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re: Georgia Primary Results. . .

Posted on 3/2/16 at 4:55 pm to
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/2/16 at 4:55 pm to
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Honestly though, the open primary throws those numbers off. Georgia is an open party state. Everyone I know voted in the Republican primary and some of them are doubtful to vote republican when it counts

I don't know how widespread the following is, but one thing I've noticed personally is that family members, friends or just people i know....the ones who faithfully do what talk radio tells them and they hold their nose and go cast a vote for whatever liberal like McCain or Romney the Republican party props up. "Lesser of two evil" voters i guess. Well, a lot of them, they didn't even bother voting yesterday. That's shocking to me.

And then, of the people I know that went and voted for Trump. I know a lot of them aren't even the types that have ever bothered voting.

SO, there's something happening here, man. I don't know what it is, but... it's happening.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 4:57 pm
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 9:42 pm to
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To be fair Bernie is a far better option then Hillary


Not sure that a shite sandwich on rye is really that much better than one on pumpernickel.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 3/2/16 at 11:37 pm to
Yea because republican voters in Cobb,Fulton and DeKalb are just so freakin uneducated and probably don't pay more
;in taxes than the rest of the "red counties" ccombined. Jesus,we all know the hayseed and pitchfork crowd knows best.
This post was edited on 3/2/16 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:13 am to
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Yea because republican voters in Cobb,Fulton and DeKalb are just so freakin uneducated

Cobb, Fulton, and Dekalb are the only 3 counties out of the 159 that had higher turnout for the democratic primary than the republican primary. NOt only that, but in the republican primary vote, these three counties went for the establishment-backed candidate that came in THIRD PLACE in virtually every other county in Georgia. The one that has only won one measly yankee state nationwide.

Go ahead and call the 156 counties beyond these 3 "uneducated" if you like. I'll call it Example Number 376,867,184 that atlanta is not Georgia anymore.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:34 am to
Most states have urban areas or small geographic outliers that vote differently than the rest of the state. Georgia is not unique in that aspect.

Nationally, Trump is owning rural areas by taking advantage of distaste toward the Republican establishment despite making no well thought-out policy arguments himself. The right is fractured, and he'll most likely be the beneficiary.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 8:41 am
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13163 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 8:54 am to
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The same way that Republicrat voters support every idiotic invasion that their rulers offer up.


I agree that has been a pattern in the past but that ship has sailed along with hardcore socially conservative views. Our nation has in general become more socially liberal progressive including much of the Republican base which is why so many Republicans have no problem supporting Trump. I feel most Republicans realize that the social issues have been a losing cause and have written it off and now the focus should be on economic conservatism. If our nation ever embraces full blown Socialism, our decline will be no different from other largely socialist countries.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32816 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:12 am to
How is trump gonna save the country? Congress would become more divided than ever under him I bet. He appears to be more demigod than presidential material.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:18 am to
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Our nation has in general become more socially liberal progressive including much of the Republican base which is why so many Republicans have no problem supporting Trump.

That's not the segment of the population where Trump is getting support. Trump isn't particularly socially liberal or fiscally conservative. He's a loudmouth who isn't a career politician. That's his campaign.

The segment you're talking about is where Ron Paul drew support from last primary cycle.

I agree that the Republican party has alienated a large segment of potential voters with their social issue stances. IMO, they're too scared of losing the Evangelical voting bloc.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:45 am to
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Most states have urban areas or small geographic outliers that vote differently than the rest of the state. Georgia is not unique in that aspect.

Not sure what kind of point you are trying to add.

The four most liberal counties in Georgia, for very obvious reasons, are clearly and severely out of touch with the rest of the state.The region. And the nation at large. Nobody is shocked by this.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 9:49 am to
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How is trump gonna save the country?

By showing how out of touch the gate-keepers in the media, and political parties, and the donor classes, and the think tanks, and the rest of them who rule us really are.

Think of it this way. We are living in the most ridiculously and pathetically POLITICALLY CORRECT obsessed time period in recorded history..........and yet..........The most unPC of all candidates is steam-rolling.


God bless him.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:01 am to
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By showing how out of touch the gate-keepers in the media, and political parties, and the donor classes, and the think tanks, and the rest of them who rule us really are.

They aren't out of touch. They just don't care. Those with power will do what it takes to keep power. That won't change with Trump in office. He'd only be President.

It's easier when votes line up with the interests of the entities you're talking about, but not totally necessary.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 10:24 am to
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They aren't out of touch. They just don't care.

The plan concocted for the peasants for this election was for them to go to the polls and choose between another Bush or a Clinton.

IF THAT'S NOT OUT OF TOUCH, NOTHING IS!!

They spent 150 MILLION dollars trying to get Bush nominated on one side, but Trump squashed that plan. And so now the lights are on, and the roaches are openly saying that they'll vote for Clinton over Trump. Clinton being the other side of the same coin Bush was suppose to be on.

The gig is up. Let the neocons run back to the democrats where they came from and belong.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:03 am to
Jefferson and I don't agree on much here very often, but on this perspective we are in total agreement.

The Establishment on both sides cares about two things and only two thing. Getting re-elected, and lining their own pockets.

This requires keeping their donors happy. And this has created a political culture of overwhelming systemic corruption.

And the people of this country, Liberals, Centrists, Independents, and Conservatives, have become wise and are beyond sick of it. And this is why Trump is so popular. He's getting way more than just the hardline Republicans.

BTW, for those that don't know Trumps stances on issues, just go to his website, they're all there.

LINK
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:37 am to
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BTW, for those that don't know Trumps stances on issues, just go to his website, they're all there.


Not one of those videos featured a plan. They were just short snippets of his meaningless sound bites.
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 11:48 am to
Goddamn, then click on the fricking link that says, "POSITIONS", dumbass.

LINK
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32816 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 12:00 pm to
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How is trump gonna save the country?

By showing how out of touch the gate-keepers in the media, and political parties, and the donor classes, and the think tanks, and the rest of them who rule us really are.

Think of it this way. We are living in the most ridiculously and pathetically POLITICALLY CORRECT obsessed time period in recorded history..........and yet..........The most unPC of all candidates is steam-rolling.


God bless him.


Your assertion that the necons that sprang from republican Reagan are democrats sure is an interesting one.

The status quo isnt respectable but that doesn't mean going the direction of trump is a positive development for our nation. The grass ain't always greener on the other side. It's actually scary his brand of insulting has an auditing audience.
This post was edited on 3/3/16 at 2:14 pm
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 1:36 pm to
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The four most liberal counties in Georgia, for very obvious reasons, are clearly and severely out of touch with the rest of the state.The region. And the nation at large.


I've never understood the argument that that sparsely populated, but geographically large areas are somehow the "real" state, and cities are not.

In my personal experience, most of the white liberals in Atlanta are long-time Southerners. The hordes of Yankees who move here are the greedy neocons who fled the North because they didn't fit in, and vote for neocons like Bush, Romney, or Rubio.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 2:14 pm to
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The four most liberal counties in Georgia, for very obvious reasons, are clearly and severely out of touch with the rest of the state.The region. And the nation at large.


I'm not sure how you can look at the current demographics of the USA and the results of the last two presidential elections and make the statement that the metro area is out of touch with the nation at large. Unfortunately, it's the opposite.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:12 pm to
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I'm not sure how you can look at the current demographics of the USA and the results of the last two presidential elections and make the statement that the metro area is out of touch with the nation at large.

Please look at the map in the OP and I guess I'll repeat myself again....

Cobb, Dekalb, and Fulton counties voted a majority for establishment neocon shill Marco Rubio in the republican primary. Whereas this piece of shite came in almost entirely THIRD place in the other 155 counties in the state and also in the overwhelming majority of the other states that have voted so far.

Cobb, Dekalb, and Fulton counties had overwhelmingly higher voter turnout for the Democrat primary than compared with the Republican primary. WHeras the exact OPPOSITE is true for the other 155 counties in the state and also in the overwhelming majority of the other states that have voted so far.

This is the reality.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 3/3/16 at 3:16 pm to
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most of the white liberals in Atlanta are long-time Southerners. The hordes of Yankees who move here are the greedy neocons who fled the North because they didn't fit in, and vote for neocons like Bush, Romney, or Rubio.

Please try selling this load of horseshite somewhere else.

Atlanta was a conservative city only a few decades ago. What's changed??

A: Millions of transplants have moved there.
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