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re: Brendan Langley officially switching to WR
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:01 pm to Crowknowsbest
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:01 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I would temper expectations for this season. I think there'll be flashes, even for whole games, where the secondary plays well. There will also be times where youth will rear its ugly head in moments of WTF
Grantham wasn't given tempered expectations, even though we lost 8 starters on defense. Freshmen did freshmen shite, and it cost us on some big plays.
It's OK for Pruitt to have some young guys make some young mistakes, but not Grantham.
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Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:02 pm to MSGADawg5988
Clemson doesn't worry me as much. They have totally new skill position guys, are on the road, and our pass rush should be able to take enough pressure off the secondary.
It's when we go on the road that I'm more concerned. Teams will be able to communicate better pre-snap and take advantage of looks that our young guys may telegraph.
It's when we go on the road that I'm more concerned. Teams will be able to communicate better pre-snap and take advantage of looks that our young guys may telegraph.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:02 pm to deeprig9
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Grantham wasn't given tempered expectations, even though we lost 8 starters on defense. Freshmen did freshmen shite, and it cost us on some big plays.
It's OK for Pruitt to have some young guys make some young mistakes, but not Grantham.
Grantham was in year 4. It's his job to not have those problems by that point.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:13 pm to Crowknowsbest
One of Grantham's biggest enemies was attrition.
Pruitt is dealing with that right now.
And it makes most of us scared to death about who we are going to field in the secondary.
Imagine losing JHC, Matthews (possibly... there's lots of smoke on the internet), and Wiggins from our team and Langley from our secondary.
Pruitt is more than likely going to have to deal with Juniors leaving early, too (something that never really bit Grantham).
Pruitt is dealing with that right now.
And it makes most of us scared to death about who we are going to field in the secondary.
Imagine losing JHC, Matthews (possibly... there's lots of smoke on the internet), and Wiggins from our team and Langley from our secondary.
Pruitt is more than likely going to have to deal with Juniors leaving early, too (something that never really bit Grantham).
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:18 pm to meansonny
JHC was the only one that really concerned me, and mainly because I thought he may be able to bump down to LB and give us some speed there.
Neither Langley nor Wiggins had really done anything this spring that indicated that they would be significant contributors in the secondary. That could have changed in fall camp, but I wouldn't have bet on it.
Matthews is a separate case entirely. I won't speculate on his situation.
Neither Langley nor Wiggins had really done anything this spring that indicated that they would be significant contributors in the secondary. That could have changed in fall camp, but I wouldn't have bet on it.
Matthews is a separate case entirely. I won't speculate on his situation.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:25 pm to Crowknowsbest
I was excited about Langley's size but then South Carolina happened.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:27 pm to Damn Good Dawg
They wouldn't be moving him to WR if he was going to help more at DB. It's really that simple
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:29 pm to Crowknowsbest
JHC was rated a 98 by recruiting services.
Matthews a 96.
And Wiggins a 93.
You can't remove that level of talent on a defense and say that you don't feel it. Or that it doesn't bother you.
You can say that they didn't achieve anything at UGA.
They started in the SEC as true freshmen.
That's an achievement. And it absolutely leads to a quicker development and indicates possibly a higher ceiling in the future.
Pruitt is going to have to deal with this attrition. And it is absolutely not going to make his coaching job any easier (recruiting job... possibly. But the talent dip on the field makes his job much, much harder).
Matthews a 96.
And Wiggins a 93.
You can't remove that level of talent on a defense and say that you don't feel it. Or that it doesn't bother you.
You can say that they didn't achieve anything at UGA.
They started in the SEC as true freshmen.
That's an achievement. And it absolutely leads to a quicker development and indicates possibly a higher ceiling in the future.
Pruitt is going to have to deal with this attrition. And it is absolutely not going to make his coaching job any easier (recruiting job... possibly. But the talent dip on the field makes his job much, much harder).
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:30 pm to Crowknowsbest
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They wouldn't be moving him to WR if he was going to help more at DB. It's really that simple
You have too much faith in our coaching staff (Bruce Figgins, Richard Samuel IV, Bean Anderson, etc.)
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:36 pm to meansonny
As of the end of spring practice, Wiggins and Langley were 3rd string at corner and safety, respectively. I'm not going to panic about losing them.
Maybe so, but I'm giving the new defensive staff a chance.
I didn't address Matthews. Losing him would hurt, but we haven't lost him yet.
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You have too much faith in our coaching staff (Bruce Figgins, Richard Samuel IV, Bean Anderson, etc.)
Maybe so, but I'm giving the new defensive staff a chance.
I didn't address Matthews. Losing him would hurt, but we haven't lost him yet.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:40 pm to Crowknowsbest
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As of the end of spring practice, Wiggins and Langley were 3rd string at corner and safety
doesn't mean much...just that they had a bad pring...they still would have helped with depth. as soon as a DB gets hurt, Langley wil be back on defense. Dude is only a sophmore, he had time to get better at DB
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:43 pm to K9
Matthews would hurt real bad. I think he has the skill set that Pruitt can work with in our secondary. What kind of smoke are you talking about meansonny?
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:45 pm to MSGADawg5988
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Matthews would hurt real bad. I think he has the skill set that Pruitt can work with in our secondary. What kind of smoke are you talking about meansonny?
not meansonny but I'd say it's 50/50 that he's on UGA's roster in September
Posted on 5/12/14 at 10:46 pm to Crowknowsbest
If that happens than we better darn well hope that our DLine is as good as we think it is.
Posted on 5/12/14 at 11:04 pm to MSGADawg5988
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What kind of smoke are you talking about meansonny?
Obviously nothing is official.
And I want him to get an All SEC nod with the Bulldawgs.
But I read nothing but "thin ice" from the insiders.
I think he's a good kid. But that alone doesn't mean he will be on the team in Fall.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:07 am to Damn Good Dawg
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You have too much faith in our coaching staff (Bruce Figgins, Richard Samuel IV, Bean Anderson, etc.)
Brandon Miller, Kiante Tripp, the list goes on and on... They have a track record of fricking up this sort of decision and I think it is the wrong one on Langley. MAYBE he wasn't going to contribute in this super thin secondary, but I feel very, very confident saying that he will not contribute anything at all as a WR.
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I was excited about Langley's size but then South Carolina happened.
You can't be serious. That was his second real college game ever and Spurrier had a chip on his shoulder because Langley flipped from them and wanted to pick on him. That is the last time he really saw the field, Grantham benched him after that like an idiot and put him in his damned doghouse with about half the rest of the roster. If you're really knocking him for not looking good in what was really his second college game ever as a true freshman starting in the SEC, you should probably take a step back and think about that.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:15 am to Crowknowsbest
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Clemson doesn't worry me as much. They have totally new skill position guys, are on the road, and our pass rush should be able to take enough pressure off the secondary.
It's when we go on the road that I'm more concerned. Teams will be able to communicate better pre-snap and take advantage of looks that our young guys may telegraph.
I'm not worried about Clemson at all. That offense in our game is going to be a shell of what it was last year and people seem to forget that we put up 35 on that D without Gurley and Mitchell for most of the game. All Mason has to do is not frick up and we should put around that same amount or more on them this year. There is little chance they can score as effectively this year as they could last. I think we win that game going away by 2 TDs or more.
On the road...you know, honestly this secondary cannot possibly be worse than last year. This defense as a whole can't. So we could literally just send everyone out there with earplugs in and they'd still have a great chance to look more like they knew exactly what they were doing and what was going on than those guys did last season.
If they can just actually get in position pre-snap, they've already got a huge head start on being better than last year's secondary and if they can telegraph something, I'll just be glad that our guys know what they are doing, that is a huge step in the right direction, we'll worry about not letting everyone else know later.
Someone else mentioned the Terry move a few posts ago as well and I just wanted to say I think that was a bad move as well. I do think he actually is likely to contribute as a S, unlike Langley at WR, but I still don't like the move.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:28 am to Nicolae
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Someone else mentioned the Terry move a few posts ago as well and I just wanted to say I think that was a bad move as well. I do think he actually is likely to contribute as a S, unlike Langley at WR, but I still don't like the move.
As the offseason progresses, his move to safety looks better all the time.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:24 am to Nicolae
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I feel very, very confident saying that he will not contribute anything at all as a WR.
That's silly. In 2015, we lose everything at WR. Langley could absolutely contribute
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:45 am to Crowknowsbest
Langley impressed early enough to start and Wiggins was such a cerebral/instinctive corner. Even Bama corners take a couple of seasons to get their footing. Both those guys just needed some experience under their belts.
To indicate these subtractions are light is wrong imo. With that, I still think Dawson is good enough to hold down the 2nd or 3rd corner spot. One of Parrish or Fenteng (if not both)has to be a solid contributor and we'll be okay in the backfield. It's the safeties that is the worrisome position imo. |I think JJ Green eases some of the sting from Wiggins departure.
To indicate these subtractions are light is wrong imo. With that, I still think Dawson is good enough to hold down the 2nd or 3rd corner spot. One of Parrish or Fenteng (if not both)has to be a solid contributor and we'll be okay in the backfield. It's the safeties that is the worrisome position imo. |I think JJ Green eases some of the sting from Wiggins departure.
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