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re: Herschel says it best

Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:42 am to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:42 am to
What did Herschel say that is "hypocritical"?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:45 am to
"I know this is not the time of Bo Jackson or Herschel Walker, this is a different time," Walker said. "But what is not different is right is right and wrong is wrong. What Jameis has done is wrong. You can say you are innocent until proven guilty, but one thing that is funny to me is that where there is smoke there is fire.



Like driving around in a real nice car you didn't buy so you would go to college at UGA? Like taking a loan for your parents which was illegal under the laws of the NCAA. The same organization that allowed you to rise to fame and a Heisman trophy.... Wait, you say this isn't proven? Well, where there is smoke, there is fire...
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:47 am to
Explain yourself.

Most of Herschel's comments are about Winston. Herschel was never accused of rape, never accused of shoplifting, and never stood up on a table and shouted obscenities. Herschel was always humble. In fact, when he scored touchdowns, he never did a dance, spiked the ball, taunted anyone, he just hand the ball to the ref and jogged away. So no hypocrisy here.

The only thing in this article that you could possible claim hypocrisy on is him not wanting to vote for Gurley. But he said he can't do this until this is cleared up. Meaning he cannot vote for someone who is currently in an investigation.

Herschel never says that he did not also do some things wrong, I am sure he probably did. But he recognizes the importance of being a representative of UGA.

And he could probably help you find a nice place to keep your popsicle stick.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:50 am to
When was Herschel Walker investigated by the NCAA?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 8:51 am to
Quit being logical, Jefferson.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Well said... If the greatest player in CFB history and a great ambassador for and supporter of UGA isn't qualified to comment, then no one is...


Ths but having said that it obviously doesn't necessarily mean I have to agree with his entire perspective.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7000 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:34 am to
quote:

When was Herschel Walker investigated by the NCAA?

He never was because the agent who loaned him $250,000 didn't turn him in.

I never read any article but I did listen to the sanctimonious and hypocritical interview Walker gave to Paul Finebaum which was the subject of the article.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:42 am to
None of the e-"insiders" in their mom's basement are ever right about anything today. So, forgive me if I don't just blindly swallow every rumor about cars and loans and tractors from 34 years ago.....


This Place.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17468 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 9:47 am to
quote:

He never was because the agent who loaned him $250,000 didn't turn him in


Out of curiousity, where is the proof of this? Or is it just another rumor?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 10:31 am to
Walkers proof is " where there is smoke there is fire"

Get your heads out of your asses. Don't ask us for proof sources when the whole point of his hypocrisy is that you don't really need proof to judge...
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7000 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 11:53 am to
quote:

Out of curiousity, where is the proof of this? Or is it just another rumor?

While Walker was still playing I was personally informed by the agent that he was holding a $250,000 note payable from Walker but that the asset was not shown on his financial statement for fear of the NCAA. Walker's family got a new house and swimming pool.

Based on subsequent events I'm fairly confident the agent was not lying.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:24 pm to
Even if you can't prove what you are saying, where there is smoke there is fire.... And that's all the proof we need ...
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17468 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:30 pm to
Buck, instead of worrying about smoke and fire and whatnot, you should probably be looking up these sources of yours and give them whatfor because they made you look less than stellar on here...
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:34 pm to
I second the comments of others on this issue. Herschel being the best football player ever at UGA doesn't mean he isn't being a massive hypocrite in this case.
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:41 pm to
Herschel says he didn't do it. Isn't that exactly what all of you are saying Gurley should be saying?

quote:

Walker was one of the greatest players in college football history while playing for the Bulldogs from 1980-82. He said he was able to avoid the urge of receiving any illegal benefits while in school.

“It wasn’t hard,’’ Walker said. “My parents kept me straight. My parents are so strict that I knew what was right and wrong. If somebody offered me something I knew was illegal, I didn’t have that temptation.’’

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This post was edited on 10/17/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:45 pm to
quote:

Herschel says he didn't do it.

Oh well as long as he says so. I'm sure that car was just a coincidence.
quote:

Isn't that exactly what all of you are saying Gurley should be saying?

I don't know what Gurley has said or hasn't said. It's wrong for Herschel to question Gurley's character on this issue.

Herschel is the man. That doesn't mean he is infallible.
Posted by Goldawg
EC
Member since Jan 2013
44 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:51 pm to
I watched the interview and did not have a problem with anything Herschel said. I did not hear him say that he never did anything wrong. I bet had Finebaum asked Herschel if he had been under investigation in '81 would he have had a problem with someone not voting for him, Heschel would say that would have been up to the voter.

As for any of you folks that were not around for the Herschel years, they were a whole lot different that the feel of Gurley on campus. When half the stadium would chant Herschel and the other side Walker for 5 minutes, it was amazing. Gurley is good but not on the cutting edge of change in the position. Walker was the beginning of the big back sized like a fullback with elite halfback speed.

[insert here that damn old man shaking fist emoticon]
Posted by Broncothor
Member since Jul 2014
3050 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:55 pm to
A quote from Herschel's book, and then I will move on:

quote:

They were going to take a second mortgage out on the house to pay for it, and if that Trans Am was what I wanted, well, that's what I was going to be getting.....three years later when I signed my first professional contract with the USFL, one of the first things I did was get some of my money, go to the Bank in Dublin that held the note on my parents' second mortgage, and pay off that car. While an amateur and playing NCAA football, I wasn't about to do anything illegal to risk my eligibility. I say that as someone who believes so strongly in doing the right thing that he decided to major in criminal justice"


Taken from "Breaking Free: My Life with Dissociative Identity Disorder.

Maybe, just maybe, Herschel is special.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Buck, instead of worrying about smoke and fire and whatnot, you should probably be looking up these sources of yours and give them whatfor because they made you look less than stellar on here...


So, because word I got from two people I know personally and are in a spot to have access to the happening was incorrect... Or at least is now not the case... I shall no longer comment on someone clearly being a hypocrite?
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 10/17/14 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Oh well as long as he says so. I'm sure that car was just a coincidence.

Herschel's parents bought it for him when he was still in high school.

You act like a used 1970-something Trans Am is a Ferrari or something.


What other evidence or "smoke" do you got?
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