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Bored. Off season. Took another look at the Spring game - thoughts ...
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:15 pm
Probably nothing new here, but ...
- Less impressed with Bauta watching the game again. He could certainly do well for us, but he never even tried to go downfield once. He hit the slant and the out patterns well, but the one dump off pass he hit for a TD never would have happened in real life. Ganus would have planted him hard and maybe even created a turnover.
- Love our depth at certain key spots like the OL. We also have good depth at outside linebacker, fullback, TE, and even decent depth of talent at DB. I was pretty happy with what I saw on the DL as well, especially with the thought of adding big Trent to the mix this fall.
- We are wafer thin at WR. This may be the weakest group at WR we've had in awhile. Our best is Malcolm Mitchell who has a history of injuries and took himself out of the Spring game late with a shoulder issue. Our 2nd best WR appears to be McKenzie who has difficulty catching the ball at times and pulled his hamstring early and was gone for the rest of the game. 3rd would be JSW who is coming back from an injury and seemed to be pulling up just a bit in this game. After that ....
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- We are deep and talented at TE. Thankfully our TEs have stayed healthy and are extremely talented. We will need them to be.
- We are pretty thin at RB as well. Sure, you can list a lot of talented names, including Michel and Marshall. But they don't help when sitting on the bench where they were for a good bit of the Spring, including the Spring game. We are one injury to Chubb away from starting Turman, who has had his own injury issues. After that we've got Douglas, after that we got nuttin'. Seeing as we don't have a recognized freshman stud RB coming in this Fall, we could have problems here. If Chubb stays healthy it won't matter, of course, but it does make me a bit nervous.
- Natrez Patrick is going to be a star for us. He should still be in high school, but looked like a vet. He was singularly unimpressed with the offense, played like it, and I am already missing him when he leaves in three years.
- I thought Kimbrough was the hardest hitter on the team last year. As a starter, he is going to put together a nice highlight reel of bone rearranging hits.
- Trammel Terry really pops when he hits as well. Nice to see him healthy and active.
- Ramsey is the clear #1 in the coaches eyes, even to the extent of keeping him out of the game late and letting Bauta clean up in garbage time. He has a very quick release, the ball gets to the receiver fast, and he can definitely hit the long ball. It's definitely going to be Ramsey unless Lambert comes in and goes nuts.
- I still think Park could be a good QB. Has a great arm, decent touch, and good size. So sue me.
- Amechi will get some quality minutes, which is saying something given the talent at OLB. Our defense should be fresh all game given the talent we can sub in and out at all positions (with the lone exception possibly being the interior DL, but Mayes, Boyd and Deloach looked decent, and Ledbetter played well for a guy who should still be in high school).
- Wynn could be very, very good if he gets the snap down and gets a bit more consistent on reading the MLB at the line of scrimmage. On Chubb's TD, he cleared out the entire left side of the DL and seems to pass block well.
Bottom line, we are going to need every single one of our incoming frosh WRs if they are at all ready, and Chubb may have a monster year if he stays healthy, simply because - like last year - he may be our only quality back that makes it through the season uninjured. If Chubb gets hurt, with a new QB and a thin WR corps, our offense could struggle big time. On the flip side, I see only positives for our defense, with the only exception possibly being our interior DL depth and, thus, our ability to stop a dominating ground game in the 4th quarter. Trent Thompson could not be coming in at a better time.
- Less impressed with Bauta watching the game again. He could certainly do well for us, but he never even tried to go downfield once. He hit the slant and the out patterns well, but the one dump off pass he hit for a TD never would have happened in real life. Ganus would have planted him hard and maybe even created a turnover.
- Love our depth at certain key spots like the OL. We also have good depth at outside linebacker, fullback, TE, and even decent depth of talent at DB. I was pretty happy with what I saw on the DL as well, especially with the thought of adding big Trent to the mix this fall.
- We are wafer thin at WR. This may be the weakest group at WR we've had in awhile. Our best is Malcolm Mitchell who has a history of injuries and took himself out of the Spring game late with a shoulder issue. Our 2nd best WR appears to be McKenzie who has difficulty catching the ball at times and pulled his hamstring early and was gone for the rest of the game. 3rd would be JSW who is coming back from an injury and seemed to be pulling up just a bit in this game. After that ....
. - We are deep and talented at TE. Thankfully our TEs have stayed healthy and are extremely talented. We will need them to be.
- We are pretty thin at RB as well. Sure, you can list a lot of talented names, including Michel and Marshall. But they don't help when sitting on the bench where they were for a good bit of the Spring, including the Spring game. We are one injury to Chubb away from starting Turman, who has had his own injury issues. After that we've got Douglas, after that we got nuttin'. Seeing as we don't have a recognized freshman stud RB coming in this Fall, we could have problems here. If Chubb stays healthy it won't matter, of course, but it does make me a bit nervous.
- Natrez Patrick is going to be a star for us. He should still be in high school, but looked like a vet. He was singularly unimpressed with the offense, played like it, and I am already missing him when he leaves in three years.
- I thought Kimbrough was the hardest hitter on the team last year. As a starter, he is going to put together a nice highlight reel of bone rearranging hits.
- Trammel Terry really pops when he hits as well. Nice to see him healthy and active.
- Ramsey is the clear #1 in the coaches eyes, even to the extent of keeping him out of the game late and letting Bauta clean up in garbage time. He has a very quick release, the ball gets to the receiver fast, and he can definitely hit the long ball. It's definitely going to be Ramsey unless Lambert comes in and goes nuts.
- I still think Park could be a good QB. Has a great arm, decent touch, and good size. So sue me.
- Amechi will get some quality minutes, which is saying something given the talent at OLB. Our defense should be fresh all game given the talent we can sub in and out at all positions (with the lone exception possibly being the interior DL, but Mayes, Boyd and Deloach looked decent, and Ledbetter played well for a guy who should still be in high school).
- Wynn could be very, very good if he gets the snap down and gets a bit more consistent on reading the MLB at the line of scrimmage. On Chubb's TD, he cleared out the entire left side of the DL and seems to pass block well.
Bottom line, we are going to need every single one of our incoming frosh WRs if they are at all ready, and Chubb may have a monster year if he stays healthy, simply because - like last year - he may be our only quality back that makes it through the season uninjured. If Chubb gets hurt, with a new QB and a thin WR corps, our offense could struggle big time. On the flip side, I see only positives for our defense, with the only exception possibly being our interior DL depth and, thus, our ability to stop a dominating ground game in the 4th quarter. Trent Thompson could not be coming in at a better time.
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:27 pm to GoldenDawg
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We are pretty thin at RB as well. Sure, you can list a lot of talented names, including Michel and Marshall. But they don't help when sitting on the bench where they were for a good bit of the Spring, including the Spring game. We are one injury to Chubb away from starting Turman, who has had his own injury issues. After that we've got Douglas, after that we got nuttin'. Seeing as we don't have a recognized freshman stud RB coming in this Fall, we could have problems here
Michel and Marshall should be good to go for the regular season, which renders the rest of your post a little silly.
On top of the three 5 stars, proven backup in Douglas, and potential starter in Turman...you want a stud freshman in there as well? Look, I want to have twenty 5 star running backs on the roster, but we are pretty well set up right now. Marshall was limited in spring as more of a precaution. Michel's issues are not related to his knees/ankles/hamstrings, so once his collarbone fully heals he should be ready. I'm on the flip side - thankfully, we have excess depth so we can ease those guys back into the rotation.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:33 pm to ATLdawg25
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Michel and Marshall should be good to go for the regular season, which renders the rest of your post a little silly.
Like last season? Michel and Marshall were ready to go last year at this time as well, if I recall correctly. So was Gurley. We ended up losing all three of them for large chunks of the season. Turman was hurt all year, so he didn't get to play at all. This year, Michel and Marshall are known to be injury prone, Turman is a question mark, and Gurley is with the Rams.
So heck yeah I would have liked to see a superstar frosh RB come in. Recent history suggests we might could use one.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:36 pm to GoldenDawg
Just in terms of priorities, RB is at the bottom. I would rather get 3 more quality wide receivers before getting another RB in there.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:39 pm to GoldenDawg
I mean yeah, RBs 1-4 could all get hurt and UGA would have a RB problem. That applies to every college football team ever.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:43 pm to ATLdawg25
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Just in terms of priorities, RB is at the bottom. I would rather get 3 more quality wide receivers before getting another RB in there.
WR is the top of my priority list, but RB is not at the bottom.
I'd say OLB, TE, DE, FB, and maybe even the OL are lower priorities than RB.
Hey, I appreciate the optimism about Michel and Marshall, and I hope you're right. But, objectively, there are some real reasons for concern. If they had both survived the Spring unscathed and played in the G Day game, I'd be right with you. But neither of them did. Makes me a bit nervous. Fortunately, the most important player keeps rumbling like a tank and getting even better as he works on his receiving and pass blocking.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:44 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I mean yeah, RBs 1-4 could all get hurt and UGA would have a RB problem. That applies to every college football team ever.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:45 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I mean yeah, RBs 1-4 could all get hurt and UGA would have a RB problem. That applies to every college football team ever.
The problem here, though, is that RBs 2 and 3 are currently hurt and have shown a tendency toward injury.
If they were all healthy, right now, I'd agree with you. But right now we are down to RBs 1, 4, and 5.
Fortunately, RB #1 is #1 in the SEC.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:50 pm to GoldenDawg
Fortunately there's almost 5 full months between the spring game and week 1. Neither Marshall nor Michel's injuries were serious. Marshall could have played, but was held out because there's no point in letting a veteran player play in the spring game if he's anything less than 100%. He practiced all spring.
Point is, it's unreasonable to expect UGA to be in a better position talent and depth-wise than they are currently. Top recruits don't like being 5th string.
Point is, it's unreasonable to expect UGA to be in a better position talent and depth-wise than they are currently. Top recruits don't like being 5th string.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:51 pm to GoldenDawg
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- We are wafer thin at WR. This may be the weakest group at WR we've had in awhile. Our best is Malcolm Mitchell who has a history of injuries and took himself out of the Spring game late with a shoulder issue. Our 2nd best WR appears to be McKenzie who has difficulty catching the ball at times and pulled his hamstring early and was gone for the rest of the game. 3rd would be JSW who is coming back from an injury and seemed to be pulling up just a bit in this game. After that .... .
Excellent overall analysis. My only rebuttal is regarding WR. I agree we were thin in the Spring but we have some very talented freshmen coming in that IMO will see a lot of playing time and will make a very large impact
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:52 pm to ATLdawg25
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Bored.
Only 93 days left
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:57 pm to Crowknowsbest
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Fortunately there's almost 5 full months between the spring game and week 1. Neither Marshall nor Michel's injuries were serious. Marshall could have played, but was held out because there's no point in letting a veteran player play in the spring game if he's anything less than 100%. He practiced all spring.
Point is, it's unreasonable to expect UGA to be in a better position talent and depth-wise than they are currently. Top recruits don't like being 5th string.
We nabbed Michel and Chubb in the same class with Gurley and Marshall already in Athens. Even so, by the Missouri game we were down to Chubb and Douglas.
We have even less depth this year with Gurley gone. I love Marshall, but I am simply not counting on him at all at this point. Hopefully I am horribly wrong. As to Michel, if he stays healthy we will have the most dynamic running back duo in the nation, imvho.
So hopefully we'll have better luck this season with our RBs. I like Turman a lot as well. I can see him really punishing a tired defense late in the game (kind of like he did with his 52 yarder in the Spring game). I'm just very nervous about Michel and (especially) Marshall staying healthy.
Again, hope to heck I'm wrong.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 2:59 pm to Hobnail
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I agree we were thin in the Spring but we have some very talented freshmen coming in that IMO will see a lot of playing time and will make a very large impact
This. It's all there for the newcomers to make a real impact next season. Hopefully they will step up to it.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:01 pm to GoldenDawg
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We nabbed Michel and Chubb in the same class with Gurley and Marshall already in Athens. Even so, by the Missouri game we were down to Chubb and Douglas.
That's not typical. They were also coming in as 3 and 4 (arguably 2 and 3) behind 2 draft eligible juniors. That's a lot different than coming in behind 2 sophomores, a RS Jr, and battling with a RS So for 4th in the rotation.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:02 pm to Hobnail
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I agree we were thin in the Spring but we have some very talented freshmen coming in that IMO will see a lot of playing time and will make a very large impact
Good point. Obviously Godwin will add to the mix, but I like Stanley as well.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:17 pm to GoldenDawg
If, as most on here will tell you, Gurley was not injury prone...then how can you call Marshall injury prone. He took a direct shot to the knee which tore ligaments. He tried to come back too soon and re-injured the knee and ankle. Otherwise, what injuries has he had? I don't think either of those 2 are/were injury prone. The injuries they suffered were unavoidable under the circumstances.
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Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:40 pm to GeorgiaBoy
It's almost as though if you could combine the talents of the three QBs then we would have a solid choice.
Ramsey's arm, Bauta's decision making, Parks mobility?
Ramsey has a fantastic arm. There is zero debating that. But that arm gives him a false sense of trust. Remember when Stafford thought he could get away with any throw b/c his arm was so good. Yet, would get picked off?
Just go back and watch Belk bowl when Mason went out. If he's going to be the guy (which I think he will) I hope he can limit the amount of times he tries to force his throws.
Ramsey's arm, Bauta's decision making, Parks mobility?
Ramsey has a fantastic arm. There is zero debating that. But that arm gives him a false sense of trust. Remember when Stafford thought he could get away with any throw b/c his arm was so good. Yet, would get picked off?
Just go back and watch Belk bowl when Mason went out. If he's going to be the guy (which I think he will) I hope he can limit the amount of times he tries to force his throws.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:44 pm to TallyDawg
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It's almost as though if you could combine the talents of the three QBs then we would have a solid choice.
well you can't and you can't erase a player's injury history or guarentee any new ones or give up on them just because they got injured...onward, my dawgs
Posted on 6/4/15 at 3:48 pm to TallyDawg
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If he's going to be the guy (which I think he will) I hope he can limit the amount of times he tries to force his throws.
Sometimes you see throws in hindsight and realize they were bad. Ramsey threw at least 3 against Louisville that were so god-awful that you didn't need replay.
Posted on 6/4/15 at 6:16 pm to GoldenDawg
In addition to Godwin and Stanley, add Chigbu to the wide receiver mix.
I think we are just fine at receiver. Not stellar, but not shite either.
And don't forget Tramel Terry came in as a WR, if we start getting thin, he could move to that side of the ball too.
If you go up and down the WR roster, we've got a decent two-deep. And as you mentioned, plenty of TE talent to supplement it as well.
RB situation is also fantastic, remember McKenzie has also taken some handoffs in the past. Quayvon could also move back to a ball carrier.
I wouldn't trade our RB situation with any other team in college football.
Front 7 on defense is nasty. I also wouldn't trade our front 7 with any other team in college football.
I fear for QB play and defensive secondary performance.
Basically, same concerns as last year at this time.
No matter who the QB is, he's going to have a learning curve and it's going to drive us crazy. We can't expect another Hutson Mason performance on TD to turnovers, that's just not realistic, and we aren't that lucky.
I think we are just fine at receiver. Not stellar, but not shite either.
And don't forget Tramel Terry came in as a WR, if we start getting thin, he could move to that side of the ball too.
If you go up and down the WR roster, we've got a decent two-deep. And as you mentioned, plenty of TE talent to supplement it as well.
RB situation is also fantastic, remember McKenzie has also taken some handoffs in the past. Quayvon could also move back to a ball carrier.
I wouldn't trade our RB situation with any other team in college football.
Front 7 on defense is nasty. I also wouldn't trade our front 7 with any other team in college football.
I fear for QB play and defensive secondary performance.
Basically, same concerns as last year at this time.
No matter who the QB is, he's going to have a learning curve and it's going to drive us crazy. We can't expect another Hutson Mason performance on TD to turnovers, that's just not realistic, and we aren't that lucky.
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