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Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:00 pm to DawgFan85
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:00 pm to DawgFan85
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I believe what your referring to here is the “Construction Worker” & “Construction Electrician” classifications.
They still have a set minimum rate of pay but they do not receive some of the benefits that journeyman and apprentices receive.
Allison Smith has some classification, I can't remember what they call it, it's like a blend of foreman and PM. It's not a PM because they still perform labor, but most of what they do is paperwork and oversight,, like a foreman, but it's a step up from foreman, but not a PM. He still does some labor but less than 50% of his hours, so he isn't beholden to the union rules.
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Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:04 pm to deeprig9
How often do you drop off Chick-Fil-A breakfast for your employees?
Depends on how much money they make me
all kidding aside I try and do it once a week if I can
How often do you drop off Chick=Fil-A for your customers?
As many times as I need to in order to keep receiving purchase orders/contracts
I try to support Chick-fil-A as much as I can because their a good customer of mine
Depends on how much money they make me
all kidding aside I try and do it once a week if I can How often do you drop off Chick=Fil-A for your customers?
As many times as I need to in order to keep receiving purchase orders/contracts
I try to support Chick-fil-A as much as I can because their a good customer of mine
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:11 pm to deeprig9
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Allison Smith has some classification, I can't remember what they call it, it's like a blend of foreman and PM. It's not a PM because they still perform labor, but most of what they do is paperwork and oversight,, like a foreman, but it's a step up from foreman, but not a PM. He still does some labor but less than 50% of his hours, so he isn't beholden to the union rules.
It may be a position they have set up internally because if an employee receives a referral from the union they have to abide by the contract. It's my understanding that a lot of the Allison-Smith are not union members which would allow them to have negotiated rates with the PM's
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:21 pm to DawgFan85
Does your company travel?
We’v Had problems sending our local union guys out of state because union doesn’t like it when our GA rates undercut the NE or CA rates.
We’v Had problems sending our local union guys out of state because union doesn’t like it when our GA rates undercut the NE or CA rates.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:23 pm to DoubleDawg22
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Just looking at career options and considering these.
How's your Espanol?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:31 pm to deeprig9
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Does your company travel? We’v Had problems sending our local union guys out of state because union doesn’t like it when our GA rates undercut the NE or CA rates.
We have in the past, but very rarely. There's certain regulations when a company travels outside their jurisdiction that they must follow. A company is only allowed to send a certain amount of people from the company to another jurisdiction. Any additional help needed must come from the local union and the company must pay the wages and benefits from the local unions contract. It can get kinda confusing.
As far as an employee, they can go anywhere in the country and work for any local union.
Actually a lot of our members are out west right now because there is a ton of work in the area and the wages and benefits are higher then here. Which this makes it hard for us to man our jobs locally
Posted on 10/18/17 at 7:39 pm to DawgFan85
I owned 2 and sold my last one to a bigger company and am almost done working for them. What do you want to know? I do heavy Commercial, Industrial, and MIL...
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:14 pm to DawgFan85
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Actually a lot of our members are out west right now because there is a ton of work in the area and the wages and benefits are higher then here.
In addition to our main ATL site, our other main site is in CA.
We've done the math....
We could fly our two main ATL electricians out to CA for a week, give them $50/d per diem, put them up in a decent hotel, pay their rental car, fly them back, pay for their travel time, plus 40 hours each, and it is still cheaper than what our two regular IBEW guys are in CA for just 40 hours.
We broached this with AS, they said no-can-do... IBEW breaks legs for that kind of shite.
This post was edited on 10/18/17 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:27 pm to deeprig9
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In addition to our main ATL site, our other main site is in CA. We've done the math.... We could fly our two main ATL electricians out to CA for a week, give them $50/d per diem, put them up in a decent hotel, pay their rental car, fly them back, pay for their travel time, plus 40 hours each, and it is still cheaper than what our two regular IBEW guys are in CA for just 40 hours. We broached this with AS, they said no-can-do... IBEW breaks legs for that kind of shite.
We recently priced installing a new generator at a facility for one of our regular customers in TX. We contacted their local union, our local union, and also international. We were informed that as long as we didn't send more than one Forman and a journeyman from ATL that we would be fine. Not sure if CA is different then TX but both situations sound very similar and we will probably be awarded the project within the next couple of weeks.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:30 pm to Peter Buck
If you're gonna do construction, do industrial construction and be either an electrician or pipefitter.
You're welcome.
You're welcome.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 8:40 pm to DoubleDawg22
You might be better off considering a job in sales where you are building relationships with construction Project Managers and superintendents. Glass, steel, waterproofing, concrete,concrete accessories, brick, and about 200 other products. Depending on which industry you land in, you can earn upwards to $500k a year. I landed in commercial concrete which is the least rewarding from a monetary position. I earn a good income but it took me 19 years to get to the top of the pay scale which is low six figures as a salary. I have friends who are 20 year guys at White Cap Supply who made $300 and $500 respectively last year. Those jobs are hard to get though as they have an internal line of people waiting. Their lower tier guys make $100-$250k though. Whatever the industry though, the competition is narrow but is tough. Relationships are key. Most of these jobs have very generous expense accounts though that make relationship building easier if you utilize the money wisely. You also get to take the PMs and supers on fun excursions like hunting and fishing trips and gold outings. But make no mistake, if you are not working your arse off in between that stuff then you won't last.
Just a career option to consider where you get to work with the PMs and supers on projects and be a part of the project teams without the stress associated with some of those positions.
Just a career option to consider where you get to work with the PMs and supers on projects and be a part of the project teams without the stress associated with some of those positions.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:23 pm to DawgFan85
You guys ever hire subs for fire alarm/security? I'm an Account Exec for a pretty big integrator. We're always looking for decent ECs to work with.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:27 pm to deeprig9
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IBEW breaks legs for that kind of shite.
Organized crime and commercial construction are alive and well.
To the OP, what would you like to know?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:32 pm to RhodeDawg
To the OP:
Get a degree in Construction Management. Rig is correct in that it's feast or famine to some extent.
Get a degree in Construction Management. Rig is correct in that it's feast or famine to some extent.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:33 pm to VoxDawg
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I'm an Account Exec for a pretty big integrator.
Do you prefer Lenel or Prowatch?
What's your favorite VMS?
What do you think about the recent hikvision hack? How does that expose the dozens of other OEM's like Axis, among many other hypocrites who brand themselves on hikvision factory product?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:36 pm to RhodeDawg
With a BS in CM you'll start as an assistant PM, a project engineer, or an assistant Super.
My advice would be to learn estimating, go the estimator route. That said, there's no such thing as an EPM (estimator/ project manager) you're either one or the other. I'd recommended estimating.
My advice would be to learn estimating, go the estimator route. That said, there's no such thing as an EPM (estimator/ project manager) you're either one or the other. I'd recommended estimating.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:42 pm to deeprig9
DRig, are you involved in datacenters somehow?
To the OP, learn about DCs.
To the OP, learn about DCs.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:54 pm to RhodeDawg
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DRig, are you involved in datacenters somehow?
It's my forte`.
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To the OP, learn about DCs.
Don't. They are going away quickly.
Posted on 10/18/17 at 9:55 pm to deeprig9
Off shoring?
Posted on 10/18/17 at 10:08 pm to RhodeDawg
Data Centering.
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