 years and investing in more shitty Pre-K programs will only speed up the process.
Since you wanna talk about buckling down etc. Ever since HOPE was established every teacher had the same message "make A's and B's and your college is paid for"
Well guess what about 3 years ago they completely scrapped the money that was set aside for text books, and last year they added the 2 tier system
Tier 1 covers everything that the original HOPE did minus a book allowance. Here is the catch tho. You must achieve a 3.5 or higher to maintain eligibility, while in college is next to impossible.
Tier 2 Only overs 85% of tuition costs as long as you maintain a 3.0
HOPE will be gone in 5 years and investing in more shitty Pre-K programs will only speed up the process.
Posted on 3/9/13 at 9:25 am to Cherokee Chinstrap
Seems to me some people might choose the easiest fields of study just so they can keep Hope. It's a fact that some degree programs are harder than others. Do we really want to reward people who take useless classes just to keep the GPA high?
Posted on 3/9/13 at 9:52 am to Rules
Ideally they could but they will never be able to discriminate against the English and Sociology majors of the world. I would be fine with rewarding those in difficult programs, after all those are the ones who were hit hardest by the creation of the two tier system. A 3.5 as an Education or Sociology major is not even in the same ballpark as a 3.5 from majors like Bio Chem and Financial Management.
This post was edited on 3/9/13 at 9:53 am
Posted on 3/9/13 at 10:33 am to Cherokee Chinstrap
It's ok, the majors in Biochem are going to make a shite pile of money after they graduate, if they end up with $15k in student loans, who gives a shite. They'll be driving $60,000 cars.
It only makes sense to buy education for those who aren't going to earn anything after graduation.
It only makes sense to buy education for those who aren't going to earn anything after graduation.
Posted on 3/9/13 at 10:47 am to deeprig9
I disagree. I think the most money should go to the people in the majors that would allow them to contribute more.
Posted on 3/9/13 at 10:50 am to Rules
But then it would be a regressive tax on poor people who play the lottery, to be directly distributed to hard working future leaders of America. How is that fair?
Posted on 3/9/13 at 10:52 am to deeprig9
But seriously folks...
Shouldn't they just require you to be in the top 50% of your degree program at your school? Whether that's a 2.8 in BioChem or a 3.7 in Education.
Shouldn't they just require you to be in the top 50% of your degree program at your school? Whether that's a 2.8 in BioChem or a 3.7 in Education.
Posted on 3/9/13 at 10:57 am to deeprig9
If you're in the bottom 50% of BioChem, you're probably still pretty smart.
If you're a 4.0 Education major, you're probably still dumb.
So, nahhh.
If you're a 4.0 Education major, you're probably still dumb.
So, nahhh.
Posted on 3/9/13 at 11:26 am to FinleyStreet
What was your major? I bet it was something worthwhile.
Posted on 3/10/13 at 7:39 pm to FinleyStreet
quote:
If you're in the bottom 50% of BioChem, you're probably still pretty smart.
If you're a 4.0 Education major, you're probably still dumb.
So, nahhh.
Exactly.
It kinda aggravates me to see people that can't even get though basic remedial college algebra get money thrown at them, but engineering majors that have a lower GPA for obvious reasons, get screwed. Then we wonder why the country is falling behind on math and science. If the sciences had even more incentives behind them, and we took away aid for the arts and crap that don't matter, then you would get a more edumacated populace. But what ever.
PS, I know a girl that graduated with a 4.0 in criminal justice and couldn't even figure out where the internet was on her iphone.
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