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re: GA HB 757 - Should Deal sign it?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:29 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:29 pm to dawgfan24348
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Sexual orientation isn't a choice, people really are born that way.
Not sure why that matters?
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Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:30 pm to DawgsLife
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Sexual orientation isn't a choice, people really are born that way.
Not sure why that matters?
It matters as much as folks who are born black white or Asian.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:30 pm to baconwaffle
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Another angle that nobody is talking about is that this bill doesn't even to pretend to extend so-called "religious liberty" to all faiths. It is geared at placating - SPECIFICALLY - evangelical protestant zealots.
How in the world do you figure that? there are many faiths that are affected by this. Mind expaling why you think this?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:33 pm to dawgfan24348
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What? Dude it's no different then being straight, people can't help to who their attracted to.
And yet people experiment with it quite often, do they not? How many people have married, then divorced and married someone of their own sex? There seems to be an awful lot of people who are switching back and forth for it to totally be born that way.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:34 pm to djsdawg
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It matters as much as folks who are born black white or Asian.
I was unaware that being black or Asian was considered immoral.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:38 pm to DawgsLife
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What? Dude it's no different then being straight, people can't help to who their attracted to.
And yet people experiment with it quite often, do they not? How many people have married, then divorced and married someone of their own sex? There seems to be an awful lot of people who are switching back and forth for it to totally be born that way.
There is a difference between a sexual act or marriage and an instinctual feeling of attraction. They don't always go hand in hand.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:42 pm to DawgsLife
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It matters as much as folks who are born black white or Asian.
I was unaware that being black or Asian was considered immoral.
Point is, You can't control how you are Born, be it black white gay straight.
Lots of blacks have been shamed for being black. They were considered "less than human" not 200 years ago and unfit to be around whites just 50 years ago in this very country.
Care to show me where Jesus said being gay was immoral?
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:44 pm to djsdawg
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There is a difference between a sexual act or marriage and an instinctual feeling of attraction. They don't always go hand in hand.
You're right, of course. However, how do we know which is which? How do we know if someone is truly gay or if they are experimenting and decide they want to live or have sex with someone of the same sex? Therein lies the problem. Take Cailin Jennings, for example. married how many times? has how many children, then he is a woman, all of a sudden? If a gay person is just like a straight person only attracted to the same sex....how would a man complete the sex act with a woman is he is gay? I mean...I am straight and my body simply would not cooperate in having sex with another man. I could not form or maintain an erection. So, if a man is gay...how does he have and maintain an erection with a woman? yet there are many "gay" men with children. (WOW. This is getting confusing. It's an interesting thing to discuss and debate, but usually does not get anywhere...much like discussions on politics and religion. Either you believe it or you don't.)
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:51 pm to djsdawg
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Lots of blacks have been shamed for being black. They were considered "less than human" not 200 years ago and unfit to be around whites just 50 years ago in this very country.
Well....I get your point...but not 50 years ago. More like60-70 years ago...but as I said, I understand your point.
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Care to show me where Jesus said being gay was immoral?
You have to understand....I (And many Christians) believe in the Trinity. God and Jesus are the same. We also believe that the Bible is God's Word. Therefore, the verses mentioned by S1C 'Em would have been Jesus saying being gay was immoral. Even if some Christians do not believe in the Trinity, they believe that the Bible is God's Word and it condemns Homosexual acts. I don't know that it speaks specifically to homosexuality, but it does speak to homosexual acts.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 1:59 pm to DawgsLife
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There is a difference between a sexual act or marriage and an instinctual feeling of attraction. They don't always go hand in hand.
You're right, of course. However, how do we know which is which? How do we know if someone is truly gay or if they are experimenting and decide they want to live or have sex with someone of the same sex? Therein lies the problem. Take Cailin Jennings, for example. married how many times? has how many children, then he is a woman, all of a sudden? If a gay person is just like a straight person only attracted to the same sex....how would a man complete the sex act with a woman is he is gay? I mean...I am straight and my body simply would not cooperate in having sex with another man. I could not form or maintain an erection. So, if a man is gay...how does he have and maintain an erection with a woman? yet there are many "gay" men with children. (WOW. This is getting confusing. It's an interesting thing to discuss and debate, but usually does not get anywhere...much like discussions on politics and religion. Either you believe it or you don't.)
I bet what you speak of consists mostly of exceptions to the rule. It's easy to imagine natural fears of being shamed or disavowed by their friends and families leading to some desperate attempts to act straight and make straight relationships work through marriage and kids. In the end, they eventually succumb to the reality of their homosexuality.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 2:02 pm to djsdawg
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I bet what you speak of consists mostly of exceptions to the rule.
I actually don't know what percentage of gay men have had children with women....but there a re a lot. I have to go somewhere, or I would do some research. I am curious to see what the numbers are if they are out there.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 2:04 pm to DawgsLife
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You have to understand....I (And many Christians) believe in the Trinity. God and Jesus are the same. We also believe that the Bible is God's Word. Therefore, the verses mentioned by S1C 'Em would have been Jesus saying being gay was immoral. Even if some Christians do not believe in the Trinity, they believe that the Bible is God's Word and it condemns Homosexual acts. I don't know that it speaks specifically to homosexuality, but it does speak to homosexual acts.
Interesting that there is nothing specifically from Jesus. So which books involve such sayings? The bible says all sorts of crazy things. Seems like most believers just pick and choose which ones to "remember".
Posted on 3/25/16 at 2:06 pm to djsdawg
Here is what MIGHT be an interesting article from NewsWeek on the subject. I haven't read it yet, and either way won't take it as gospel truth....however you might find it interesting. I will read it later.
I promised my son I would take him and his son (MY grandson) to see Batman verses Superman this afternoon, so I have to go. Enjoyed talking to all of you about this, and I echo the poster that said, "Thanks for keeping it civil!"
I promised my son I would take him and his son (MY grandson) to see Batman verses Superman this afternoon, so I have to go. Enjoyed talking to all of you about this, and I echo the poster that said, "Thanks for keeping it civil!"
Posted on 3/25/16 at 2:08 pm to DawgsLife
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not 50 years ago. More like60-70 years ago...but as I said, I understand your point.
Uga became desegregated in 1961 and the football team welcomed it's first black players in 1971.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 2:08 pm to djsdawg
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Interesting that there is nothing specifically from Jesus. So which books involve such sayings? The bible says all sorts of crazy things. Seems like most believers just pick and choose which ones to "remember".
That can be a problem, I admit. There are man in the Old testament, and there are many verses in the New testament as well. I'll look them up and post some tomorrow, if that is ok. However, S1C 'Em posted several in this thread earlier. I don't mind looking them up, but as I said...I have to go pick up my son and grandson. Have a good evening!
Posted on 3/25/16 at 5:23 pm to 3rddownonthe8
The fricking stupidity in this thread is beyond embarrassing. Anyone arguing this is beyond stupid. Let's let the government tell us everything we MuST do in our private lives and private business. I mean, the government knows more about we should do then we do.....seperation of church and state...1st amendment don't mean dick anymore apparently and a lot of you are happy about it. Why don't you all go move to a country that the government can dictate your everyday life instead of speaking out against our country that never intended for this to happen.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:20 pm to fibonaccisquared
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In your "non-commie" world, police have no power to prevent murder because you did it on your property
You are either a moronic brain dead imbecile or a deranged psychopath or both probably. Same difference either way basically.
Your commie logic and world view is rotten to the core and you make me sick. frick you.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:28 pm to IT_Dawg
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The fricking stupidity in this thread is beyond embarrassing. Anyone arguing this is beyond stupid. Let's let the government tell us everything we MuST do in our private lives and private business. I mean, the government knows more about we should do then we do.....seperation of church and state...1st amendment don't mean dick anymore apparently and a lot of you are happy about it. Why don't you all go move to a country that the government can dictate your everyday life instead of speaking out against our country that never intended for this to happen
Thank you for this post.
I believe now more than ever though that we are the ones who are going to have to move to a new country if we want freedom.
Cancel the 4th of July and burn the dead Constitution and Bill of Rights. They couldn't to stop what they tried to stop. The American experiment is a Failure. S.I.Y.G.'e.
Posted on 3/25/16 at 8:29 pm to Jefferson Dawg
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moronic brain dead imbecile or a deranged psychopath or both probably
Nailed it!
Only one person in this thread comes off as brain dead, deranged, and likely psycopathic... hint a mirror will give you the answer. quote:
you make me sick
You've been sick for quite some time. You can get help.
One day, maybe you'll be able to hold a conversation that involves using logic and reasonable discourse. As usual, your most recent post failed to do either.
I'll class it up for you a bit and try to keep it professional...
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