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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:36 pm
Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:36 pm
Which one of you is submitting the power ranking blurbs on the SECR and said Kirby's clock management was our downfall?
Show yourself.
Clock management?
Show yourself.
Clock management?
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Posted on 10/4/16 at 8:36 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 10/5/16 at 6:40 am to deeprig9
First, It wasn't me.
It could have hurt.
But it didn't. In fact, if anything, it might have helped. However, had we not connected on the pass to Ridley, it would have put us in an severe jam. On the other hand...we might have connected on the next play and won with no time left on the clock.
It's always best not to play what if. The main thing is, it did not hurt us.
It could have hurt.
But it didn't. In fact, if anything, it might have helped. However, had we not connected on the pass to Ridley, it would have put us in an severe jam. On the other hand...we might have connected on the next play and won with no time left on the clock.
It's always best not to play what if. The main thing is, it did not hurt us.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 7:14 am to DawgsLife
It's incorrect to say it was our downfall - that is just not true at all.
However, I bet if we are in that exact same position again in another game, Kirby calls the first timeout earlier.
However, I bet if we are in that exact same position again in another game, Kirby calls the first timeout earlier.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 8:26 am to deeprig9
I have no issues with Kirby's clock management this year. Somethings didn't work out exactly as planned, but in real time, he has made good use of his game timing skills. Keep on keeping on coach.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:25 am to hangingdawg
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I have no issues with Kirby's clock management this year.
Well, we have had 5 games and he has made two mistakes in time management that could easily have hurt us. I don't think either have hurt us, but that is definitely something he needs to get better at.
All in all, he has done a pretty good job, but to think he has done a good job of clock management would be a mistake, too.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 9:26 am to ATLdawg25
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It's incorrect to say it was our downfall - that is just not true at all.
I am assuming that you meant to post this to deeprig in response to whoever said it was our downfall, because I did not say it.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:29 am to hangingdawg
I didn't think Kirby was as bad at time management against UT. Blazevich was an absolute idiot for not getting out of bounds with 30 seconds to go, but that's not on Kirby.
In a couple games though, his clock management has been unbelievably poor, especially at the end of the game against Nicholls. I think it is unfair to blame him this week for time management though.
In a couple games though, his clock management has been unbelievably poor, especially at the end of the game against Nicholls. I think it is unfair to blame him this week for time management though.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 10:38 am to Dawgsontop34
But on a good note he DID use a timeout in the 3 min area at Missouri which turned out to be a game saver.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 11:21 am to Dawgman77
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But on a good note he DID use a timeout in the 3 min area at Missouri which turned out to be a game saver.
But that was something every college coach in the nation should know to do. When you're going to get the ball back for a drive to try and win the game, would you rather have 3:40 and 1 TO, or 3:00 and 2 TOs. It's clearly the first one, and although I'm glad he didn't screw it up, that wasn't a tough decision.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:11 pm to DawgsLife
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It's incorrect to say it was our downfall - that is just not true at all.
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I am assuming that you meant to post this to deeprig in response to whoever said it was our downfall, because I did not say it.
yeah sorry - i was posting in agreement with you. It worked out in the end but given the information at hand with 2 mins left, I bet he would take that timeout 9 times out of 10.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 12:24 pm to ATLdawg25
Actually, rewatching it, not calling a TO with 2 minutes left was a pretty inexcusable decision. It worked out, and we didn't lose the game because of the decision making, but that was awful.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:18 pm to Dawgsontop34
I think Kirby saved the timeout in case Eason got sacked which was very likely. I questioned the decision at first, but I think it was a good move personally. Both scenarios have pros and cons.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:32 pm to Red&Black
More time is saved when the TO is called when the other team is on offense trying to run clock. I would've called all three TOs when the Vols had the ball.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:34 pm to Dawgsontop34
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I didn't think Kirby was as bad at time management against UT. Blazevich was an absolute idiot for not getting out of bounds with 30 seconds to go, but that's not on Kirby.
You're absolutely right on that.
What I had a problem with was the clock ticking down, and we lost something like 35 seconds because he did not call a time out. As it turned out, it didn't affect us because we got the TD. If we had not gotten the TD, we would have had 10 seconds or so from the 50 and it would have put us in the Hail Mary situation that Tennessee got in. (Of course, it worked out ok for them) Like I said....it didn't hurt us, but had we needed the time it would have cost us something like 3 plays or so.
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In a couple games though, his clock management has been unbelievably poor, especially at the end of the game against Nicholls.
I don't remember the situation with Nicholls. I just chalk it up to a young inexperienced coach. Hopefully he learns from them, but if we are pointing out 3-4 mistakes in 5 games concerning clock management, then he might not be learning from them.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:35 pm to Red&Black
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I think Kirby saved the timeout in case Eason got sacked which was very likely.
If he gets sacked you get to the line and clock the ball. If you allow the other team to control the clock (by not calling a TO when they have the ball) they certainly will take as much time off the clock as they can. It is a certainty to lose all of the time they can waste.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:39 pm to ATLdawg25
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yeah sorry - i was posting in agreement with you.
No problem. That's what i thought, but wanted to make sure you didn't misunderstand my post.
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I bet he would take that timeout 9 times out of 10.
I'm sure he would. Sometimes I (we) tend to forget that they have milliseconds to make a decision. It's not an easy job and it has a ton of pressure. He'll get it figured out.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 1:59 pm to Red&Black
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I think Kirby saved the timeout in case Eason got sacked which was very likely. I questioned the decision at first, but I think it was a good move personally. Both scenarios have pros and cons.
You save 40 seconds when you're on defense. It takes around 25ish seconds (maybe less) to recover after a sack. That's at least 15 seconds that go to waste. It's not the right decision according to every statistical measurement.
And if you don't get sacked, it's a waste of around 30 seconds.
Like DawgsLife said, I'll chalk it up to being a new HC, and I believe he'll improve, but it's absolutely concerning.
This post was edited on 10/5/16 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 10/5/16 at 4:37 pm to Dawgsontop34
Kirby was at the Bama uga 2012 seccg. If Murray had a timeout available, we wouldve won.
Kirby screwed up the call. But it didn't effect the outcome. Those are the best lessons to learn.
Kirby screwed up the call. But it didn't effect the outcome. Those are the best lessons to learn.
Posted on 10/5/16 at 5:04 pm to Dawgsontop34
Don't forget about needing a time out to use in case of a 10 second run off rule. Any penalty could cost you the game without it.
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