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re: Bored. Off season. Took another look at the Spring game - thoughts ...

Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:48 am to
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:48 am to
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They have 2 stud rbs and with experience and that's it.


We only have 2 stud rbs too, but if you considered experience, we only have Chubb. Michel didn't even play the whole season. AJ T has no experience, KM has experience as a freshman, not so much lately.

LSU always have 3-4 rbs that play and do very well. Have you forgotten they ran like 4 guys vs us in teh SEC championship game? Just b/c we might not know who their #4 guy is, just like they don't know who AJ Turman is, doesn't mean they aren't talented. LSU also have D Guice (#46 overall ranked) coming in, plus D Williams.


Ohio st has E Elliot and C Samuel.

Did you forget about Bama? I mentioned them too.


You guys are being way to biased for UGA that you think we have the best rb group in the nation, which is 10x better than the 2nd best rb group. In reality we have Chubb who is the best rb in the nation, then after that we have guys based on potential and battling injuries. If all our rbs are healthy for the whole season, then yes we WILL have the best RB group in the nation. But will they?

KM had a good freshman year, only a couple of good games over 100 yds with 1 being vs Florida Atlantic. His sophomore year wasn't as good before he got injured, and last season re injured his knee, if I remember correctly, and was out for most of the season again. KM has the speed, we all know that, but most of his other running attributes need to get better, like balance and vision. Now this is the UGA biased coming in for KM. You think other fans would be hyping KM up like you guys? He is good, but if you look at his stats and injury history, it ain't nothing special. Basically he hasn't been consistent enough in college to show how good he really is.

S Michel is a stud, and I liked him more than Chubb, but once he got hurt he didn't really do much for the rest of the season. Before he got hurt, he showed his talent and versatility, but again, 5 games for a freshman isn't enough to anoint him being better than most other 2nd string running backs in the nation.


AJ T is the biggest question mark of all, and I don't see how you guys can say with any certainty that he is better than the other 4th or 5th string rbs. He was ranked #234 and #23 rated rb in his class. Sure he may look good in the GDay game, where Michel and Marshall were out w/ injuries.

Douglas, I am a huge fan of, but I wish that kid went to another school b/c I want to see him as a starting rb in college. Every time he comes in, there will be 1 guy getting trucked on the defense, that is a given.

Again, the only RB that has proven anything great for a whole season, has only been Chubb. Injuries are a real part of the game, and how many times have we been reduced down to 2 rbs? Remember Douglas and JJ Green? Last season Chubb and Douglas?
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 10:00 am
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 9:53 am to
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I uh, I agree with him on our RB depth. Michel had one injury last season, albeit a serious one. What bothers me is that he injured himself yet again in the Spring enough to only get limited minutes and was held out of the Spring game entirely. That's two injuries, at least, that have kept him from getting serious minutes. It's a concern.

Marshall is a great back, but he tried to come back once and looked bad, before he got hurt again - badly. You can say he came back too soon, but I doubt the coaches would have put him out there if they thought he wasn't ready. Then we heard he was ready again this Spring - and he got hurt again.

I have high hopes for Turman. But a toe injury kept him out an entire season. If he was healthy he would have played last season, especially in the Mizzou game when all we had were Chubb and Douglas. Turman looked great in the Spring game and I think he'd be a great #3 or even #2 option. But he's missed an entire season with an injury - so it is a concern.

Chubb actually was injured for the Tennessee game last year. He had surgery on his thumb. Can't recall the stats exactly, but I think he had 11 carries in that game for under 3 yards a carry. Fortunately we had Gurley running all pissed off like and didn't need Chubb that game. The thumb injury doesn't mean Chubb is injury prone, he clearly isn't. But given the rash of injuries with the #2, #3, and #4 RBs (I'm counting Douglas as #5 behind Turman, but even if Turman is #5 the point is the same), we could be one injury to Chubb away from Douglas as our only RB.

This is not farfetched - at all. It happened last year when we had the exact same RBs plus Gurley. Now Gurley is gone, and the two RBs that are supposed to replace him have - since he left - sustained more injuries.

Now, we've got one of the top two RBs in the country, so I wouldn't trade our situation with anybody. But we are a lot closer to a RB disaster next season than people are giving us credit for. If Chubb and just one of Marshall, Michel and Turman stay healthy next season - we are in great shape. But if they do - it will be a first.

So I'm concerned about it. Not enough to commit suicide or anything, but I think it's a valid concern.

Further affiant sayeth naught.


Hey you better watch out, if you keep a realistic view on things instead of being full Disney, they will think you are an alter.

You are 100% right in your post. All UGA fans should know how much injuries affect our team since we've had so many injuries. I wish we knew the % of injuries that occur to our 2 deep squads compared to other top flight programs. I think Joe T old school strength program has been the problem. You can get bigger and stronger all you want, but your tendons and ligaments still have to support everything. We have had so many knee injuries it is sickening. When Gurley went down, that was the 1st time I felt like I wanted to throw up watching a game.

Also the only reason why it seems I'm so 'negative' is b/c I've been reading this site for at least a year and hate seeing all this sunshine being pumped up by our fan base. Sure it is fine over here on the UGA board, but on the main board most of them realize we haven't done anything in almost 10 yrs and a NC in 35 yrs. We are already the laughing stock when it comes to arrests.

Im also the type who would rather have lower expectations and then be surprised when we go above those instead of thinking we are the best only to be brought down to reality early in the season.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 9:58 am
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 10:48 am to
Where did you go to college?
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 11:52 am to
So do you know how to debate? I'm using facts about stats and injuries and you can't do the same? Just post factual information and it will shut me up, but you can't.

KM
-only had 3 game over 100yds as freshman FACT
-Had 0 games over 100yds and 1 TD as a soph in 5 games FACT
-Tore right knee up missed 8 games to end soph season FACT
-AVG 2.03 YPC as a JR on 11 carries FACT
-Hurt his right leg during Troy game and missed rest of season FACT

AJ Turman
-No stats missed all of freshman season

S Michel
-Versatile RB with good hands FACT
-Missed 5 games on the season FACT
-Avg 6.4 YPC and 15.1yd/reception FACT
-Stud FACT

N Chubb - STUD FACT

So as you see KM has the potential but hasn't proven anything considering only playing 1 out of 3 seasons. And even when he did play he has the speed, but is very top heavy and easy to trip up.

IF all are healthy, we are the best, but we shouldn't assume that KM will be back to anything like he was before and we have no idea what AJ T will be like. Practice is not the same as game time, as J Rumph has shown us time and time again. Until they prove it in the game, I'm having lowered expectations. But our top 2 are the best in the nation that is for sure.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 11:52 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 12:26 pm to
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We only have 2 stud rbs too,


Yup, but we have more experience behind them than the other schools.

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LSU always have 3-4 rbs that play and do very well. Have you forgotten they ran like 4 guys vs us in teh SEC championship game?


I really don't give a shite what they had 4 years ago. I looked at their stats and they don't have anywhere near the core that we do.

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Ohio st has E Elliot and C Samuel.


Samuel, who rushed for fewer yards than Michel? Again, they don't have the quality of KM, AJ, or ROWK.


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Did you forget about Bama? I mentioned them too.



They have Henry and Drake. The other studs have transferred out.


Instead of telling us why our guys suck why don't you tell us how the other teams have better rb situations. All you're doing is talking how are guys aren't as good as the others but you're not saying how the others are better.
This post was edited on 6/7/15 at 12:30 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 6/7/15 at 2:50 pm to
Dawgonit, where did you go to college?
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