re: Georgia will adjust to new rule allowing required summer training, film study

Actually, in 2008, the cluster appeared to be Housing and Child and Family development. Now, it appears that has moved towards Communication Studies, Sports Management, HumanDev and Family, and Pre Business.

If you read the article, it stated 75% of UGA athletes were special admits vs 6% of the student population.

Our revered Coach and AD even said we may as well shut it down if we didn't let in special admits.

I posted a number of articles showing that school after school does the same thing and athletes tended to "cluster" in certain majors. It is a chicken or egg thing....but either way, it is clear that the school will go to great lengths to accommodate the athletic programs due to the immense monies they bring in and the trend is continuing.

There is a reason non athletes need to have strong SATs and GPAs and aptitude to get accepted into UGA and there is a reason someone with a SAT of 600 and a 2.8 GPA gets in. If your contention is that "even" these Majors that allow someone who did not have the aptitude to get into UGA to get a degree in something useful is good for UGA and the kids, then more power to you. If UGA was on the hook for them for 5 years once they sign as long as they willingly choose to stay active, follow team rules, and are accommodated if they are hurt... have practice only during the season with a short spring session and voluntary work outs, and not allowing the school to make money off their images without putting some at least in a trust... and hold coaches financially responsible for rules violations as well as the institutions and have an agreement with the NFL that any agent who is "convicted" of contacting a college eligible player either directly or by proxy will be banned from the NFL....

then, we may be getting a tad bit on the right direction and away from the absolute farce this thing has become///

Honestly, we probably agree in more areas than not.

I've had quite a bit of experience with the types of students the football team recruits, and it's not shocking to me that they aren't ready for a college education when they get to Athens. Hell, they probably weren't ready for pre-k on the first day they showed up at four years old. Many kids start off behind and never catch up.

That doesn't change the fact that they have an opportunity to do something better at a school like UGA. Yes, if they don't want to be college students, then they shouldn't be here. But guess what? Some of them will have better lives as a result of being here. I'm all for reform, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. And for the love of Jehovah, don't destroy the whole damn thing in the name of reform.

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That doesn't change the fact that they have an opportunity to do something better at a school like UGA. Yes, if they don't want to be college students, then they shouldn't be here. But guess what? Some of them will have better lives as a result of being here. I'm all for reform, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water. And for the love of Jehovah, don't destroy the whole damn thing in the name of reform.

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The thing will destroy itself. Between the agents and the gamblers alone... but throw in the inequities and the bold faced hypocrisy and it will eventually bubble over.

I saw UGAs football program give some guys who would not have had a chance, a shot in life and they took it and ran with it and are doing good til this very day. I also saw it eat up and spit put a lot more. Pychically and psychologically. The football guidance conselours knew most certainly what majors and classes were easy and pushed as many that way as they could. even the people who had good grades and would have gotten into UGA on their own merits. It is totally self serving to the coaches who are making or losing a lot of money off the players. It also affects revenues to the school along with some fake pride that the athletes are student who happpen to play a sport...

...but to sew this back up, the only time you can actually work and make money, legally, is during the Summer or during christmas break if you do not make a bowl... pretty much everyone makes a bowl now, so you have really 7 or 8 weeks of summer. Those days are now taken away with mandatory work outs. Sure, it may well make the team better, but the NCAA could easily work this out to even the field as even as it can be with a system that turns its head to cheating and shenanigans... So, either just come clean and tell us football is a huge money making enterprise for the college and fielding winning teams is more important than educating the players on the team and compensate them acccordingly or change the rules so that this is about a college that fields a team of its students...

Holding coaches financially and professionally accountable for for rule breaking would cause a significant shift.

Holding the NFL more accountable for agents. College teams are the minor leagues of the NFL and the NFL benefits greatly from them. In return for all the NFL access of film, practice visits, visits with players, the NFL, with the Universities (outside of the scope of the NCAA) needs to fund a committee with enforcement powers that can suspend, fine, or ban any agent or a proxy working for an agent who initiates any illegal contact or gifts to a prospective player.

Create a system to detect and aggressively thwart the affect gamblers and their minions have on college sporting events.

Create a fund which players can use for medical care after they are done playing for any injuries caused by football or degenerative issues caused by the significant wear and tear of football. If the player is insured, let his current insurance company hash it out with the fund.

Scholarships are for 5 years. If a player flunks out or gets kicked out, they still count against limits for 5 years . A limited amount of injury or hardship exemptions will be given to each team. As long as a player stays active and meets the teams requirements, he can receive aid.

this would be a start, but it would cut into a lot of the pockets running the scam....

Wouldn't it be easier for the NCAA to simply require that athletic scholarships could only be awarded to students with a 10th grade reading, writing, arithmetic level on the CRCT or other standardized test?

It seems like a lot of the other scenarios and consequences would work themselves out quickly, considering how much money is at stake, as far as NFL farm teams, developmental league, etc.

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Wouldn't it be easier for the NCAA to simply require that athletic scholarships could only be awarded to students with a 10th grade reading, writing, arithmetic level on the CRCT or other standardized test?

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Just FYI - CRCT is only given through 8th grade. I get your point, though. Trouble is, standardized tests pretty much suck as indicators of anything beyond the ability to take tests well. But that's a debate for a different thread.

What say-so would the ncaa have?


In what way could they fight it?

I meant what say so would they have to the nfl.