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re: Face it, folks, the problem doesn't lie with Richt.

Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:41 am to
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:41 am to
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Don't just repeat stupid shite you find on 247

I'm not. "Fire Richt" is a much more popular opinion. I don't think that would do any good if other things about the program's operation don't change. Those things are beyond the control of a HC.
Posted by PDXDawg
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:42 am to
This is the worst excuse of them all.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:45 am to
Oh lawd, then please enlighten us.
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:46 am to
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TV money mostly. Programs have more revenue, so they have more money to spend. This has led to wild inflation in facilities, coaching salaries, support staffs, etc.

UGA has not kept pace with its peers in the arms race.


I think this is true to some extent, ex. Alabama, but FSU won the NC last season with a paltry budget and mediocre coach. This was one reason why we were able to lure Pruitt away; we actually were able to give him a nice raise since he was being underpaid at FSU. FSU won their NC with superior athletes aka superior recruiting.
Posted by Chris_topher
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:48 am to
What are UGA's motives?

Answer this question and we shall proceed
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:50 am to
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FSU won the NC last season with a paltry budget and mediocre coach. This was one reason why we were able to lure Pruitt away; we actually were able to give him a nice raise since he was being underpaid at FSU. FSU won their NC with superior athletes aka superior recruiting.

FSU has better facilities than UGA, fwiw.

FSU's primary commitment comes in a different form. They don't give a frick about character concerns, as a university. They don't kick players off the team if they're good, pretty much no matter what.

UGA's staff is full of the best recruiters in the country, as evidenced by work here and at other schools. Maybe their misses are more of an indication of the quality of the product than the quality of their salesmanship.
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 8:56 am to
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What are UGA's motives?


I know this question wasn't directly at me but the priority for our admins is to increase the academic standing of our university. Sure, they would love to see a NC in football but that is not their priority. McGarity needs to make it his priority because football is absolutely king in the state of Georgia. Once top in-state recruits realize that Georgia is dedicated to building a NC team, more will join the bandwagon. The best football recruits want to play for the best football programs that have a position available to give them early playing time.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:00 am to
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It's comforting to know how lost y'all are

Try to get out & look around - do some research for yourself

Don't just repeat stupid shite you find on 247


Considering I've taken kids on recruiting trips to Bama, AU, UGA, UT, USCe among others schools, I have a pretty damn good idea on the amount of money and support staff they have. Why don't you try and get out and about and look at what other programs do instead of just spewing the same ole bs that most techsters do.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by PDXDawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:02 am to
This thread is all over the place and stinks of desperation. So what happened when we lost to Colorado, Boise, UCF, Nebraska, Vandy, Tucky, and SCe 3 years in a row?? Damn you admin!! Mcgarity scruuuuud us. Lol

Look if you like Richt and are happy with him as our coach just say that. I realize that some of our rivals spend more, and that could be a disadvantage to is, but that is NOT the reason we have 2 losses, got blown out on sat, and have lost to inferior teams for years.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:02 am to
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FSU has better facilities than UGA, fwiw.

FSU's primary commitment comes in a different form. They don't give a frick about character concerns, as a university. They don't kick players off the team if they're good, pretty much no matter what.

UGA's staff is full of the best recruiters in the country, as evidenced by work here and at other schools. Maybe their misses are more of an indication of the quality of the product than the quality of their salesmanship.


Well said, Crow.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:05 am to
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I know this question wasn't directly at me but the priority for our admins is to increase the academic standing of our university. Sure, they would love to see a NC in football but that is not their priority. McGarity needs to make it his priority because football is absolutely king in the state of Georgia. Once top in-state recruits realize that Georgia is dedicated to building a NC team, more will join the bandwagon. The best football recruits want to play for the best football programs that have a position available to give them early playing time.


Thank you. Couldn't have said it any better. The way things appear, it does seem that the admins are more concerned with academic standing, among other things. It seems that their mindset is that if a championship comes, then that is great and all but if not, then that is ok, too.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:06 am to
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Look if you like Richt and are happy with him as our coach just say that.


I think the overwhelming opinion for those who arent clamoring for Richt to be fired isnt so much that we like Richt as our coach. It is either you think the problem is above Richts head, or you dont think there is anyone that can be hired at this time that could certainly give us more than Richt does.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:10 am to
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This thread is all over the place and stinks of desperation. So what happened when we lost to Colorado, Boise, UCF, Nebraska, Vandy, Tucky, and SCe 3 years in a row?? Damn you admin!! Mcgarity scruuuuud us. Lol

Program weakness leads to more losses. Every program loses games they shouldn't. Weak programs lose more of those games than strong ones.
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Look if you like Richt and are happy with him as our coach just say that. I realize that some of our rivals spend more, and that could be a disadvantage to is, but that is NOT the reason we have 2 losses, got blown out on sat, and have lost to inferior teams for years.

I don't necessarily like him. I just can't look at the situation objectively and say that he's the big problem.

I generally think most coaches that get to this level know plenty about football to be successful. There are very few "plus" coaches, imo. They're more neutral once you reach a certain threshold. Sometimes a coach can be a problem if he's in over his head (Chizik, Goff, etc.) but I don't think that's the case with Richt.

He's not a plus coach, but he's also not a negative coach.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:12 am to
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I think the overwhelming opinion for those who arent clamoring for Richt to be fired isnt so much that we like Richt as our coach. It is either you think the problem is above Richts head, or you dont think there is anyone that can be hired at this time that could certainly give us more than Richt does.


Let me ask you this: What coach in his right mind would want to go to a program that doesn't give the necessary support. This is well about Richt's head. And I, for one, am a Richt supporter.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:15 am to
I like Richt, but I think sometimes when you are at a place for so long a change can be healthy. With that said, there is absolutely no one UGA could hire right now that I would be confident that could do any better than Richt. Also, firing Richt with his record against our rivals doesnt scream come to UGA for the top tier coaches out there.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 9:18 am
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:17 am to
And recruits, too.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:20 am to
Indeed
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:32 am to
LINK
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 9:37 am
Posted by td01241
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:33 am to
Link doesnt work
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 9:37 am to
Fixed
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