re: Face it, folks, the problem doesn't lie with Richt.

This is a random example but I'm using it since I know a good bit about the program, but Virginia has made more obvious and meaningful and obvious attempts to improve their football program over the past 10-15 years than UGA has.

fricking Virginia.

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kill yourself if you think the entire AD doesn't want a NC at UGA on their resume

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I have no doubt that they want one. Who wouldn't? I just don't think they're willing to do what it takes to put the program in the best position to do so. That's the difference between UGA and some of its peers.

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I realize that some of our rivals spend more, and that could be a disadvantage to is, but that is NOT the reason we have 2 losses, got blown out on sat, and have lost to inferior teams for years.

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If you want to blame Richt, by extension you too must blame the administration for allowing him to make games like Saturday the norm.

As for UGA's motivation, here it is:

Athletics are now, have been, and always will be a marketing tool for the University. Period. So long as people keep showing up to Athens, spend money on t-shirts and at different University and city vendors, and (most importantly) keep on sending that check and their kids to UGA, all is well in their eyes and bitching like this is hardly noteworthy. The Hartman Fund has been pretty even keel throughout Richt's tenure and donations to the University itself have skyrocketed in Morhead's first year as President. Business is GOOD at UGA; why in the frick would they do anything to screw that up?

Another question: Are the University and professors tired of the football team?

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Another question: Are the University and professors tired of the football team?

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It's the University's best marketing tool, so I doubt it.

Some Professors might be ideologically opposed,but that's tough shite for them. 120 guys is a small slice of the total student body. It doesn't really affect the greater academic mission for regular students.

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Out of curiosity....what do you guys think it would take? Money? facilities? What would they need to do?

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Complete culture and attitude change. Unfortunately, it won't happen unless/until fans stop donating and attending and admins have to scramble to figure out how to fix the problem. We as fans don't hold them accountable via the language they speak ($$$) so why should they bother listening to our angry emails and phones calls? But I don't ever see that happening, though, so I wouldn't say it's even a moot point. Maybe that attitude existed during the Dooley years, but priorities have changed so much with the influx of money and UGA just does not share the same sense of urgency or priorities that our rival schools do.

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Another question: Are the University and professors tired of the football team?

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Yes and No. Yes in the sense that they're tired of being overshadowed by athletics on campus and No in the sense that, as Crow said, Athletics keeps them fed. UGA actually does a pretty solid job of funneling money from Athletics to Academics via Professorships and other large sum donations (not all athletic programs do this).

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Out of curiosity....what do you guys think it would take? Money? facilities? What would they need to do?

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Complete revamping of the culture at UGA. We will never be an FSU or a Bama because we do not have a win at all cost attitude. We want to win and be nice in the process...a laudable goal but not one that makes you competitive with the FSU's and Bama's of the world....

I dont think the Bulldog nation really wants to be another FSU or Bama. Some on these boards would cheat like hell and turn a blind eye to all sorts of heinous behavior by stud athletes but at the end of the day this is a state institution we are talking about, one that serves everyone in the state and a lot of people around the world. It is a major asset to the state and the region and not because of football. As much as this sucks from a football point of view it is much better to be UGA than Penn State or FSU or Alabama and especially Auburn. Just imagine the ramifications that the Sandusky debacle has had on the state of Pennsylvania and the region and Penn State alumnus. UGA can't have that sort of shite anymore than they can allow Jameis Winston of Johny Football type shite. It is what it is.....and if we ever do reach the summit the taste will be that much sweeter. I dont thin we will in my lifetime because the window of opportunity is getting tighter and tighter as the Auburns and the Mississippis of the world decide to follow suit of the FSUs and Bamas but if it does happen we can be proud of the fact that it was done correctly.

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We will never be an FSU or a Bama because we do not have a win at all cost attitude.

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This deserves a qoute in itself.

Probably to either do away with football or make it such an afterthought that they move funding elsewhere.