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re: Georgia Primary Results. . .

Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:21 pm to
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Your assertion that the necons that sprang from republican Reagan are democrats sure is an interesting one.

It's not assertion or conspiracy theory or anything but reality. Google it.

There is no "conservative" republican party in america. There hasn't been one for decades.

COme to think of it now.....This Trump phenomenon is not really a revolution. It's a COUNTER revolution.....to the revolution that the liberal democrat neocons pulled off in their hijacking and transformation of the republican party.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:34 pm to
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What's changed??


I think the correct choice is B: Civil Rights. It's amazing how elections can change when African Americans aren't prevented from going to the polls. That's the reason why Atlanta votes heavily Democratic now. And until VERY recently (the past 10 years, especially the last 5), all of the transplants have been moving into the suburbs rather than the city center.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:46 pm to
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Cobb, Dekalb, and Fulton counties had overwhelmingly higher voter turnout for the Democrat primary than compared with the Republican primary. WHeras the exact OPPOSITE is true for the other 155 counties in the state and also in the overwhelming majority of the other states that have voted so far.


Correct, but you said the metro area is out of touch with the nation at large. It seems you meant to say out of touch with other "republicans" across the nation.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:53 pm to
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Your assertion that the necons that sprang from republican Reagan are democrats sure is an interesting one.

It's not assertion or conspiracy theory or anything but reality. Google it.

There is no "conservative" republican party in america. There hasn't been one for decades.

COme to think of it now.....This Trump phenomenon is not really a revolution. It's a COUNTER revolution.....to the revolution that the liberal democrat neocons pulled off in their hijacking and transformation of the republican party.


Who was the last conservative republican president, Nixon?

I don't think trump phenomenon is anything but a dumb American public who is tired of the 2 parties and is impressed by a loud mouthed rich egomaniac celebrity.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 4:08 pm to
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What's changed??


Let me illustrate my point. Just look at the Presidential results in Gwinnett, a county that has been absorbing hundreds of thousands of white transplants from other parts of the country for more than 30 years. It's not these transplants that are voting democrat. Just look at how the percentages correspond. Also remember that 1992 and 1996 had strong third party candidates that siphoned off lots of votes from the GOP candidate.

1984: Reagan 80 - Mondale 20; White 93 - Non-White 7
1988: Bush 76 - Dukakis 24; White 91 - Non-White 9
1992: Bush 54 - Clinton 29; White 89 - Non-White 11
1996: Dole 59 - Clinton 33; White 77 - Non-White 23
2000: Bush 64 - Gore 32; White 73 - Non-White 27
2004: Bush 66 - Kerry 33; White 67 - Non-White 33
2008: McCain 55 - Obama 44; White 53 - Non-White 47
2012: Romney 54 - Obama 45; White 47 - Non-White 53
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 4:25 pm to
You know what happened under Bush?

The rich got richer, the middle class shrunk, welfare recipients grew, blacks in poverty grew, and we ended up with an unbalanced budget, $5 trillion in debt, massive government federal expansion, and a bunch of fatcat career politicians with lined pockets.

You know what happened under Obama?

The rich got significantly more rich, the middle class significantly shrunk, welfare recipients significantly grew, blacks in poverty significantly grew, and we ended up with an unbalanced budget, $19 trillion in debt, massive government federal expansion, and a bunch of fatcat career politicians with lined pockets.

The people in this country aren't dumb, they're just really freaking sick of being lied to and taken advantage of by the donor class and establishment politicians.

Trump also DOES have a solid agenda. Taxes, economy, jobs, entitlements, national defense, domestic security, immigration, state's rights, reducing the scope of the federal, reeling in cronyism and special interest group influence, education, social security, medicare/healthcare, VA, 2nd amendment, overseas inversion and dollar repatriation, ISIS.....

He's got a plan for all of those things. And, if he wins, he's going to have a Republican House and Senate. He'll get every single freaking thing in his agenda because all of these plans are legit conservatism.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 4:28 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 5:01 pm to
Though most of his fans are uneducated folks, who he loves, it appears he has even fooled some smart folks into believing in him as well. Guess what? He is only interested in himself, and He isn't gonna fix the average mans problems. The rich guys like him are still gonna get richer. The not rich will still get taken advantage by folks like him.

His immature and explosive temperament alone should dq him from being a commander in chief in this dangerous world. His suggestion about committing war crimes only adds to that idea and makes one wonder what kind of wackos are advising him on foreign policy.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 5:25 pm to
I voted for Cruz in the primary because his and Trump's plans and agenda are very similar, except that Cruz acts more Presidential.

But after seeing the primary results, it's clear Trump is going to be the nominee, so all I've done is figure why that is and educate myself fully on the guy.

You're barking mostly biased opinion and false conjecture. It's going to come down to Trump and Hillary, period. And I don't care how much we don't know if Trump can be trusted or not, or if he will do right by us and keep his promises he's laid out in his agenda. I can only hope he does. Because if he does, then it's very clear that we will be better off than we are now.

But that said, the one absolute I am certain of, however, is that Hillary will be worse. The Clinton Foundation is a cesspool of criminal corruption. And she is a bona fide lying corrupt piece of trash. She is the definition of an Establishment Politician. And she owes more favors to her cronies, donors, and political establishment than a broke homeless crack whore.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 5:48 pm to
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the correct choice is B: Civil Rights. It's amazing how elections can change when African Americans aren't prevented from going to the polls

First you said that it's the white Southerners that are the ATL liberals, and now you say that it’s blacks uplifted after civil rights? Make up your mind.

Look. I doubt there are any stats to be found precisely showing how transplanted atlantans vote compared to others, but let’s be real…..

Georgia, historically, is a “conservative” state. Whereas, states in the Midwest, northeast, etc are historically “liberal”. Still with me?

So, given the fact that Atlanta has absorbed large numbers of transplants (we’re talking millions here) from historically liberal states, well then…. It should not be controversial to point out that this migration of liberals factors into the increase of liberal voters in the Atlanta area.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 5:52 pm to
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Who was the last conservative republican president, Nixon?

I don't think there's ever been one.

As for candidates, the last truly "conservative" one was Ron Paul. And he was bullied and viewed as an alien by this republican party.
Posted by ladyluckUGA
Member since Feb 2014
6365 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 6:12 pm to
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The war-mongering thieving globalist liberals that hijacked "conservatism" have ran the Republican party completely into the ground. It's dying before our very eyes.



I like you more and more all the time...
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:14 pm to
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I don't think there's ever been one.

As for candidates, the last truly "conservative" one was Ron Paul. And he was bullied and viewed as an alien by this republican party.


Big fan of that man, and I bet he hopes he doesnt die and reactively roll over in his grave when a POS trash man like trump wins the vote.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:20 pm to
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mostly biased opinion and false conjecture. I


Using his words, and how I and others view them. Seems like you are resorting to just another "best smelling POS" vote as usual in the presidential race, and its a shame thats all we get to choose from. Folks got tired of establishment BS and choose a F'N A hole celebrity with zero experience in politics except as a crony doner as their 3rd choice? You got to admit his rhetoric attracts the lowest common denominator, and has some possible grave dangers involved. In the end, whats worse, WW3 because of a cocky attitude and much of the same, or all of the same? Those are our choices, and I will once again vote 3rd party just so I am not explicit in these crimes on common sense.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 8:24 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32814 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 10:24 am to
"The debate last night was a political dumpster fire. I haven't been that repulsed since I dissected a cow's eyeball in my 10th grade science class. The Republican Party has become a laughingstock.

In fact, I'm at CPAC this year for the first time, and as I walk the convention center I feel like I can detect a certain sort of shell shocked, embarrassed, confused feeling emanating from the crowd. Last night my hotel was filled with drunk CPACers stumbling through the halls. I can only assume they're all trying to drown their sorrows.

I won't offer an analysis or report card of the debate because, at this point, you're either thoroughly disgusted by what the election season has become, or you're insane. There's no sense in telling the folks in the former category what they already know, and there's no sense in trying to tell the folks in the latter category what they're intellectually incapable of understanding.

I will say that in the midst of Trump bragging about his genitals, blatantly lying about everything, and changing his position on a dozen issues, Ted Cruz did manage to have his best performance. And this is a guy with a lot of great performances under his belt.

Rubio performed pretty well also, especially considering he had the flu. Kasich was fine. I don't hate the guy but he's not going to win and his Mr. Positive routine strikes me as phony. Maybe it isn't, but that's just the impression I get. Kasich was also tepid in defending religious liberty, which is unforgivable in my book.

And then there was Trump. We don't have to get into it. I'm sick of the guy. I keep hearing that "plenty of intelligent and decent people support him," but you watch last night's debate and tell me how in God's name that could be possible. I'm sorry, but I just cannot fathom how an "intelligent and decent" person could support this insanity. I just can't. I'm being honest with you here.

A lot will be made of various tidbits and episodes from the debate, but I'm guessing the most significant and outrageous one will be ignored. At one point, the moderator asked Trump about Trump's previous pledge to target and kill the wives and children of terrorist suspects. Trump refused to disavow that pledge, and essentially reaffirmed it. People applauded.

Trump EXPLICITLY said he would force his generals to carry out war crimes against civilians and his fans cheered. This is what I'm talking about. "Intelligent and decent people"? Come on. This is decent? This is intelligent?

If we lived in a good and moral country, it would be headline news that a frontrunning presidential candidate just promised on national TV to assassinate women and children. Every news channel would lead with it, and it would be the end of his campaign. Instead, we're talking about Trump's penis and Rubio's yoga joke (which was funny, I admit).

We are humiliating ourselves as a nation.

The entire world is laughing at us, and we deserve it."
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:36 am to
Ron Paul is not a Conservative. He is a Libertarian. Big difference.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:43 am to
I didn't vote, but me and my boys did spend the day barricading small african american communities.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 11:54 am to
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Ron Paul is not a Conservative. He is a Libertarian. Big difference.

Thanks for the scoop!

But I never said he was a Conservative.
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 12:06 pm to
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At one point, the moderator asked Trump about Trump's previous pledge to target and kill the wives and children of terrorist suspects. Trump refused to disavow that pledge, and essentially reaffirmed it. People applauded. Trump EXPLICITLY said he would force his generals to carry out war crimes against civilians and his fans cheered. This is what I'm talking about. "Intelligent and decent people"? Come on. This is decent? This is intelligent? If we lived in a good and moral country, it would be headline news that a frontrunning presidential candidate just promised on national TV to assassinate women and children. Every news channel would lead with it, and it would be the end of his campaign.



how long did it take Japan to surrender after we let them know how serious we were about ending the fighting in WW2?...do you understand how many women and children died?...but it was a necessary evil...something that had to be done...for the good of the world.....and the United States...now I'm not saying that Trump's thoughts and words on what he would do are in anyway as severe as the acts of August 1945, BUT.....our enemies feared and respected us for decades...we are half-assed fighting our enemies and they know it...we need to dominate ISIS and anybody else that screws with us...then come home...they will stop what they are doing...they will cease and desist...THAT is what he is saying...quit fricking around and get the shite done and over with...dragging it out and trying to fight them by OUR rules is NOT going to work...see Vietnam.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 12:07 pm to
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"The debate last night was a political dumpster fire. I haven't been that repulsed since I dissected a cow's eyeball in my 10th grade science class. The Republican Party has become a laughingstock.

In fact, I'm at CPAC this year for the first time, and as I walk the convention center I feel like I can detect a certain sort of shell shocked, embarrassed, confused feeling emanating from the crowd. Last night my hotel was filled with drunk CPACers stumbling through the halls. I can only assume they're all trying to drown their sorrows.

I won't offer an analysis or report card of the debate because, at this point, you're either thoroughly disgusted by what the election season has become, or you're insane. There's no sense in telling the folks in the former category what they already know, and there's no sense in trying to tell the folks in the latter category what they're intellectually incapable of understanding.

I will say that in the midst of Trump bragging about his genitals, blatantly lying about everything, and changing his position on a dozen issues, Ted Cruz did manage to have his best performance. And this is a guy with a lot of great performances under his belt.

Rubio performed pretty well also, especially considering he had the flu. Kasich was fine. I don't hate the guy but he's not going to win and his Mr. Positive routine strikes me as phony. Maybe it isn't, but that's just the impression I get. Kasich was also tepid in defending religious liberty, which is unforgivable in my book.

And then there was Trump. We don't have to get into it. I'm sick of the guy. I keep hearing that "plenty of intelligent and decent people support him," but you watch last night's debate and tell me how in God's name that could be possible. I'm sorry, but I just cannot fathom how an "intelligent and decent" person could support this insanity. I just can't. I'm being honest with you here.

A lot will be made of various tidbits and episodes from the debate, but I'm guessing the most significant and outrageous one will be ignored. At one point, the moderator asked Trump about Trump's previous pledge to target and kill the wives and children of terrorist suspects. Trump refused to disavow that pledge, and essentially reaffirmed it. People applauded.

Trump EXPLICITLY said he would force his generals to carry out war crimes against civilians and his fans cheered. This is what I'm talking about. "Intelligent and decent people"? Come on. This is decent? This is intelligent?

If we lived in a good and moral country, it would be headline news that a frontrunning presidential candidate just promised on national TV to assassinate women and children. Every news channel would lead with it, and it would be the end of his campaign. Instead, we're talking about Trump's penis and Rubio's yoga joke (which was funny, I admit).

We are humiliating ourselves as a nation.

The entire world is laughing at us, and we deserve it."

All this whining but not a single word about how the entire debate was a shameless ambush by three shills for the establishment pretending to be debate moderators??

What a joke. I only watched about an hour of it up til that hilarious part where some kind of food particle spit glob emerged on Cruz's lip for what seemed like an eternity. And then he ate it! wtf was that nasty shite?
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
21745 posts
Posted on 3/4/16 at 12:17 pm to
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I won't offer an analysis or report card of the debate because, at this point, you're either thoroughly disgusted by what the election season has become, or you're insane


Looks like you're a lying POS too....
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